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Post by gobruins on Jan 14, 2010 16:01:01 GMT -5
At 40+ on the pension scale (even with California's fiscal problems) I'd assume Andy doesn't need a job. But, while he doesn't strike me as the type of man who just wants to play golf and travel, I wouldn't guess that he'd want to start over at another University. He should have a wide range of options from camps and training to consulting, being a hiring agent for other coaches, or doing TV work. I know there are detractors here and I'm sure if you asked him, even he would have regrets about some of his actions/decisions over a 43-year stint...but he should be able to sleep good at night. His accomplishments are so incredibly remarkable and the longevity in one high-level, high-stress position for more than four decades is the stuff of legends. It doesn't really matter, but I don't think Andy's pension covers all 43 years. I don't believe he started accruing pension benefits until sometime in the 80's when women's sports started to be treated equally to men's sports. I believe that for most of the 70's he was an employee of the UCLA's Recreation Dept., not the Athletic Dept. Still, there was a mention in one of the Daily Bruin articles that Andy said he would be making as much money in retirement as he did on the job.
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Post by hammer on Jan 14, 2010 16:16:06 GMT -5
At 40+ on the pension scale (even with California's fiscal problems) I'd assume Andy doesn't need a job. But, while he doesn't strike me as the type of man who just wants to play golf and travel, I wouldn't guess that he'd want to start over at another University. He should have a wide range of options from camps and training to consulting, being a hiring agent for other coaches, or doing TV work. I know there are detractors here and I'm sure if you asked him, even he would have regrets about some of his actions/decisions over a 43-year stint...but he should be able to sleep good at night. His accomplishments are so incredibly remarkable and the longevity in one high-level, high-stress position for more than four decades is the stuff of legends. It doesn't really matter, but I don't think Andy's pension covers all 43 years. I don't believe he started accruing pension benefits until sometime in the 80's when women's sports started to be treated equally to men's sports. I believe that for most of the 70's he was an employee of the UCLA's Recreation Dept., not the Athletic Dept. Still, there was a mention in one of the Daily Bruin articles that Andy said he would be making as much money in retirement as he did on the job. Well, if he's making as much money, that is a little disconcerting if it is State of CA money. Usually most employees in private industry will get a pension of between 25 and 50% of their last year's salary. Futhermore, there is no COLA included. Now, it could be that his pension funding is coming from alumni boosters, or private money, which I don't object to.
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Post by BearClause on Jan 14, 2010 16:39:00 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter, but I don't think Andy's pension covers all 43 years. I don't believe he started accruing pension benefits until sometime in the 80's when women's sports started to be treated equally to men's sports. I believe that for most of the 70's he was an employee of the UCLA's Recreation Dept., not the Athletic Dept. Still, there was a mention in one of the Daily Bruin articles that Andy said he would be making as much money in retirement as he did on the job. Well, if he's making as much money, that is a little disconcerting if it is State of CA money. Usually most employees in private industry will get a pension of between 25 and 50% of their last year's salary. Futhermore, there is no COLA included. Now, it could be that his pension funding is coming from alumni boosters, or private money, which I don't object to. How long would it take to max out pension benefits? I remember there was some controversy over the "retirement" and rehiring of the UC Berkeley Chief of Police. She'd been a UC "safety officer" for 34 years and apparently wouldn't accrue any further pension benefits. She then took her pension as a lump sum payout and was rehired at her previous pay level, but without any medical benefits at the time she permanently left the job. I'd think she would have talked this over with a tax advisor. www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2008/05/15_brostrom.shtml
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Post by OptimusPrime on Jan 14, 2010 16:51:04 GMT -5
I'll buy this... but sure would have been nice to see Andy at LMU... I know he was contacted... That would've been like Jack Donaghy going from GE to ConEd. One could say that is retirement!! ;D Hence, why not...
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 14, 2010 17:55:46 GMT -5
People Andy B's age cannot afford to hang around and enjoy the sunset. If they're not active -- mentally and physically -- their mind and body deteriorate. Here's what I recommend for Andy B:
1. Learn a foreign language -- Spanish would be good. Perhaps Chinese. 2. Play badminton at the local rec center. (Did you know Denise Corlett was an All-American in badminton? She was also in the same class as Troy Aikman at UCLA.) 3. Write that memoir you've always talked about writing. 4. Apply to grad school and get a Master's in something fun. UCLA has a lot to offer, unless your family won't allow you to study certain fields. 5. Carry your camcorder around and take film footage of your retirement life and then make them into movies by editing them on the Apple iMac with Final Cut Pro.
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Post by volleysnoop on Jan 14, 2010 21:21:14 GMT -5
As far as Burt Fuller goes word is that he left SDSU. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Post by silversurfer on Jan 14, 2010 21:32:24 GMT -5
As far as Burt Fuller goes word is that he left SDSU. Does anyone know if this is true? Yup, it's true.
