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Post by Keystonekid on Nov 30, 2009 12:04:01 GMT -5
It is my understanding that the Big 10 had the highest rpi followed by the Pac 10 and the Big 12. Having said that, they put 8 Pac 10 teams in and had to have a 6th from the B10 as clearly rpi was a HUGE factor, if not the only factor.
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Post by silversurfer on Nov 30, 2009 12:27:53 GMT -5
The real problem with the NCAA WVB tournament is the number of automatic qualifiers. Yes, Michigan State could beat the majority of them, but does that mean Michigan State should be in the tournament? No. It's a freaking travesty that many reasonably good teams will stay home while champions from the Patriot League, Ivy League and other very weak leagues will serve as nothing more than practice sessions for the likes of Penn State, Texas and Stanford. Hell, those three teams probably find their practices more challenging than their first and second round matches. So the tournament shouldn't include conference champs? Or just from a few conferences? Who makes that decision? What is it based on?
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Post by midnightblue on Nov 30, 2009 14:24:35 GMT -5
My prediction for FF: Texas, Penn State, Stanford, Washington. Penn State WILL NOT win a NC this year. Texas will and here is why: Destiny Hooker and Meghan Hodge are VERY comparable. Julian Fawcett is much better and more experience than Darcy Dorton. Fatima Balza for PSU is TERRIBLE. Alisha Glass and Ashley Engle are the two best setters in the nation in my opinion. Engle is much more of an offensive threat than Alisha, however Alisha runs a quicker offense. Blair Brown has not been playing well at all the last half of the Big Ten season (in the words of RR). I believe that Kisner for Texas is a better Libero defensively than is Alyssa D'Ericco. Last year when PSU made history, it was more of what they had that other teams didn't. This year other teams do have comparable athletes and some even better. Texas is all around the better team and is much deeper. RR has been having Blair Brown playing right side back row defense. I can't imagine he would make the mistake of keeping her there when Tampa comes around. If RR decides to sub in Kristen Carpenter I feel that the lack of experience and nerves alone of a FF would prove costly to PSU. Someone please tell me why I am wrong. (Please keep in mind that I am a Stanford fan, so no bias here).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 14:28:27 GMT -5
The one flaw: PSU's experience.
Well, there's other flaws, too, but that one's the most important.
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Post by lonewolf on Nov 30, 2009 14:54:06 GMT -5
The real problem with the NCAA WVB tournament is the number of automatic qualifiers. Yes, Michigan State could beat the majority of them, but does that mean Michigan State should be in the tournament? No. It's a freaking travesty that many reasonably good teams will stay home while champions from the Patriot League, Ivy League and other very weak leagues will serve as nothing more than practice sessions for the likes of Penn State, Texas and Stanford. Hell, those three teams probably find their practices more challenging than their first and second round matches. So the tournament shouldn't include conference champs? Or just from a few conferences? Who makes that decision? What is it based on? Good question, and I'm also a little confused by the post? You don't want Mich State in...but you also don't want some of the AQ's in. Do you want a 32 team tournament? While MSU doesn't have the best argument out there (and I think they shouldn't be in because of the losing tendency in the last half) ...there really aren't too many programs that have a much stronger argument for getting in.
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Post by brybry on Nov 30, 2009 15:26:44 GMT -5
My prediction for FF: Texas, Penn State, Stanford, Washington. Penn State WILL NOT win a NC this year. Texas will and here is why: Destiny Hooker and Meghan Hodge are VERY comparable. Julian Fawcett is much better and more experience than Darcy Dorton. Fatima Balza for PSU is TERRIBLE. Alisha Glass and Ashley Engle are the two best setters in the nation in my opinion. Engle is much more of an offensive threat than Alisha, however Alisha runs a quicker offense. Blair Brown has not been playing well at all the last half of the Big Ten season (in the words of RR). I believe that Kisner for Texas is a better Libero defensively than is Alyssa D'Ericco. Last year when PSU made history, it was more of what they had that other teams didn't. This year other teams do have comparable athletes and some even better. Texas is all around the better team and is much deeper. RR has been having Blair Brown playing right side back row defense. I can't imagine he would make the mistake of keeping her there when Tampa comes around. If RR decides to sub in Kristen Carpenter I feel that the lack of experience and nerves alone of a FF would prove costly to PSU. Someone please tell me why I am wrong. (Please keep in mind that I am a Stanford fan, so no bias here). You're not necessarily wrong, but I still give the edge to PSU. Blair Brown can be such a devastating attacker even from the backrow. That's why she's in there. That said, she has not been playing w/ great confidence this season. I definitely think Brown will need to step up her game. You have to include Arielle Wilson in your PSU-Texas comparison because she's by far the best MB on the two teams and will impact the outcome of a match. Hard to say how Dorton will play, but then again Faucette has a history of shaky play. The serve and receive battle is worth discussing too. I would think that PSU has the edge. They have some pretty good servers. Hodge and D'Errico are pretty solid on passing. Texas has good servers too. I think that their passing can be vulnerable. Kisner is awesome at passing half the court. Faucette and Yogi I have uncertainties about. Assuming the burden of 3-peating doesn't get to them, I think PSU has the mental edge. Hodge, Glass, and D'Errico are gamers. Brown might be a bit shaky. For Texas, I think Hooker and Kisner will be rock solid and will preform under pressure, but Faucette and Engle has a slight history of being fragile. I really hope we get to the see this match and that both teams bring their best game.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Nov 30, 2009 15:40:51 GMT -5
