Nebraska ! The Best Ever?

[Deleted]

I wasn't "talking" to "you" "specifically". Also, I would have prefaced my comment with "Gorf, you dumb bleep..."

Regardless, I don't think the fact it was Barbie's first final appearance had a lot to do with it. And, no, we wouldn't consider her a freshman.

[baywatcher]

As for Barboza "choking" the first time vs. Nebraska, they played in the AVCA tournament and it was the second match of the season for both teams, or at least for Stanford. Both teams played like it was only the second match of the season, with plenty of mistakes and errant timing on both sides of the net. Better than the night before, but give everybody a break here, on both sides. Didn't see the championship match, and too distressed to watch a replay, so no comment on that. Would be interesting to see Pavan and Klineman hit against each other for a few rotations this year.

[brybry2]

I wouldn't say that Barboza choked against Nebraska in the Finals. The Husker block did a good job against her and she was pretty ineffective. But I don't recall if she made a ton of hitting errors or just couldn't put the ball away.
As for Larson in 2005 Final, her hitting was an offensive disaster. Didn't she only rack up one kill? And she missed all her serves.

[huskervbfan]

brybry2 said:

I wouldn't say that Barboza choked against Nebraska in the Finals. The Husker block did a good job against her and she was pretty ineffective. But I don't recall if she made a ton of hitting errors or just couldn't put the ball away.
As for Larson in 2005 Final, her hitting was an offensive disaster. Didn't she only rack up one kill? And she missed all her serves.

I would agree with most of this except Larson didn't miss all of her serves. However many of the ones she did miss were pretty spectacular misses. That said, she more than made up for it in the 2006 Final.

[HOLIDAY]

brybry2 said:

I wouldn't say that Barboza choked against Nebraska in the Finals. The Husker block did a good job against her and she was pretty ineffective. But I don't recall if she made a ton of hitting errors or just couldn't put the ball away.
As for Larson in 2005 Final, her hitting was an offensive disaster. Didn't she only rack up one kill? And she missed all her serves.

brybry2,, could you be more obvious who you favor? Barboza didn't choke yet Larson did? HELLO !!! The truth is that Larson and Barboza are the do alls on their teams. Great passers, servers, and terminators. I don't think they are in the same league as a Houghtelling or Pavan for strictly net dominance, but their overall game have to be compared to the best that have played the game.

[OverAndUnder]

brybry2 said:

I wouldn't say that Barboza choked against Nebraska in the Finals. The Husker block did a good job against her and she was pretty ineffective. But I don't recall if she made a ton of hitting errors or just couldn't put the ball away.

Why trust to recall anyway? Let's look at the actual results:

   Stanford               |     ATTACK      |SET| SERVE |SRV|DEF|  BLOCK |GEN
## Name                 GP|  K   E  TA   PCT|  A| SA  SE| RE|DIG|BS BA BE|BHE
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1  Barboza, Cynthia....  4| 12   8  40  .100|  1|  0   3|  1|  7| 0  3  0|  0

Looks to me like a combination of both the things you couldn't recall -- only a few more kills than errors, and a lot of attempts that were dug or blocked back into play.

[huskervbfan]

overandunder said:

brybry2 said:

I wouldn't say that Barboza choked against Nebraska in the Finals. The Husker block did a good job against her and she was pretty ineffective. But I don't recall if she made a ton of hitting errors or just couldn't put the ball away.

Why trust to recall anyway? Let's look at the actual results:

   Stanford               |     ATTACK      |SET| SERVE |SRV|DEF|  BLOCK |GEN
## Name                 GP|  K   E  TA   PCT|  A| SA  SE| RE|DIG|BS BA BE|BHE
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1  Barboza, Cynthia....  4| 12   8  40  .100|  1|  0   3|  1|  7| 0  3  0|  0

Looks to me like a combination of both the things you couldn't recall -- only a few more kills than errors, and a lot of attempts that were dug or blocked back into play.

To be fair, lets put up Larson's vs. Washington too:

 
   Nebraska               |     ATTACK      |SET| SERVE |SRV|DEF|  BLOCK |GEN
## Name                 GP|  K   E  TA   PCT|  A| SA  SE| RE|DIG|BS BA BE|BHE|POINTS
10 Larson, Jordan......  3|  1   5  20 -.200|  1|  1   4|  0| 12| 0  2  0|  0|   3.0

[Gorf]

If Larson had made the 20 aditional attacks Barboza took could she have gotten her attack percentage up to 0.100?

[heathen]

you guys are brutal.....makes me glad my daughter rides the bench for a no account NA-IA team.

[mikesmith]

No way... Nebraska shouldn't have won the NC last year. Had it not been for home court, and suspect officiating (3 BHE's called against the best setter in the nation), UCLA would have won another NC.

No one in Nebraska wants to admit it... But it's true. They know. How does the best setter get three BHE's called against her.

[mikesmith]

Non-Sense! That's how.

[Gorf]

mikesmith said:

No way... Nebraska shouldn't have won the NC last year. Had it not been for home court, and suspect officiating (3 BHE's called against the best setter in the nation), UCLA would have won another NC.

No one in Nebraska wants to admit it... But it's true. They know. How does the best setter get three BHE's called against her.

I guess you didn't notice any of the suspect officiating that went against the Huskers in that match?

Have you taken a look at the list of past champions that won when they also had home court advantage similar to Nebraska's (ie, in same state) or actually on their own home court?

Year	Champion	Host	HCA
1981	USC	UCLA	Same City
1982	Hawai	Pacific	None
1983	Hawai	Kentucky	None
1984	UCLA	UCLA	Own Court
1985	Pacific	Western Michigan	None
1986	Pacific	Pacific	Own Court
1987	Hawaii	Indianapolis	None
1988	Texas	Minnesota	None
1989	LBSU	Hawaii	None
1990	UCLA	Maryland	None
1991	UCLA	UCLA	Own Court
1992	Stanford	New Mexico	None
1993	LBSU	Wisconsin	None
1994	Stanford	Texas	None
1995	Nebraska	Massachusetts	None
1996	Stanford	Cleveland State	None
1997	Stanford	Washington State	Same Conference
1998	LBSU	Wisconsin	None
1999	Penn State	Hawaii	None
2000	Nebraska	Virginia Commonwealth	None
2001	Stanford	San Diego State	Same State
2002	USC	New Orleans	None
2003	USC	Dallas	None
2004	Stanford	LBSU	Same State
2005	Washington	San Antonio	None
2006	Nebraska	Omaha	Same State

Since you were referring to UCLA; two of their 3 championships were played on their own court.

[Gorf]

heathen said:

you guys are brutal.....makes me glad my daughter rides the bench for a no account NA-IA team.

Brutal?

I personally think both of the players being references in the recent posts are amazingly good and find it a pleasure to watch their matches.

Of course, being biased I tend to prefer watching my favorite teams and players.

[ESTRELLA]

gorf said:

heathen said:

you guys are brutal.....makes me glad my daughter rides the bench for a no account NA-IA team.

Brutal?

I personally think both of the players being references in the recent posts are amazingly good and find it a pleasure to watch their matches.


Of course, being biased I tend to prefer watching my favorite teams and players.

Pess,
I agree with you! Both players as well as their teams are the cream of the crop even when we spend so much time critiquing them.

Despite all the flaws we find in them wouldn't you want them on your team? Absolutely and if you say no I can only say "Liar, liar, your pants are on fire!"

ESTRELLA

[Deleted]

I think Larson/Barboza are two of the future hopes for Team USA given their overall balance in skill levels.