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Post by samba on Oct 12, 2008 10:47:27 GMT -5
Penn State - awesome deserves all the credit - probably is the best team on the court for a long time Minn - one play told it all. Middle Schmidt was late for a block (as usual) and as the RS was hitting - she turned her head away showing fear of the hit. Similar happened for Pam and Hailey (sp?). Minnesota's offense basically made it easy for Penn St to block. Three options; set the OH, RS and slide - not difficult to defend. Those very very few other plays were effective. Also, the substitution of the ineffective players did not happen. Perhaps the coaches given up too. Tan and Dieter's offense was a positive to take away.
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Post by whispers on Oct 12, 2008 12:11:48 GMT -5
PSU, what an awesome display of ability. Minn. was out classed. But I think some things could have been tried. Minn. had nil blocking, try changes. If you have a 6' 2'' senior sitting on the bench & you don't use her? What are the reasons. Ebert himsself said what a good blocker she is. Then why use 5'8 or 5'10 in your front row. If what your doing dose'nt work try other things. His logic escapes me, plus in watching practice Katy V is a decent hitter. These changes would not change the out come of the game but the change might have given more insight. Everyone seems to agree Kyla has arm problems, but they continue to use her .
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Post by Serendipity on Oct 12, 2008 12:27:48 GMT -5
Wow. I just got done watching that match. What can you say about Penn State? They throttled the team that swept the co-leader of the Pac 10. I guess PSU is just that good - they make other good teams look silly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 12:33:10 GMT -5
1) Minnesota's blocking wasn't as bad as the stats. PSU covered at least 5, probably more, blocks that would have been terminal against most other teams (which doesn't seem fair).
2) I don't know why KV isn't being used, but I'm guessing there's a reason. There's a lot of smart people coaching that team.
3) They use Kyla because her block is so valuable -- and because she's still relatively effective against the rest of the Big 10. I do wonder, however, if they might start picking and choosing which match of the weekend she plays. I also wonder how badly she's hurt. Is itgoing to get better? Did she return too soon?
4) Seems like if you're late closing the block, you _should_ be a little afraid about the hit.
I am looking forward to seeing Filho play. Her comments in the latest GD newsletter were very interesting. Seems like a very mature, thoughtful individual. I do hope she and Blatt get some match experience this year. But the 25-point games and limited subs makes that more difficult than it should be. Not to mention the improvement of Indiana and Iowa.
And, of course, PSU isn't the team against whom you want to experiment/tinker.
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Post by abcd098 on Oct 12, 2008 12:47:27 GMT -5
After watching the match, I think Penn State is going to be undefeated this season.
The Nebraska/Missouri match is on TV right now and Penn State looks head and shoulders above Nebraska. Penn State is scary good.
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Post by whispers on Oct 12, 2008 13:33:26 GMT -5
Ruff, I don't agree with you on some of your comments. But i will only address one of them. When you have lost 2 sets, & are losing the third by 6 or 7 points, I don't consider this experamenting to try another player to be experamenting. I think this is evaluating a situation a where you have nothing to loose and everything to gain.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Oct 12, 2008 14:09:04 GMT -5
Thanks, Ruffda, for posting the box score. Sounds like PSU's performance was truly a sight to behold. They dominated this match the same way they've dominated the rest of their 2008 schedule. I wish we could have seen them on a national TV network by now. I tried the feed from the Hawai'i tournament but there was too much latency to see anything. I've circled October 26th on my calendar so I can see their Wisconsin match on ESPN2. No doubt it will be a blowout, but it's always exciting to see a powerful team play.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 14:19:31 GMT -5
Ruff, I don't agree with you on some of your comments. But i will only address one of them. When you have lost 2 sets, & are losing the third by 6 or 7 points, I don't consider this experamenting to try another player to be experamenting. I think this is evaluating a situation a where you have nothing to loose and everything to gain. My problem with that is twofold: 1) you're throwing in the towel and 2) you're throwing your frosh to the ... uh ... lions. Doesn't seem like the best way to bring them along slowly and build their confidence. I'd be interested to hear what else you don't agree with. It really does sound like you have a problem with the coaching staff -- and have since at least 2005.
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Post by ladeda on Oct 12, 2008 14:26:51 GMT -5
Having seen both of these teams in person there is no shame in losing to a team like Penn State blaming coaches or players isn't necessary,Penn State is all that and more right now. Congratulate them move on because the NCAA tournament is the real goal and I'm expecting both will be there.
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Post by Serendipity on Oct 12, 2008 14:42:43 GMT -5
I wish we could have seen them on a national TV network by now. I tried the feed from the Hawai'i tournament but there was too much latency to see anything. I've circled October 26th on my calendar so I can see their Wisconsin match on ESPN2. No doubt it will be a blowout, but it's always exciting to see a powerful team play. The Big Ten Network is a national network.
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Post by whispers on Oct 12, 2008 15:28:39 GMT -5
And I feel that you never say a word about the coachingthe coaching staff. I wonder why.. You are losing 2 sets & it would take a miracle to win the 3rd set against Penn. &you think it would it would be a mistake to try something new, Most of the time I agree with thoughts on the game.Not this time. Kyla is hurt, why play her against Indiana, save her for Penn or rest her for a couple of games, it's along season to the NCAA tournament
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 17:50:39 GMT -5
Oh, please. I asked a simple question. If he has a problem, he should post it, rather than all this cryptic stuff.
I find it funny that he said the same thing about Kyla and Indiana that I did.
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Post by ugopher on Oct 12, 2008 17:58:18 GMT -5
Ruff, I don't agree with you on some of your comments. But i will only address one of them. When you have lost 2 sets, & are losing the third by 6 or 7 points, I don't consider this experamenting to try another player to be experamenting. I think this is evaluating a situation a where you have nothing to loose and everything to gain. My problem with that is twofold: 1) you're throwing in the towel and 2) you're throwing your frosh to the ... uh ... lions. Doesn't seem like the best way to bring them along slowly and build their confidence. I agree. If the coaching staff had put in players who normally don't play the comments would have been that MN gave up. You play your best in that situation and if isn't good enough, so be it. Unless you have a dominent freshman I think you pick your spots. Last night wasn't one of them.
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Post by huskervbfan on Oct 12, 2008 18:58:27 GMT -5
I wish we could have seen them on a national TV network by now. I tried the feed from the Hawai'i tournament but there was too much latency to see anything. I've circled October 26th on my calendar so I can see their Wisconsin match on ESPN2. No doubt it will be a blowout, but it's always exciting to see a powerful team play. The Big Ten Network is a national network. I didn't know that. Does any one know if it shows up on Time Warner in Lincoln? I've never noticed it there but haven't looked previously either.
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Post by Keystonekid on Oct 12, 2008 19:19:15 GMT -5
Coaches are in the gym evaluating there players everyday. If you have a player on the floor who is struggling, but you know the player who could go in for her, will not perform better why would you put her in? The idea of subbing is to put in a player who will give you a greater chance to win, they don't have that player.
Also, when you watch the match, would anyone in there right mind think that coaches decisions was going to impact that match. Minnesota is a great team, with great talent, but in reality may not have a single player who may start at PSU. (maybe Tan, maybe one of their middles could beat out Wilson) When you're outplayed at every position, a tactical change ain't gonna matter. Mike Hebert is as good at evaluating and utilizing players as anyone in college volleyball. If he had a legitimate option or adjustment, you would have seen it. He probably was also sending a message to his players, "you're my guy, i'm sticking with you" You can lose the battle, but win a players confidence.
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