My prediction for FF: Texas, Penn State, Stanford, Washington. Penn State WILL NOT win a NC this year. Texas will and here is why: Destiny Hooker and Meghan Hodge are VERY comparable. Julian Fawcett is much better and more experience than Darcy Dorton. Fatima Balza for PSU is TERRIBLE. Alisha Glass and Ashley Engle are the two best setters in the nation in my opinion. Engle is much more of an offensive threat than Alisha, however Alisha runs a quicker offense. Blair Brown has not been playing well at all the last half of the Big Ten season (in the words of RR). I believe that Kisner for Texas is a better Libero defensively than is Alyssa D'Ericco. Last year when PSU made history, it was more of what they had that other teams didn't. This year other teams do have comparable athletes and some even better. Texas is all around the better team and is much deeper. RR has been having Blair Brown playing right side back row defense. I can't imagine he would make the mistake of keeping her there when Tampa comes around. If RR decides to sub in Kristen Carpenter I feel that the lack of experience and nerves alone of a FF would prove costly to PSU. Someone please tell me why I am wrong. (Please keep in mind that I am a Stanford fan, so no bias here). The main topic of this thread is about the selection show and the bracket itself. There are several other threads that are mainly focused on predictions for specific teams, regions, and the Final Four.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 15:43:11 GMT -5
It is my understanding that the Big 10 had the highest rpi followed by the Pac 10 and the Big 12. Having said that, they put 8 Pac 10 teams in and had to have a 6th from the B10 as clearly rpi was a HUGE factor, if not the only factor. That's hard to believe. Not impossible, but hard. I can see Texas Tech and Colorado bringing the Big 12 RPI down, but who exactly was dragging down the Pac 10's?
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 30, 2009 15:54:39 GMT -5
It is my understanding that the Big 10 had the highest rpi followed by the Pac 10 and the Big 12. Having said that, they put 8 Pac 10 teams in and had to have a 6th from the B10 as clearly rpi was a HUGE factor, if not the only factor. That's hard to believe. Not impossible, but hard. I can see Texas Tech and Colorado bringing the Big 12 RPI down, but who exactly was dragging down the Pac 10's? Recall that the Pac 10 RPI suffers from west coast bias. Not as bad as some west coast conferences, but some nonetheless.
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Post by JT on Nov 30, 2009 16:12:28 GMT -5
I disagree. Michigan State is one of the top 64 teams in the country, and therefore, should receive a bid into the tournament. Nope. There are 30-some automatic bids, and probably 20 or so of those automatica bids are for teams that are not in the top 64. As long as you take conference winners, you really need to be a top 40 or so team to make the tournament as an at-large team.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 30, 2009 16:14:16 GMT -5
I disagree. Michigan State is one of the top 64 teams in the country, and therefore, should receive a bid into the tournament. Nope. There are 30-some automatic bids, and probably 20 or so of those automatica bids are for teams that are not in the top 64. As long as you take conference winners, you really need to be a top 40 or so team to make the tournament as an at-large team. Typically, it's more like 10 - 15 that are not in the top 64 in volleyball. It's more like the top 50 or so that make the tournament.
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Post by JT on Nov 30, 2009 17:31:00 GMT -5
That many"? Okay... I stand (sit) corrected.
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Post by pennstate7188 on Nov 30, 2009 17:40:36 GMT -5
I'm going to repeat what I said last week: If I were a PSU fan (i.e., someone who could actually go watch their matches), I'd be disgusted that all I ever get to see from this Ferrari is parallel parking. What a waste. And after this weekend, that's it for Glass, Hodge, etc. I don't know what you're trying to say... it doesn't sound good though...
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Post by pennstate7188 on Nov 30, 2009 17:43:00 GMT -5
My prediction for FF: Texas, Penn State, Stanford, Washington. Penn State WILL NOT win a NC this year. Texas will and here is why: Destiny Hooker and Meghan Hodge are VERY comparable. Julian Fawcett is much better and more experience than Darcy Dorton. Fatima Balza for PSU is TERRIBLE. Alisha Glass and Ashley Engle are the two best setters in the nation in my opinion. Engle is much more of an offensive threat than Alisha, however Alisha runs a quicker offense. Blair Brown has not been playing well at all the last half of the Big Ten season (in the words of RR). I believe that Kisner for Texas is a better Libero defensively than is Alyssa D'Ericco. Last year when PSU made history, it was more of what they had that other teams didn't. This year other teams do have comparable athletes and some even better. Texas is all around the better team and is much deeper. RR has been having Blair Brown playing right side back row defense. I can't imagine he would make the mistake of keeping her there when Tampa comes around. If RR decides to sub in Kristen Carpenter I feel that the lack of experience and nerves alone of a FF would prove costly to PSU. Someone please tell me why I am wrong. (Please keep in mind that I am a Stanford fan, so no bias here). Stop posting this in so many different threads... most of it is all wrong!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 17:55:56 GMT -5
I'm going to repeat what I said last week: If I were a PSU fan (i.e., someone who could actually go watch their matches), I'd be disgusted that all I ever get to see from this Ferrari is parallel parking. What a waste. And after this weekend, that's it for Glass, Hodge, etc. I don't know what you're trying to say... it doesn't sound good though... That's a shame. I like to be understood. I'm saying PSU fans -- the ones who can see the team in person -- have every right to feel cheated by the level of competition provided by the NCAA committee. Add that to the pre-season tournaments and it's like owning a Ferrari and only getting to parallel park it. Yes, that makes sense.
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