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Post by simplycurious on May 7, 2004 1:16:13 GMT -5
Well, when I was out there he was trying to make the WUG team (hadn't hit the college scene yet). I'm not sure how he's looking these days, but back then there was definitely 'promise' in this young man's future. Plus, if Doug says he has the tools (potentially), then that's good enough for me - he's a very wise man!
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Post by BarcelonaBob on May 7, 2004 1:19:52 GMT -5
The men's coaching community in the U.S. has a tendency to bestow "golden child" status to some athletes and not to others.
Reid Priddy is a prime example of a terrific athlete that the Beal braintrust totally ignored for many years until they saw him have a breakout year as a senior at LMU. Hello? Earth to Doug Beal? Priddy was good way before that!
At least when Sturm was the National Team coach, he gave everybody a chance. Too bad he only had over-hyped, AVCA-award-toting, busts like Nygaard, Lambert, Landry ("lemme hit everything out of bounds"), and Ball to work with. Oh wait, Ball is still around. Bummer.
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Post by simplycurious on May 7, 2004 1:27:30 GMT -5
The men's coaching community in the U.S. has a tendency to bestow "golden child" status to some athletes and not to others. Reid Priddy is a prime example of a terrific athlete that the Beal braintrust totally ignored for many years until they saw him have a breakout year as a senior at LMU. Hello? Earth to Doug Beal? Priddy was good way before that! Well, I can't comment on that because I wasn't aware of it. All I can say is that when I was there, Reid was 'da man (and I still think very highly of him - he's a great guy, not to mention his physical talents). Well, I'm a big Fred-fan, so I don't really know how to take your comments. It's true (and sad) that the men's team really hasn't had any significant success since the mid-80's. I know there's a 'movement' to bring them back to SoCal to train and they're constantly talking about the whole 'altitude-thing' (in terms of their woes). Still, it's hard to place all of their lack-of-success on this factor, don't you think!? Ok, it's late...I'm prattling on...gonna get some sleep and try again tomorrow - oops, today! Nite BB
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Post by BarcelonaBob on May 7, 2004 1:28:15 GMT -5
Well, when I was out there he was trying to make the WUG team (hadn't hit the college scene yet). I'm not sure how he's looking these days, but back then there was definitely 'promise' in this young man's future. Plus, if Doug says he has the tools (potentially), then that's good enough for me - he's a very wise man! No he isn't. He's drawing a huge salary from USAV for stuff he did 20 years ago. Ever listen to him speak? He's better than Ritalin for kids with ADD, he'll put anyone to sleep. Sounds like the teacher from those Charlie Brown cartoons - "Blah, blah, blah...blah blah". Now Toshi, there's a guy that can actually coach.
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Post by midwestfan on May 7, 2004 1:28:23 GMT -5
I thought this was an interesting match. LBS played ok but I think they are going to have to play better in the next match. IMO there were times when they were really sloppy.
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Post by ElVolloLoco on May 7, 2004 1:30:07 GMT -5
The men's coaching community in the U.S. has a tendency to bestow "golden child" status to some athletes and not to others. Reid Priddy is a prime example of a terrific athlete that the Beal braintrust totally ignored for many years until they saw him have a breakout year as a senior at LMU. Hello? Earth to Doug Beal? Priddy was good way before that! At least when Sturm was the National Team coach, he gave everybody a chance. Too bad he only had over-hyped, AVCA-award-toting, busts like Nygaard, Lambert, Landry ("lemme hit everything out of bounds"), and Ball to work with. Oh wait, Ball is still around. Bummer. Here's a note to Bob - you sound like a 5'11" clown who played middle for Bakersfield and who now aspires to the level of JV assistant coach for Needles Senior High. You have never played the high level game and fool no one on this board. By the way, tell us if you think that Kowal would play above #3 middle at Long Beach. This olympic coach has her doubts.
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Post by BarcelonaBob on May 7, 2004 1:31:10 GMT -5
Well, I'm a big Fred-fan, so I don't really know how to take your comments. [/i][/quote] As am I. Sturm is a nice guy and a class act, put into a bad situation in his years with the National Team.
