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Post by ay2013 on Jan 12, 2010 14:40:19 GMT -5
well I didn't want to imply that the coach must sign a 40 year contract but merely that UCLA is going to look for a coach that doesn't really have any other ambitions on the plate. I still think they want to find the next Andy B.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Jan 12, 2010 14:47:13 GMT -5
Everyone loves to love Christy Johnson. However deserved that admiration is, would she really be able to work the same magic in Los Angeles as she can in the Breadbasket? She won't get nearly the same fan support, perhaps not even the same administrative support, won't be recruiting in a regional base where her name and personal ties carry a lot of weight, will be competing for top locals with the entire UC system and every other coach in the country, and will be the "rebound" coach at a program that has never known anyone else than Andy.
Granted right now she's the hot name in the profession, so this would be a great time to leverage that fame while it's still fresh. Other coaches have been in similar positions and hesitated, then a couple season-ending-injuries-to-star-players later, their moment had passed (imagine if Salvo and Anderson had stayed at Utah and taken that program to the FF; Beth could probably have walked into any job she wanted). Still, I would think Johnson would do better to keep building where she is, and keep her eye on several of those midwestern positions in the Big10 and Big12 (including the obvious one).
EDIT: I see ay2013 has already posted what I meant in my comment about this being a "rebound" hire. It's going to be hard for an academic bureaucracy not to try to just duplicate what they already had. I don't see Christy fitting inside that box.
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Post by po'okela on Jan 12, 2010 15:04:03 GMT -5
hire the head coach at mira costa HAHAH
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Post by BearClause on Jan 12, 2010 15:09:48 GMT -5
hire the head coach at mira costa HAHAH Now that's just WRONG!
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Post by silversurfer on Jan 12, 2010 15:16:49 GMT -5
Everyone loves to love Christy Johnson. However deserved that admiration is, would she really be able to work the same magic in Los Angeles as she can in the Breadbasket? She won't get nearly the same fan support, perhaps not even the same administrative support, won't be recruiting in a regional base where her name and personal ties carry a lot of weight, will be competing for top locals with the entire UC system and every other coach in the country, and will be the "rebound" coach at a program that has never known anyone else than Andy. Granted right now she's the hot name in the profession, so this would be a great time to leverage that fame while it's still fresh. Other coaches have been in similar positions and hesitated, then a couple season-ending-injuries-to-star-players later, their moment had passed. Still, I would think she'd do better to keep building where she is, and keep her eye on several of those midwestern positions in the Big10 and Big12 (including the obvious one). EDIT: I see ay2013 has already posted what I meant in my comment about this being a "rebound" hire. It's going to be hard for an academic bureaucracy not to try to just duplicate what they already had. I don't see Christy fitting inside that box.I don't see Christy and Joe moving out of the midwest.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 12, 2010 15:20:40 GMT -5
In the midwest, you can get a very good house for $150K+. In Southern California, a $150K house will get you smack dab in the middle of gangland crossfire. On the plus side, there are plenty of sun, sand, surf, tacquerias, and Korean bul-goh-gis. Yum!
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Post by azvb on Jan 12, 2010 15:21:33 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't USC hire Haley while he was the National Team Coach? How long did Jerritt stay as the interim? Was he already in the program at the time, or was he hired as an interim coach? So, it's been done before, right? I vote for Hugh. I repeat my earlier opinion - what credentials other than a slew of gold medals does Karch have? 1. The respect, admiration of every volleyball player on the planet 2. The drive, focus, will to succeed at everything he has done. 3. An understanding of the game 4. Leadership ability but other than those, cant really think of any. Granted he hasnt coached women before, but either had Terry Pettit. I concur with your first 3 statements - Have no opinion on his leadership ability because I don't know the man. You say Karch has never coached women before - has he ever coached either sex before? Does he have a degree? It really annoys me when colleges hire people who don't have a degree.
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Post by lovaza on Jan 12, 2010 15:26:15 GMT -5
In the midwest, you can get a very good house for $150K+. In Southern California, a $150K house will get you smack dab in the middle of gangland crossfire. On the plus side, there are plenty of sun, sand, surf, tacquerias, and Korean bul-goh-gis. Yum! Am I wrong, or did you just describe Long Beach?
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Post by dd2000 on Jan 12, 2010 15:38:31 GMT -5
In the midwest, you can get a very good house for $150K+. In Southern California, a $150K house will get you smack dab in the middle of gangland crossfire. On the plus side, there are plenty of sun, sand, surf, tacquerias, and Korean bul-goh-gis. Yum! If you can find a decent modest 3 bedroom home anywhere in a mid-west D1 college town for 150 K, let me know. I'll be on that faster than you can say "sale". I live in a small satellite school town in Wisconsin. A lower-middle class neighborhood with single moms and lots of screaming kids is what 150 K will get you here. Move up to 250-300 K and you are in a modest middle class neighborhood. Jump to an upper-middle class neighborhood, where many college coaches would want to live, and you are looking at 400 K plus.
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Post by Keystonekid on Jan 12, 2010 15:57:53 GMT -5
Disclaimer: I hereby state that this post annoys Ladeda and that he has no interest in what I have to offer. I am using my own mouthpiece to post the following_
UCLA may need to act quickly, I hear that there may be other players transferring
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Post by SaltNPepper on Jan 12, 2010 16:04:07 GMT -5
In the midwest, you can get a very good house for $150K+. In Southern California, a $150K house will get you smack dab in the middle of gangland crossfire. On the plus side, there are plenty of sun, sand, surf, tacquerias, and Korean bul-goh-gis. Yum! If you can find a decent modest 3 bedroom home anywhere in a mid-west D1 college town for 150 K, let me know. I'll be on that faster than you can say "sale". I live in a small satellite school town in Wisconsin. A lower-middle class neighborhood with single moms and lots of screaming kids is what 150 K will get you here. Move up to 250-300 K and you are in a modest middle class neighborhood. Jump to an upper-middle class neighborhood, where many college coaches would want to live, and you are looking at 400 K plus. I think you're a lot closer to what housing prices are like. I don't believe midwest housing prices took near the hit these last couple of years as they did on the coasts.
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Post by po'okela on Jan 12, 2010 16:06:21 GMT -5
i love andy and all but ucla needs to redo their floors, it's BLINDING...
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Post by nevballfan on Jan 12, 2010 16:15:40 GMT -5
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Post by aced on Jan 12, 2010 16:22:52 GMT -5
Housing is definitely more costly in LA but there are tradeoffs.. no heating oil costs for instance-works better for coach without school age children as many affordable areas in LA almost require u send your kids to private school- volleyball people however love Manahattan Beach - not a far commute and an athletic exciting community especially for younger coaches and families. Won't get the same house as Lincoln..but who cares?
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 12, 2010 16:33:55 GMT -5
Housing is definitely more costly in LA but there are tradeoffs.. no heating oil costs for instance-works better for coach without school age children as many affordable areas in LA almost require u send your kids to private school- volleyball people however love Manahattan Beach - not a far commute and an athletic exciting community especially for younger coaches and families. Won't get the same house as Lincoln..but who cares? The major downside of a house in Lincoln is that it is a house in Lincoln....
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