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Post by vbbuck on Jan 14, 2010 21:35:01 GMT -5
As far as Burt Fuller goes word is that he left SDSU. Does anyone know if this is true? Yes it is true
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Post by hammer on Jan 14, 2010 21:51:07 GMT -5
Well, if he's making as much money, that is a little disconcerting if it is State of CA money. Usually most employees in private industry will get a pension of between 25 and 50% of their last year's salary. Futhermore, there is no COLA included. Now, it could be that his pension funding is coming from alumni boosters, or private money, which I don't object to. How long would it take to max out pension benefits? I remember there was some controversy over the "retirement" and rehiring of the UC Berkeley Chief of Police. She'd been a UC "safety officer" for 34 years and apparently wouldn't accrue any further pension benefits. She then took her pension as a lump sum payout and was rehired at her previous pay level, but without any medical benefits at the time she permanently left the job. I'd think she would have talked this over with a tax advisor. www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2008/05/15_brostrom.shtmlHere is an excerpt from your web link: "The normal retirement age in California for public safety officers is 50. It is common in California for senior police officials, whose retirement is similar to that offered UC safety officers, to retire at 90 percent to 100 percent of their pay and work again as full-time chiefs. In the UC system, he said, four of the other nine chiefs are receiving their retirement benefits from California municipalities and are working full-time for UC campuses." Is it no wonder the State of CA has budget problems. First, you can retire at age 50 and draw 90% of your salary. Second, you can double-dip and get another high paying public job that provides a second pension.
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Post by gobruins on Jan 15, 2010 4:31:45 GMT -5
People Andy B's age cannot afford to hang around and enjoy the sunset. If they're not active -- mentally and physically -- their mind and body deteriorate. Here's what I recommend for Andy B: 1. Learn a foreign language -- Spanish would be good. Perhaps Chinese. 2. Play badminton at the local rec center. (Did you know Denise Corlett was an All-American in badminton? She was also in the same class as Troy Aikman at UCLA.) 3. Write that memoir you've always talked about writing. 4. Apply to grad school and get a Master's in something fun. UCLA has a lot to offer, unless your family won't allow you to study certain fields. 5. Carry your camcorder around and take film footage of your retirement life and then make them into movies by editing them on the Apple iMac with Final Cut Pro. Denise Corlett was at UCLA from 1976 to 1980. Troy Aikman was at UCLA from 1986 to 1988. Andy in an avid racquetball player.
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Post by Mocha on Jan 15, 2010 5:17:12 GMT -5
As far as Burt Fuller goes word is that he left SDSU. Does anyone know if this is true? Yup, it's true. Wow, one full season, still longer than his stint at Marquette. ;D
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Post by azvb on Jan 15, 2010 10:59:30 GMT -5
Yes, I knew Denise C. played badminton. Interesting story - well maybe not, but what the hey. . . .
I got 2nd place at state in doubles badminton my senior year in high school. I played tennis and badminton in H.S. - volleyball wasn't offered. Had every intention of trying out for the BYU badminton team. Saw an article (maybe3 lines long) in the school paper announcing tryouts for the volleyball team (1973-they still had tryouts). I figured, what the heck, I was the star on my church team - we played 9 on a side. Vball tryouts were the day before badminton tryouts, so I went for it. Long story short, I made 3rd string JV (I never got in a game, therefore I "redshirted" my freshman year) and my badminton career was over. I've often thought how different my life would be if I hadn't seen that short article in the school paper.
Oh, and I went to BYU at the same time as Danny Ainge and Gifford Nielsen.
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Post by tomclen on Jan 15, 2010 11:52:03 GMT -5
Remind me to tell you sometime about my entrepreneurial Uncle Roscoe back in West Virginia. He opened up "Lil' Birdies - Shuttlecock Supply & Repair Shop."
Eventually he figured out he needed to expand into rackets and nets, but by then he had sunk too much in to keep it going. Turned it into a girlie bar...kept the "Lil' Birdies" name.
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Post by azvb on Jan 15, 2010 12:14:53 GMT -5
Remind me to tell you sometime about my entrepreneurial Uncle Roscoe back in West Virginia. He opened up "Lil' Birdies - Shuttlecock Supply & Repair Shop." Eventually he figured out he needed to expand into rackets and nets, but by then he had sunk too much in to keep it going. Turned it into a girlie bar...kept the "Lil' Birdies" name. I don't know what your vocation is, but you should seriously consider a career in writing comedy. Thank you for the chuckles you have provided.
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Post by VBwatcher on Jan 15, 2010 13:00:46 GMT -5
I've been away from Volleytalk for awhile, so first things first. Congratulations to Andy on making his decision to retire on his own terms. Well deserved time now to do other important personal things left for him in life.
I've always enjoyed seeing his UCLA Bruins teams coming over to Hawaii in August/September each year for those "Preseason" 4 team Hawaii VB Tournaments. Banachowski's teams were always tough and I like that...fine competition provided whether we win or lose...those games are the ones I would personally go to see. GREAT legacy at UCLA and in the Women's volleyball world overall. Class act ... Thank you Andy ... Aloha!
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