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Post by itsallaboutme on Sept 30, 2004 12:51:15 GMT -5
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 30, 2004 13:36:18 GMT -5
Only when Kerry speaks, Yawn.
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Post by vballmom on Sept 30, 2004 14:29:24 GMT -5
If Bush's team had allowed it to be a real debate instead of a joint appearance, it wouldn't be boring.
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Post by GatorVball on Sept 30, 2004 23:41:08 GMT -5
That was a landslide win for Kerry. Bush looked like a little kid up there, annoyed, agitated, tired, ill prepared, confused, lost. Very unpresidential. Kerry looked like the President tonight. Smooth, in control, confident. Big blow to Bush, who proved to the American people that he is a bumbling idiot who has no idea what is going on his head, much less the world.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 30, 2004 23:46:02 GMT -5
That was a landslide win for Kerry. Bush looked like a little kid up there, annoyed, agitated, tired, ill prepared, confused, lost. Very unpresidential. Kerry looked like the President tonight. Smooth, in control, confident. Big blow to Bush, who proved to the American people that he is a bumbling idiot who has no idea what is going on his head, much less the world. Lol! Well that is your perspective. We don't have long to wait to see the good Presient get re-elected.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2004 1:27:00 GMT -5
Bush's point seemed to be that once you have an idea, no matter how misguided, you need to stick with it.
The man is incapable of admitting mistakes.
The sad fact is that there is no longer a good outcome possible in Iraq. Kerry can talk all he wants about how he will get it right, but I really don't think it's possible.
If for no other reason at all--for getting us and the world into this mess--Bush needs to be voted out of office.
And the man still thinks it's Saddam "loyalists" who are directing the insurgency! At least, that's what he said...
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Oct 1, 2004 1:42:12 GMT -5
It's so good to come to Volleytalk and get the latest guidance on foreign policy....
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Post by Gorf on Oct 1, 2004 3:20:30 GMT -5
It's so good to come to Volleytalk and get the latest guidance on foreign policy.... It would be difficult for foreign policy guidance suggestions offered here to be worse than what the GWB admistration has offered to us since the PNAC clan took office after the 2000 election.
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Post by vballmom on Oct 1, 2004 7:52:56 GMT -5
Amen! Bush hasn't had to suffer through someone questioning his policies for four years. He has been in an insulated bubble the entire time. You have to sign a loyalty oath. His campaign even wrote Allawi's speech before Congress for him. Give me a break!
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Post by Gorf on Oct 1, 2004 8:57:56 GMT -5
Isn't Allawi allegedly still on the CIA payroll?
He used to coordinate car bombings in Baghdad for the CIA in efforts against Hussein.
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Post by vballmom on Oct 1, 2004 9:28:20 GMT -5
I don't know if he is still on the CIA payroll, but just like Challabi, he had very strong American Intelligence ties. Challabi was the Pentagon's man and Allawi was the CIA's. After it was revealed how Challabi misled the Pentagon about the situation in Iraq, the CIA took him out of the picture. Interesting, huh?
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Post by Gorf on Oct 1, 2004 9:42:42 GMT -5
Interesting and convenient.
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Post by Gorf on Oct 1, 2004 9:45:55 GMT -5
www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=271A link to the FactCheck.Org page that discusses the mistatements, distortions, and conveniently overlooked things from both GWB and JFK. Fact Check is an interesting site in general. I think it does a good job of digging through the rhetoric and general BS of "both sides". www.factcheck.org/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2004 11:34:23 GMT -5
It's so good to come to Volleytalk and get the latest guidance on foreign policy.... It's called rational thought. Try it some time. It's what separates us from the gerbils...
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Post by vballmom on Oct 1, 2004 11:36:52 GMT -5
My husband and I have been out canvassing and we tell everyone we talk to, to go to factcheck.org. They do a very good job.
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