Shove it

[Noname]

Barefoot said:

And what does marrying a certain person have anything to do with "one's" IQ level?


;D

You actually believe it is "one's" and not "ones"? LOL

The word "one's" isn't even in the dictionary. The word "ones" is however.

[IdahoBoy]

•¤Madonna¤• said:

You actually believe it is "one's" and not "ones"? LOL

The word "one's" isn't even in the dictionary. The word "ones" is however.

First of all.. V, is that the best you have?! Arguing the placement of an apostrophe? C'mon you're better than that!

Secondly, using "one" is a very proper way to write. Especially to a general audience, like could be found on a message forum. The use of "you" is unfortunately becoming a common inaccuracy amongst english speakers. "You" is meant to be a way to make a conversation personal. However, it is being misused as a generalizing term.

One is PERFECTLY legal in grammar to be used as a possesive (one's will, one's opinion, one's computer). I even double-checked with an English and Grammar expert before posting this.

One, when used as an indefinite pronoun, as in BiK's statement, is perfectly fine to use in the possessive.

[Noname]

IdahoBoy® said:

First of all.. V, is that the best you have?! Arguing the placement of an apostrophe? C'mon you're better than that!

Secondly, using "one" is a very proper way to write. Especially to a general audience, like could be found on a message forum. The use of "you" is unfortunately becoming a common inaccuracy amongst english speakers. "You" is meant to be a way to make a conversation personal. However, it is being misused as a generalizing term.

One is PERFECTLY legal in grammar to be used as a possesive (one's will, one's opinion, one's computer). I even double-checked with an English and Grammar expert before posting this.

One, when used as an indefinite pronoun, as in BiK's statement, is perfectly fine to use in the possessive.

The word "one's" isn't in any dictionary. The word "ones" is. I checked with quite a few online dictionaries and NONE seem to have that word "one's". Using those same dictionaries, the word "ones" does appear, with one of them using an example (Ones place).

Now go ask your "English and Grammar expert" why is there a word "its", when "it's" could very well be used in the same examples as he/she gave you.

As far as me being "V", you have an obsession with her and you wish it ( V ) was me, right?

[IdahoBoy]

•¤Madonna¤• said:

The word "one's" isn't in any dictionary.

Actually, it IS in a dictionary, in reference to Chaucer, but that's beside the point. Just because it ISN'T in a dictionary, doesn't mean it is innapropriate grammar.

Try to find any apostrophe-S posessive word in a dictionary, it ain't (not supposed to be in dictionary) gonna happen.

Now, look up how to use an indirect pronouns as a possessive. You'll find "one's" in there. It's an informal writing style, common in technical papers, and is highly preferred to minimize on generalization regarding specific details.

The word "ones" is. I checked with quite a few online dictionaries and NONE seem to have that word "one's".

dictionary.reference.com/search?q=one%27s

AKA from WWW.dictionary.com, scroll to the bottom. An obsolete adverb from Chaucer. Not as it was intended, but it's there.

Using those same dictionaries, the word "ones" does appear, with one of them using an example (Ones place).

Now go ask your "English and Grammar expert" why is there a word "its", when "it's" could very well be used in the same examples as he/she gave you.

As far as me being "V", you have an obsession with her and you wish it ( V ) was me, right?

No obsession. I am not talking about "its" or "it's," I am referring to one's. And, I don't see how its or it's would work to the same meaning in my examples.

I do know that there are a large variety of problems with apostrophes in code, which is LIKELY the cause of the omittance of apostrophes in online dictionaries.

[Noname]

IdahoBoy® said:

Actually, it IS in a dictionary, in reference to Chaucer, but that's beside the point. Just because it ISN'T in a dictionary, doesn't mean it is innapropriate grammar.

Try to find any apostrophe-S posessive word in a dictionary, it ain't (not supposed to be in dictionary) gonna happen.

Now, look up how to use an indirect pronouns as a possessive. You'll find "one's" in there. It's an informal writing style, common in technical papers, and is highly preferred to minimize on generalization regarding specific details.



dictionary.reference.com/search?q=one%27s

AKA from WWW.dictionary.com, scroll to the bottom. An obsolete adverb from Chaucer. Not as it was intended, but it's there.



No obsession. I am not talking about "its" or "it's," I am referring to one's. And, I don't see how its or it's would work to the same meaning in my examples.

I do know that there are a large variety of problems with apostrophes in code, which is LIKELY the cause of the omittance of apostrophes in online dictionaries.

Both "one" and "it" can be referred to as a person or a thing, therefore, using "its" in place of the word "ones" in your examples does work (e.g. Its computer, its opinion, and its will.).

Here's something that I found on the internet that plainly explains the difference between the two words of "it's" and "its".

It’s or Its? What’s the Difference?
by Whispersecret

Confusing “its” and “it’s” is one of the most common mistakes I see in amateur writing. I will try to explain the difference between these two words so that you’ll never again have to wonder if you used the correct one.

You might be tempted to lay all the blame for your confusion on the apostrophe, but it’s not really the apostrophe’s fault. Let me tell you a story.

Long ago the Apostrophe got a job filling in for missing letters wherever there was a contraction. A contraction is when two words are smashed together to form one word.

