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Post by asuvolley on Jul 20, 2009 11:45:12 GMT -5
Here's an update....
Did my session on last Thursday, same as previous days.
Fridays session was essentially the same, but we added jumping into the protocol.
SO....As of now, the pain from my "tip-toe" squat is completely gone. As far as jumping, I have avoided it, minus one jump serve at camp last friday that hurt a good amount.
I missed my appointment this morning for treatment because I am sick.
5 sessions left...
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Post by asuvolley on Jul 21, 2009 11:29:42 GMT -5
7 Sessions down, 3 to go... This morning did my session again, today it was pulsed on and off. When the electricity was on, I would do jumps and squats, while it was off I rested. I played soccer last night(non-competitive) and for the first time in 8 months I was able to run without knee pain No stretching, no braces, no warming up, my knee just worked! I am playing volleyball tonight, just as libero, so we'll see how those movements feel. I am thinking about buying a machine...only $15K
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Post by asuvolley on Jul 22, 2009 13:14:49 GMT -5
Knee pain started in my mid 20's. Now approaching 40 I have had to retire from playing. Now I golf, fish, bike, and actually can run. People develop knee pain because of severe muscle imbalances in the legs, specifically the glutes and hip flexors. These imbalances eventually cause problems in the knees. Most people, including volleyball players also have incorrect form. If lifting (such as squatting) incorrectly, as most people do, it can cause serious damage. Try standing on one foot and then squatting. If this causes serious pain/and/or it is impossible, then you likely have had bad form your whole career. Try standing very close to wall (six inches) and squatting without your knees touching the wall. If you can't do this, you have muscle imbalances or hip flexor tightness. These can be fixed, but the damage is much harder to get rid of. Even with extensive PT, the pain is still too much to play. So with regards to causes of the damage, and testing for imbalances and correct form, I would say I agree with rhinovb14. Looking back on the original cause of my case of jumper's knee was multi-faceted. And I also agree that the pain WAS too much to play. BUT, the therapy I am doing is supposed to help repair the damage. I hate golfing, fishing, biking and running. Volleyball or basketball are my sports of choice and I could play neither previous to this therapy. I could hardly walk!
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Post by asuvolley on Jul 22, 2009 13:24:12 GMT -5
UPDATE!!! 8 of 10 session down, 2 to go.
I played volleyball last night. Although the plan was to libero, the other team brought some added talent, that was home from school for the summer, so I couldn't just not block and hit.
So, yes, I jumped and blocked and ran and NO PAIN!!
My knee was pretty weak, or unstable after I was done, and my jumping ability was down 3-4 inches, but it was pain free. The therapy leaves me pretty sore and so my tired hams and quads may have been the cause of the instability. Plus, I haven't really done that much work with my legs in almost 9 months.
So the initial test I'd say is a SUCCESS!! Meaning, that the pain was alleviated and even though I have 2 sessions left, to be relieved of that much pain in less than 2 weeks is pretty impressive.
I will try and add a post every couple weeks on how my post rehab is working to keep the pain from coming back. Because it is hard to afford $800 a month for rehab.
But if 18 people want to sign up for this treatment for $800 each, I'll buy a machine and help you recover too. If the economy weren't so lame, I'd buy one and open my own shop. I'm a believer..haha
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Post by bunnywailer on Jul 22, 2009 16:06:35 GMT -5
Congrats on the rehab and recovery.
I have a kid trying out this season who says she has jumper's knee. She still thinks she can play despite the fact that she is obviously shying away from any sort of jumping (spike approach, block jump). I am probably gonna cut her, which she isn't gonna like. But as a coach, there is no way you can justify keeping an outside hitter who can't even get off the ground 6 inches on her vertical. I already have enough liberos and defensive specialists on my roster.
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Post by asuvolley on Jul 23, 2009 12:39:22 GMT -5
9 out of 10 sessions done.
Today the intensity wasn't up as high, but we did lunges rather than squats. The interesting part that I think is critical about this protocol is that rather than avoid the painful movements, we specifically do those type of exercises.
I keep thinking of all the people wearing orthotics. It seems that rather than find out why the foot is hurting or not properly functioning, they get an insert to make the foot function in the improper form, without pain.
