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Post by mikesmith on Apr 27, 2006 2:15:14 GMT -5
These matches should be fun to watch. Can't wait. Go Bruins!
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Post by Sweatbox on Apr 27, 2006 16:20:06 GMT -5
rob's a good guy. He makes the game fun, exciting and colorful. And after being at a lot of games in the area, those gyms could all use a guy like Rob. I know for a fact that for big games in the area coaches are trying to get him to get the crowd excited. Talk to any coach, official and sports administrator in the area. This guy is respected and well-liked. If you were the opponent and he was describing a good play I could see how it might seemed biased, but if you came back and did something exciting he would pump that play also. Whether or not Rob is good guy is irrelevant. I'm sure he is. As a PA announcer, he's terrible. Like a lot of PA announcers these days (and maybe a few refs), he needs to learn that the fans came to see the players, not him. I don't buy that he gets the crowd excited. The play on the court does that. I don't need the PA announcer to describe what I just saw and then tell me the score after every play. I have eyes. If he were a radio announcer, I might have a different opinion. But as it is, he's just another in a long line of new-age PA announcers that are in love with the sound of their own voice.
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Post by UCvBall on Apr 27, 2006 16:35:43 GMT -5
Sweatbox, with what you've just said, you make it sound like there shouldn't be someone announcing at the game at all, but rather basically sit and watch the game in mute. That leads me to ask you what you think is a good PA announcer?
I know this is practically irrelevant to Volleyball but I thought I'd ask, because I personally think Rob is doing a good job with announcing games. Please don't take any of this offensive, just asking a question.
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Post by Sweatbox on Apr 27, 2006 17:13:04 GMT -5
Sweatbox, with what you've just said, you make it sound like there shouldn't be someone announcing at the game at all, but rather basically sit and watch the game in mute. That leads me to ask you what you think is a good PA announcer? I know this is practically irrelevant to Volleyball but I thought I'd ask, because I personally think Rob is doing a good job with announcing games. Please don't take any of this offensive, just asking a question. "Kill by so-and-so." "Block by so-and-so." Mention who subs in for who. Tell us what the official ruled, and do the occasional promo during timeouts. I don't need him to scream that "Jack Turdball pounds one inside the block and down the line! Irvine leads game one 3-1" at the top of his lungs. That much I can deduce for myself. Unlike a radio announcer, he's talking to people that are there watching the match.
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Post by fingrbustr on Apr 27, 2006 17:23:08 GMT -5
Not to offend, Sweatbox, but I think Rob's play-by-play DOESN'T demean the live audience at all. He does a nice job of coloring the game, IMO. I think the majority here feel the same way that I do--that is, that rob does an AWESOME job and that volleyball in general needs more excitable, knowledgeable guys like him. Rob is a great mic man
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Post by fuzzball on Apr 27, 2006 17:42:33 GMT -5
I'm amused that this is even an issue. Rob is hardly "new wave." All those years that UCI was the doormat of the league, nobody complained. Now that they're winning its an issue. Rob, you must be doing something right. Personally I can't wait. I can watch VB w/ the tv muted, and sometimes do, but to see a packed Bren Center, and to watch two bitter rivalries, and hear Rob make the call is the best. Pepp and UCLA have a long history w/ each other, and UCI has always been LB's little brother. I don't need no bitterman tryin' to rain on my parade.