For example when you put “does” and “not” together, you squish out the “o” and end up with “doesn’t.”

Other examples are:

would + not = wouldn’t
they + will = they’ll
let + us = let’s
she + would = she’d
it + is OR it + has = it’s

[Noname]

IdahoBoy® said:

No obsession. I am not talking about "its" or "it's," I am referring to one's. And, I don't see how its or it's would work to the same meaning in my examples.

I do know that there are a large variety of problems with apostrophes in code, which is LIKELY the cause of the omittance of apostrophes in online dictionaries.

The "obsession" I was referring to, was you having one with "V". Do pay attention.

[sonofbarcelonabob]

•¤Madonna¤• said:

Other examples are:

would + not = wouldn’t
they + will = they’ll
let + us = let’s
she + would = she’d
it + is OR it + has = it’s

Ooh! Oooh! *raises hand*

I got one!

Check this one out:

Dumb + Ass = Dumbass


LOL.

[IdahoBoy]

•¤Madonna¤• said:

Both "one" and "it" can be referred to as a person or a thing, therefore, using "its" in place of the word "ones" in your examples does work (e.g. Its computer, its opinion, and its will.).

Here's something that I found on the internet that plainly explains the difference between the two words of "it's" and "its".

It’s or Its? What’s the Difference?
by Whispersecret

Confusing “its” and “it’s” is one of the most common mistakes I see in amateur writing. I will try to explain the difference between these two words so that you’ll never again have to wonder if you used the correct one.

You might be tempted to lay all the blame for your confusion on the apostrophe, but it’s not really the apostrophe’s fault. Let me tell you a story.

Long ago the Apostrophe got a job filling in for missing letters wherever there was a contraction. A contraction is when two words are smashed together to form one word.

For example when you put “does” and “not” together, you squish out the “o” and end up with “doesn’t.”

Other examples are:

would + not = wouldn’t
they + will = they’ll
let + us = let’s
she + would = she’d
it + is OR it + has = it’s

Now you're just trying to confuse yourself.

Sure, in the quick and dirty example I gave showing the possessive of "one," you could use "it."

But, "it" won't work in the same context to which you were referring to having BiK misuse it, "one."

His sentence was: And what does marrying a certain person have anything to do with "one's" IQ level.

Actually, in the case of Madonna, "it" just very well might work... especially after an affair with Dennis Rodman. But, for the rest of humanity, it doesn't work.

How does "And what does marrying a certain person have anything to do with "it's" IQ level?"

The problem lies within the type of objects "It" and "one" are.

"it" is a 'personal pronoun (third person)' while, "one is an 'indirect pronoun.' Were you sleeping in 8th grade when you had to learn all of these?

Perhaps you should do some more research... here's a link to get you started, a whole page dedicated to the usage of "one:"
webster.commnet.edu/grammar/one.htm

Pay special attention to: One's Reflexive and Possessive Forms. You'll find it about half way down the page.

[IdahoBoy]

•¤Madonna¤• said:

The "obsession" I was referring to, was you having one with "V". Do pay attention.

Yeah, I do pay attention. I meant there to be a paragraph break, but apparently I overcorrected the spacing of the previous paragraph on an edit.

Lo siento. However, I don't have to be correct, to be right.

There was never an obsession with "V", nor "Jewel," nor "UltraSparC." Maybe a small one with IslandGirl, but she ruined that a long time ago.

[Noname]

IdahoBoy® said:

Now you're just trying to confuse yourself.

Sure, in the quick and dirty example I gave showing the possessive of "one," you could use "it."

But, "it" won't work in the same context to which you were referring to having BiK misuse it, "one."

You truly should pay more attention, since the examples I was referring to were the ones YOU gave NOT BiK.

[Noname]

IdahoBoy® said:

There was never an obsession with "V", nor "Jewel," nor "UltraSparC." Maybe a small one with IslandGirl, but she ruined that a long time ago.

If it makes you feel better about yourself, then go right ahead in thinking I am "V".

[IdahoBoy]

•¤Madonna¤• said:

Now go ask your "English and Grammar expert" why is there a word "its", when "it's" could very well be used in the same examples as he/she gave you.

He/She did not give me any examples. They explained the situation to reaffirm it to me.

The quick and dirty examples were only to show the possessive form of one having an apostrophe.

If you were paying attention, you'd have read: One is PERFECTLY legal in grammar to be used as a possesive (one's will, one's opinion, one's computer).

The argument was that "one's" wasn't a word... I'm not sure why you got stuck on "it" and "it's."

[IdahoBoy]

•¤Madonna¤• said:

If it makes you feel better about yourself, then go right ahead in thinking I am "V".

I feel pretty darned good about myself. Regardless of who I think V is or isn't.

[Barefoot In Kailua]

•¤Madonna¤• said:

You actually believe it is "one's" and not "ones"? LOL

The word "one's" isn't even in the dictionary. The word "ones" is however.

Let's see what the experts say...........


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•¤Madonna¤• said:

If it makes you feel better about yourself, then go right ahead in thinking I am "V".

You are the poster once known as V. You were cool once, now you're just irritating. I'm irritating too so I forgive you.