For Kerry or Against Bush?

[Barefoot In Kailua]

TheSantaBarbarian said:

flip flopping:

I will never commit US troops without a firm exit strategy.

I will never have US troops under the command of a foreign government. (Our troops are waiting for the Iraqis to tell us when to invade Fahalla.)

There are WMD's. There aren't WMDs

Coward:

Who volunteered for active duty under fire and who was AWOL for the national guard where he joined to AVOID active duty.

I could go on, but why bother.

Keep on bleating BIK.

Keep whining barbarian.

[Gorf]

Let's see, 8 of Clinton's administration we had a gain of 27 million jobs and a budgetary surplus (though not an actually surplus since it was still marginally less than the interest paid on the national debt.)

Four years under Bush, we've had record level deficits and likely 500,000 - 1,000,000 jobs lost.

For the current fiscal year with GWB's record level $400+ billion deficit combine with the $320+ billion that will be paid on interest to the national debt means the national debt with grow by close to $800 billion. Four more years under Bush and the national debt will be increasing by upwards of $1 trillion per year.

The national debt has already grown by something like $1.7 trillion under GWB in his first 3 fiscal years and by close to $2.5 trillion after his 4th fiscal year. Add $3 - $4 trillion more if he is elected for a second term and the national debt will be closing in on $12 trillion.


We've had multiple tax cuts under GWB.

The first of which was supposed to be to returning the surplus to the people. Since there really wasn't a surplus (because of the interest paid on the national debt) that was simply the restarting of the decifit level spending that already failed under Reagan.

Since even the budgetary surplus was long gone by the time of the most recent tax cut the GWB administration called it the "job stimulus" tax cut. Promising it would cause 300,000+ jobs to be created per month. In only 2 of the 14 months since the tax cut have 300,000 (or more) jobs been created. In 10 of those 14 months they were off by over 200,000 jobs compared to their promised 300,000+ jobs. In recent months the expectations of economists have repeatedly been lowered and the number of jobs created has failed to meet even those expectation.

With 20,000+ people more than expected going onto unemployment for October it looks like the unemployment percentage will be on the rise again.

GWB proclaims his devout faith, yet he lies to his constituents repeatedly.


How is he considered by anyone to be "the right man for the job"?

[Vball818]

[quote author=BiK link=board=news&thread=1099072243&start=12#0 date=1099177445]

I loathe that yellow streaked, two faced, flip flopping, coward named John Forbes Kerry.

Anyone who says they are voting for Kerry and not against Bush is lying through their fingers, and is as dumb as a brick.[/quote]

I didn't realize how polarized this country was until I stepped forward after work, after doing the lawn, laundry, gym, surfin' the Net, CSUN vball matches to go out and actually talk to strangers to vote the past three weeks and I have never ever gotten into so much heated face-to-face debates with Bush supporters on why he should continue being our president Or that Sen Kerry is incompetent to become the leader of the U.S. I won't say anything that much differently that the Kerry supporters or Bush critics have already mentioned in here, but I will say that I cannot believe how inept the president and some of his cabinet members are. As I said before I do not dislike or disrespect the president or even HATE him like my moderate Republican, conservative Democrats or Stonewall Democrat friends. These friends of mine want to hang the bugger and his cohorts.

Enough is enough....it's time to move on.

[bigfan]

[quote author=BiK link=board=news&thread=1099072243&start=12#0 date=1099177445]

I loathe that yellow streaked, two faced, flip flopping, coward named John Forbes Kerry.

Anyone who says they are voting for Kerry and not against Bush is lying through their fingers, and is as dumb as a brick.[/quote]I am with BIK, no front runner here, George W. Bush all the way.