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Post by simplycurious on May 7, 2004 1:31:59 GMT -5
No he isn't. He's drawing a huge salary from USAV for stuff he did 20 years ago. Ever listen to him speak? He's better than Ritalin for kids with ADD, he'll put anyone to sleep. Sounds like the teacher from those Charlie Brown cartoons - "Blah, blah, blah...blah blah". Now Toshi, there's a guy that can actually coach. Well, I have a lot of respect for Toshi and he's definitely made tremendous strides with the Women's Team. I think you have to spend some time around Doug to truly appreciate the way he "thinks outside the box". I admit he's a little 'tough to get to know' and can be a bit 'imtimidating' initially....I still think he has a lot to offer.
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Post by BarcelonaBob on May 7, 2004 1:32:44 GMT -5
Here's a note to Bob - you sound like a 5'11" clown who played middle for Bakersfield and who now aspires to the level of JV assistant coach for Needles Senior High. You have never played the high level game and fool no one on this board. By the way, tell us if you think that Kowal would play above #3 middle at Long Beach. This olympic coach has her doubts. Sorry, hon. Synchronized swimming should have never been counted as an Olympic Sport. Oh wait, you're rhythmic gymnastics, right? EDIT: I did try playing one match with those big red clown shoes, but it was difficult to do a crossover move with them on. You know, us 5'11" middles have to be really good with our footwork to close the seam. LOL. P.S. You wouldn't happen to have the AD's number from Needles Senior High, would you? It will be a commute for me, but I hear their JV has some good athletes coming up from the frosh team.
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Post by BarcelonaBob on May 7, 2004 1:34:19 GMT -5
Well, I have a lot of respect for Toshi and he's definitely made tremendous strides with the Women's Team. I think you have to spend some time around Doug to truly appreciate the way he "thinks outside the box". I admit he's a little 'tough to get to know' and can be a bit 'imtimidating' initially....I still think he has a lot to offer. Beal doesn't think outside the box. He's been saying the same schpeel for years now. And the ideas he gets credit for he ripped off from Neville and Crabbe anyway. Who do you think actually came up with the idea for wash drills?
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Post by midwestfan on May 7, 2004 1:38:19 GMT -5
Mr. Wash?
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Post by barcelonasucks on May 7, 2004 1:47:42 GMT -5
barcelonabob must be the greatest volleyball player of all time, i am convinced he is Karch.... i have never heard you say a single good thing about anyone. must be nice living in a fantasy world. you actually think it is a bad thing having lloy ball on our national team, that is a huge tribute to your ignorance. congratulations bob.
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Post by BarcelonaBob on May 7, 2004 1:50:47 GMT -5
barcelonabob must be the greatest volleyball player of all time, i am convinced he is Karch.... i have never heard you say a single good thing about anyone. must be nice living in a fantasy world. you actually think it is a bad thing having lloy ball on our national team, that is a huge tribute to your ignorance. congratulations bob. 9th in Atlanta, 11th in Sydney. I rest my case. Let me go further back - IPFW gets controversial at-large bid over Stanford in '94 to play in the Final Four they are hosting. They are in the biggest tournament of their program's history, and Ball breaks finger playing pickup basketball 3 days before the semifinal. Plays outside hitter instead. IPFW embarasses itself in the tournament. I got more, just lemme know.
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Post by midwestfan on May 7, 2004 1:55:23 GMT -5
The Ball thing was a long time ago, let it go! Do you think that maybe he's changed and matured a bit since he's now 30 something? That was 10 years ago for crying out loud!
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Post by barcelonasucks on May 7, 2004 1:55:43 GMT -5
gee bob, you sure are good with stats... so what school were you the student asst. manager for??? drop the attitude and pay some respect where it is due... lloy is one of the top setters in the world. and lets think about it, you just brought up a story from how many years ago??? he was in college... yes you sure do know your volleyball, congrats. but he is still yet to be beat out by anyone in the states. and if you are still criticizing people about tonights game, my question is what would you know about hte pressure of playing in a final four match?
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