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Post by beatyoudown on Mar 8, 2006 3:15:14 GMT -5
Lets get the nationals %*$# talking started by expressing or griefs. I, for instance dislike the teams from Wisconsin. All of them are disturbed in some fashion but should be revered for they do know how to play ball, it perplexes me!
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Post by shibbybeam on Mar 8, 2006 6:28:32 GMT -5
The team that really pisses me off is BYU. The reason being is that they already have a huge advantage by most of there players going on their missions and being eligible to play until they are 24 or 25 years old. Yet they still go and recruit out of the country. I know that some of you are going to say that they are just being smart, but can anyone tell me another sport that teams recruit out of the country, besides maybe water polo.
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Post by mblocker1 on Mar 8, 2006 9:12:56 GMT -5
Good idea for a topic, I think Oshkosh should think about these few ideas to help their team. -Graduate if you think the teams they play are so terrible. A team that has mostly 5th and 6th year UNDERGRADS that has been playing together with the same lineup for about 3-4 years isn't going to have trouble with a club team. You'd better beat everyone, you are playing against kids at your age. So either stop complaning about the comp., or go play TPC or Summit and lets see how good you are. -If you did graduate and get a job, which is the point of most colleges, you would be playing USAV instead of college club. Clubs play other clubs for a reason idiot. Go to USAV Nationals instead of club nationals, which is your logic here. - You couldn't get the job done last year against Marquette, so you all come back now and try to run the table against every other normal team that graduates its players. Read your previous posts talking about how you guys were supposed to be graduating, that really held water.  -You had better win Nationals with the way you guys carry yourself and talk. Why not come out and state you'll take it all if the competition is so bad. -Its also funny when your worst player, Lew8ftln, is the one talking all the trash. I like cocky teams as much as anyone. I also appreciate talented teams. But a team that won't admit they are good because of super-super seniors who are academic jokes that do nothing but play volleyball is ridiculous. Take Cal or Illinois for example, powerhouses that graduate and get new players every year, not old men hanging to a dream they couldn't fufill. Quit walking around like you are Pepperdine, with the rate your ego is growing you won't even win MIVAs. AGAIN. That said, OSHKOSH , I don't like you and nobody around the club scene does. |
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Post by pepperdoody on Mar 8, 2006 10:07:55 GMT -5
WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS ADOLESCENT POSTS LIKE THIS !!!
GO BACK TO VOLLEYBALL MAG FORUM !!
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Post by cougvb on Mar 8, 2006 10:08:20 GMT -5
The team that really pisses me off is BYU. The reason being is that they already have a huge advantage by most of there players going on their missions and being eligible to play until they are 24 or 25 years old. Yet they still go and recruit out of the country. I know that some of you are going to say that they are just being smart, but can anyone tell me another sport that teams recruit out of the country, besides maybe water polo. Run a search and see that this topic has been debated to death. Other schools could encourage their freshmen to join the Peace Corp for two years and them come back and finish their eligibility. Then we'll see what a "huge advantage" going on a mission is. It's done wonders for BYU's football, baseball, and basketball teams-not. |
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Post by pepperdoody on Mar 8, 2006 10:23:22 GMT -5
It's hard to believe anyone thinking being away from a game and playing it at a high level can be good . The only thing it does do is give them more maturity . I am not a mormon as you can tell by other posts , and it really busts my grill when ather people complain about the age issue . Just like steroids in baseball it wasn't ( isn't illegal ) .
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Post by Lew8ftln on Mar 8, 2006 13:44:24 GMT -5
...And this year's winner of the most salty vag goes to.....<Drum Role>
mblocker1
for posting the same whiney mssg on two different threads
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Post by donkeykong on Mar 8, 2006 15:10:08 GMT -5
The team that really pisses me off is BYU. The reason being is that they already have a huge advantage by most of there players going on their missions and being eligible to play until they are 24 or 25 years old. Yet they still go and recruit out of the country. I know that some of you are going to say that they are just being smart, but can anyone tell me another sport that teams recruit out of the country, besides maybe water polo. What advantage is going on a mission? No physical activity (other than walking) for two years and then back to volleyball. If there is such a "huge advantage" then why is BYU so bad in the other sports. I mean...those are a bunch of return missionaries, shouldn't they also have a "huge advantage." Maybe it's the coaching? Wow...never thought of that have you. All of the other volleyball programs are recruiting out of the country and if you think otherwise you are wrong. You have no idea about the mission thing and like cougvb said, if you think that is such an advantage then maybe the other schools should require their new recruits to go serve 2 years in Peace corps before enrolling in school. This topic should be done but always comes up. |
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Post by MarqVB11 on Mar 8, 2006 20:36:06 GMT -5
People making posts related to BYU on this thread...read the thread title again...thanks.
I'm not playing club anymore, because as mblocker suggested club players do, I graduated (yeah I'm still in grad school). But, there's a multitude of teams that pissed me off over the years...mostly when I was a freshman/sophomore.
Oshkosh...my freshman year they were terrible, couldn't even come close to us, but they were still Oshkosh, which I had to hate as an MU player. Jr/Sr year, they didn't bother me as much. I could see how they'd still be annoying to many people, but we always worked them when we matched up so it was less emotional overall.
