|
Post by tuggboat on Mar 29, 2006 15:33:37 GMT -5
This is exactly why NCAA teams do not schedule matches against club teams. There is absolutely nothing to gain from beating a club team and everything to lose. in a sense it sounds like some NCAA teams dont feel as though they're "ready" to play a sound club team.... It is all true that varsity programs have everything to lose and that club programs have everything to gain but if some of these varsity programs are so well maintained and are considered a "well-oiled machine", then shouldn't some of them be quiet confident in being able to beat a club team?
|
|
|
Post by pepperdoody on Mar 29, 2006 15:45:24 GMT -5
Well beachy , WRONG AGAIN , Cal Baptist has made a run through most of the MPSF this year , and do it every year , they usually have a very competetive team and I give their coach major credit for playing MPSF teams , and some years beating good MPSF teams . That said , the games don't count in the standings , but everyone knows that if a D-1 team gets beat by a club team , their ranking will probably be affected for the short term .
Sometimes the D- 1 coaches give a game over to their second team during these matches also just to get some playing time for guys that sit on the bench all the time .
|
|
|
Post by star035 on Mar 29, 2006 16:49:35 GMT -5
To be clear, Cal Baptist is a D-III program. While non-scholarship (by definition as a D-III), that's different than club. D-III programs have paid coaches, school funding and support, active recruitment, and commitments to regular (daily) practice and weight training. But again, they cannot give out athletic scholarships (tho' they can make smart use of academic scholarships and grants).
That doesn't necessarily make them better than club in the sense that drawing volleyball players to a small, D-III school might not yield more talent than what flows to larger, state schools.
|
|
|
Post by pepperdoody on Mar 29, 2006 16:54:11 GMT -5
Incedentily , UCLA's club team could probably beat their varsity team this year .
|
|
|
Post by nellakwah21 on Mar 29, 2006 17:09:43 GMT -5
I thought Cal Baptist was NAIA? Does anyone know the major differences regarding scholarships and recruiting at this level?
|
|
|
Post by BeachBoy on Mar 29, 2006 18:38:49 GMT -5
Cal Baptist is an NAIA school. The difference between NAIA and NCAA is the NAIA schools play, recruit, and give scholarship money by their own rules which are different than the NCAA. Scholarship money at the NCAA level is limited to 4.5 for Division I and II with Division III recieving no allowance for scholarship money. NAIA schools athletic departments decide how much athletic money to provide the program with for scholarship money. Another difference is the NAIA schools can contact a player basically any time they want or speak with them during a club tournament.
Doody.....I do not consider Cal Bap a "club team" they are a great NAIA team and if you would look at another post I mention that they would make the MPSF tournament each year if they were in the MPSF and affiliated with the NCAA.
|
|
|
Post by star035 on Mar 29, 2006 20:20:05 GMT -5
Yup, they're NAIA ...sorry. So the general point stands, that Cal Baptist is quite different than a club team.
|
|
Lew8ftln
Sophomore
Tweet? Follow team updates @oshkoshmvball or myself @bigfire8
Posts: 163
|
Post by Lew8ftln on Mar 30, 2006 9:05:09 GMT -5
Oshkosh Defeats NAIA Team (03-29-06) The UW-Oshkosh men's volleyball team remained undefeated on the 2006 season with a tough 30-25, 30-22, 22-30, 25-30, 15-10 victory over Cardinal Stritch University in a match held on Tuesday (March 28) in Milwaukee. The Titans entered the match as the #1 ranked team in NIRSA Division I and the Wolves were ranked #8 in the NAIA, a division that offers athletic scholarships.
UW-Oshkosh (33-0) started off strong as they slammed down 17 kills in the first game and 18 kills in the second to take a 2-0 lead in the match. Mike Semrad (Sr. - Waukesha) led the team with six kills in game one and James Bradley (So. - Racine) had five in game two. The team added 18 combined digs in the two games.
Cardinal Stritch University (13-8) came back in games three and four to force a deciding game. Hitting errors were the culprit for the Titans as five players had at least two as the team registered 11 in game three and eight in game four. Daniel Hessling (Fr. - Greenfield) came off the bench to contribute six kills on six attempts in game four.
Training 7-6 in game five, Nathan Sederberg (So. - Racine) rattled off four straight serves after a side out, including two by service ace. From there the Titans coasted to the victory in the first meeting between the two teams. Bradley collected three kills in the decisive game.
Semrad paced the visitors with 21 kills and five blocks for a .417 hitting percentage and Nathan Sederberg had six service aces and 11 kills. Bradley finished with 10 kills and Andrew Sederberg (Sr. - Racine) dished out 63 assists and had seven digs.
|
|