Tonights debate!!!!!!

[Gorf]

"Before the debate, Bush is concerned about the lectern, he's worried about the room temperature and the lighting. Kerry is making the mistake of worrying about the issues." -- David Letterman

[Barefoot In Kailua]

I actually thought Kerry did a pretty good job but he's wrong on two accounts.

1) You CANNOT have bilateral talks with North Korea less you expose yourself to be blackmailed by Kim Jong Il further down the road.

2) American DOES NOT need the consent of the debating society known as the UN to seek to defend itself against what it views as threats to its security.

[Gorf]

Barefoot said:

1) You CANNOT have bilateral talks with North Korea less you expose yourself to be blackmailed by Kim Jong Il further down the road.

GWB's comments claimed bilateral talked between the US and NK would harm China.

China has asked the US to enter into bilateral talked with NK. The other nations involved have already been in bilateral talks with China.

BiK, do you fear that you leader(s) couldn't stand up to Jong?

2) American DOES NOT need the consent of the debating society known as the UN to seek to defend itself against what it views as threats to its security.

It does, however, generally require the consent of the UN in order to invade a member nation that has not presented itself as a threat.

GWB's clan claimed they knew exactly where Iraq had WMD's. No WMD's have been found.

GWB's clan claimed Iraq had the materials to create WMD's No such materials have been found.

GWB's clan claimed Iraq was linked to Al Qaida's attacks of the US on 9/11. No such links have been found.


Before the invasion GWB's clan claimed their intelligence agencies were great and were 100% correct. Now they claim they were misinformed by their intelligence agencies.

Parts of GWB's clan claimed it would be a quick and inexpensive war and would require fewer than 100,000 US soldiers. Even after one of their clan (Powell) disagreed saying it would take 200,000 or more US soldiers. A few days after the initial invasion Cheney commented that the Iraqi's were putting up much more of a resistance than expected. It certainly hasn't been a quick war, or an inexpensive war, and we've had well over 100,000 US soldiers in Iraq.


GWB claimed the war had been won. We've had more US casualties since GWB's declaration of victory than we had before the declaration. GWB referred to it as our war in Iraq during yesterday's debate.


GWB's clan claims to have known nothing about what happened in Abu Graib.


Whether or not GWB's clan has intentionally mislead everyone regarding the invasion - they've been caught off guard, mislead, and didn't know things often enough as the leaders of our country and show no signs up being caught off guard, misled, or more knowledgable about the things for which they're presumable in charge. They are however very adamant about being misled and not knowing anything. Those aren't signs of good leadership that can be trusted for another term in office.