I guess its the 'ol argument that we all take pain killers to hide the pain vs. actually fixing the problem. On that note, I haven't taken any pain killers since my first treatment. I feel like a human again!!
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Post by tigger1 on Jul 23, 2009 15:31:14 GMT -5
Jumper's knee probably develops from recurrent strain to the bone/tendon junction. Because this location is a "watershed" area for blood flow, healing is commonly slow and incomplete, leading to dysfunctional scar tissue. Microscopic specimens frequently fail to show much of any organized healing reaction. Surgery on this problem generally does two things: 1) Complete the tear and excise the scar, and 2) Stimulate the healing response (usually by drilling nearby bone.)
Ideally, this therapy might accomplish the second objective without requiring the first. Promising and encouraging, but a sample size of one, with a follow up of one week is not adequate to generalize. Please continue to post your outcome for at least 6 months.
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Post by goGopherBill on Jul 23, 2009 15:53:29 GMT -5
It would also fit into my Health care thread.
If this option couldn't be paid for..would the specialist leave the field? It's something to think about...If you are too old for a National team would you even qualify for a National plan?
I bet a VEGGIE PIZZA your specialist is against OBAMA'S PLAN. My sleep apnea study and heart doctors are all against limiting what doctors can make based upon some arbitrary number.
Like owning GM ..government can control supply..force consumption patterns and control profits.
Doctors and insurance people are afraid..
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Post by asuvolley on Jul 23, 2009 16:40:53 GMT -5
I do plan on continuing my updates for at least 1 year. I guess I'm just so excited now because I didn't really think I'd be able to be playing volleyball so soon.
I'm going to do this because I've decided that if I am able to run, walk and jump pain free for 1 year, then it was worth the $800.
If the pain comes back next month I got screwed...haha
How much and how often would you pay to relieve your pain?
Is it worth $800 a year to be fully functional? Is it worth $1600 a year? Would you pay $5000 a year to be pain free and able to do your favorite things?
Rather than all the poor people saying no, and the wealthy saying yes, lets assume your anual revenue is $75,000. (pre-tax)
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Post by goGopherBill on Jul 23, 2009 17:33:04 GMT -5
please continue to update..
You know you are rich?
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Post by asuvolley on Jul 24, 2009 13:32:29 GMT -5
Finished the last session this morning. I have all kinds of anxiety now, scared of my knee pain coming back. I have exercises to do, but nothing revolutionary like the machine.
But, like I said at the beginning, this was more or less and experiment. So let the results be what they may...
Oh yeah, I found out more on the machine today...10,000Hz, Direct Current, 500 pulses per second. It's pretty crazy!
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Jul 24, 2009 19:06:45 GMT -5
$800 is a lot better than the cortisone injection I finally had to get both times the jumper knee went chronic on me.
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Post by tigger1 on Jul 26, 2009 14:09:01 GMT -5
Injections for this problem are widely considered risky and unwise.
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Post by goGopherBill on Jul 26, 2009 15:50:39 GMT -5
2nd opinions?
Based on what's best for the patient ..not the cost vs. age argument.
American health care vs.. the REST.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Jul 28, 2009 16:25:38 GMT -5
I do plan on continuing my updates for at least 1 year. I guess I'm just so excited now because I didn't really think I'd be able to be playing volleyball so soon. I'm going to do this because I've decided that if I am able to run, walk and jump pain free for 1 year, then it was worth the $800. If the pain comes back next month I got screwed...haha How much and how often would you pay to relieve your pain? Is it worth $800 a year to be fully functional? Is it worth $1600 a year? Would you pay $5000 a year to be pain free and able to do your favorite things? Rather than all the poor people saying no, and the wealthy saying yes, lets assume your anual revenue is $75,000. (pre-tax) I would not think anything of spending 2000-4000 dollars a year for a noninvasive, fast-recovery fix to chronic sport-induced problems. I have always been an athlete. Worse than any physical pain I've felt has been the creeping incapacity of being put out to pasture. I'm not vain, but I am strong-willed. I have no interest in lipo, face lift, implants, microdermabrasion, lasik, body waxing, or teeth whitening. But I want to play sports until the day they lower me into the ground.
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