Michigan State, their talent dropped off over my club years, but they managed to piss me off all four years. Freshman year they pissed me off because their players were d-bags and really good (Justin Timberlake, Skinny, the RSH with the world's largest nose and perma-tan). Later, they were garbage, but their coach still liked to say things such as MU would not win Midwest 10 in 2004 directly to our coach's face, and that the Big Ten was better than Midwest 10 last year.
Illinois...always good, but also always cocky. They had a habit of starting their 2nd team against certain teams they think they should blow out. Maybe that's why they didn't do much last year until Nationals.
Arizona...I probably don't need to say anything here. But for example, a middle of theirs talking trash to our coach of all people, BONER. Without their $$$ source, the past few years they've dropped a little.
Whitewater was a pain in the butt freshman year also. I think we did beat them 6 out of 7 times through the year, but they wound up finishing 5th at nationals to our 9th...that sucks.
Lakeland was never fun to play either, but it's great when Chad gets pissed off and starts yelling in his high-pitched shreak.
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Post by mumvb on Mar 9, 2006 20:02:40 GMT -5
^A very good summary.
To mblocker1... "Cal and Illinois graduate people"
Cal's best player last year... what year was he?
U of I, how old was Johnny before he got out of there?
You are a stupid herb... shut up please.
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Post by mblocker1 on Mar 9, 2006 21:24:28 GMT -5
Ummm...i'm failing to see your logic mullet boy.
Cal's best player was a GRAD student. Being smart enough to get a master's degree and be a good volleyball player is different than being a 6th year UNDERGRAD hanging around. If you can't see that....well....I feel bad for you.
Illinois...who I assume youre talking about is John Ockers, graduated in 4.
Got any other brain busters? No? Then shut your mouth.
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Post by mumvb on Mar 9, 2006 23:45:32 GMT -5
First of all... mullet comedy is about 2 years old... so let it go.
Also... be careful flaunting that title of "mblocker" because there are about 2 good ones out there in club right about now, and if your name doesn't begin with Fab or Sem, you're not one of them (and if you graduated, congrats, I wouldn't have guessed).
Al Glick, smart or not, is the pure definition of the term "Ringer." The team brought in someone, regardless of academic status, to make their team win. Aside from that, I really don't know much about Cal's players (last year, they might as well have had only 1 anyway). I really don't see the difference between using a 6th year of undergrad and using a national player (or whatever he was) to enhance your team. If you don't like one, you should probably not like the other.
As for U of I, I was greatly under the impression that Johnny was around for well over 4 years, but I may have gotten bad information on that one. If so, I stand corrected.
Anywho, how did U of I and Cal do last year anyway? Yeah, so maybe holding on to a decent player could have helped them finish somewhere higher than third.
MATC? Definitely much worse than what you accuse UWO of... and they were even better. Arizona? I can't say for sure, but I've seen guys on that team last year that I played against my freshman year, and I think it's safe to assume that they weren't all freshmen too.
In fact... lo and behold, most extremely successful clubs, happen to be so because they have very experienced players.
So you can run around telling people to be more like U of I and finish third every year, but UWO is going to keep their pace and f*cking trounce everyone, and if they do, they have a right to complain about nobody being able to keep up. And they are definitely not alone in taking people for a 6th year.
There are so many reasons why you are a jackass, but I really don't feel like listing anymore.
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Post by TrailMix on Mar 10, 2006 3:48:53 GMT -5
Brought in Al Glitz as a ringer? I don't think you really thought this argument through. You really think Cal is recruiting overseas? This is UC Berkeley, the finest public university in the world, and many foreign students come from all over because it's world famous as a center for learning. If a good player shows up and says I'm a student here and would like to play, how can you possibly fault Cal? Are they to say "no, you're too good, sorry." A few years back Cal also had a grad student coming from Argentina, though I can't remember his name. He was studying at Cal, heard there was a team and joined up. He wasn't a star like Al, but still, regular foreign students coming in should not be looked down upon. Don't assume that just because there was a highly talented foreign student, that he was recruited. This isn't a UCLA or BYU DI program we're talking about here, this is a club team. It just so happens it is a club team at one of the finest schools in the world, so many people will want to come there. MUMVB, don't take this post as anything other than just a clarification, you seem to be a decent poster here. I know in the volleyball world rumors run wild and i can imagine some resentment from some people when a top player comes in out of seemingly nowhere. I just think you didn't quite think it through when you suggested Cal was recruiting foreign talent abroad.  |
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Post by star035 on Mar 10, 2006 9:23:32 GMT -5
One of Arizona's outsides last year was actually a PhD student ...he had done UG and Grad work at BYU (though I don't believe he played varsity). If teams are fortunate enough to have grad students available (like MSU this year), so be it. The team still has to have the right chemistry to win. What helps UWO is that those guys have been together so many years, now.
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Post by MarqVB11 on Mar 10, 2006 9:51:19 GMT -5
Was the PhD student for Arizona the 5 foot nothing outside or the one with a full head of gray hair...cause that dude with the gray hair is either really unlucky or a little old to be playing club whether he is a grad student or not.
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