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Post by shankapotamus on Apr 27, 2006 17:54:08 GMT -5
rob's a good guy. He makes the game fun, exciting and colorful. And after being at a lot of games in the area, those gyms could all use a guy like Rob. I know for a fact that for big games in the area coaches are trying to get him to get the crowd excited. Talk to any coach, official and sports administrator in the area. This guy is respected and well-liked. If you were the opponent and he was describing a good play I could see how it might seemed biased, but if you came back and did something exciting he would pump that play also. Whether or not Rob is good guy is irrelevant. I'm sure he is. As a PA announcer, he's terrible. Like a lot of PA announcers these days (and maybe a few refs), he needs to learn that the fans came to see the players, not him. I don't buy that he gets the crowd excited. The play on the court does that. I don't need the PA announcer to describe what I just saw and then tell me the score after every play. I have eyes. If he were a radio announcer, I might have a different opinion. But as it is, he's just another in a long line of new-age PA announcers that are in love with the sound of their own voice. Sweatbox, what I meant was he's a good guy at what he does. He WANTS to bring the attention to the player-- not himself. He has a passion for the game and knows that it's the PLAYER that deserves the credit. I've heard the people at CSUN, Long Beach, UCLA, and Pepperdine. Those guys have witnessed some of the greatest volleyball games and players and as PAAs, they seem more like duds. Rob does it for both sides and all players. He APPRECIATES and KNOWS ABOUT the game and he tries to communicate it with color and flare not for personal gain but for the enjoyment of the fans and recognition of the players. Not everyone is as knowledgable as you or myself about the game so when the average Joe Shmoe comes into the gym they can SEE and HEAR the excitement and know what's going on when rob's on the mic. You're right, nothing is exciting as the plays themselves, but communicating it helps people understand and enjoy it even more. He's definitely not the best, but to call him terrible is too extreme because he does make it enjoyable.
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Post by Sweatbox on Apr 28, 2006 2:38:51 GMT -5
Whether or not Rob is good guy is irrelevant. I'm sure he is. As a PA announcer, he's terrible. Like a lot of PA announcers these days (and maybe a few refs), he needs to learn that the fans came to see the players, not him. I don't buy that he gets the crowd excited. The play on the court does that. I don't need the PA announcer to describe what I just saw and then tell me the score after every play. I have eyes. If he were a radio announcer, I might have a different opinion. But as it is, he's just another in a long line of new-age PA announcers that are in love with the sound of their own voice. Sweatbox, what I meant was he's a good guy at what he does. He WANTS to bring the attention to the player-- not himself. He has a passion for the game and knows that it's the PLAYER that deserves the credit. I've heard the people at CSUN, Long Beach, UCLA, and Pepperdine. Those guys have witnessed some of the greatest volleyball games and players and as PAAs, they seem more like duds. Rob does it for both sides and all players. He APPRECIATES and KNOWS ABOUT the game and he tries to communicate it with color and flare not for personal gain but for the enjoyment of the fans and recognition of the players. Not everyone is as knowledgable as you or myself about the game so when the average Joe Shmoe comes into the gym they can SEE and HEAR the excitement and know what's going on when rob's on the mic. You're right, nothing is exciting as the plays themselves, but communicating it helps people understand and enjoy it even more. He's definitely not the best, but to call him terrible is too extreme because he does make it enjoyable. Oh, give me a break. He wants to give recognition to the players? Come on. He loves the sound of his own voice and he's probably in hysterics over the fact this thread exists. If you and others here love it also, more power to you. Different strokes for different folks. I don't need a hyped up pseudo-cheerleader to enhance my enjoyment of volleyball. Fortunately, the sound system at the Bren sucked, the volleyball was great, and the crowd was loud, so he wasn't quite as annoying tonight.
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Post by mikesmith on Apr 28, 2006 6:28:06 GMT -5
Wow!
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Post by robonthemic on Apr 28, 2006 13:03:50 GMT -5
Oh, give me a break. He wants to give recognition to the players? Come on. He loves the sound of his own voice and he's probably in hysterics over the fact this thread exists. If you and others here love it also, more power to you. Different strokes for different folks. I don't need a hyped up pseudo-cheerleader to enhance my enjoyment of volleyball. Fortunately, the sound system at the Bren sucked, the volleyball was great, and the crowd was loud, so he wasn't quite as annoying tonight. Hi Sweatbox, I've been hanging back reading everyone's responses and in all honesty wanted to know how I can improve what it is I do/don't do right. I'm always in for constructive criticism-- seriously. I can deduce from your emails some info but I think good dialog off the posts would be better. Hopefully, if you're game please contact me directly via email - robonthemic@yahoo.com
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Post by ucivball on Apr 28, 2006 13:11:35 GMT -5
well rob, at least you've won over one prior critic, vballmom. i think from another post, she commented that you were wonderful...or something along those lines.
the game was already nerve racking for me since our boys weren't playing so well, you only added to the tension with your added enthusiasm.
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Post by Sweatbox on Apr 28, 2006 14:04:13 GMT -5
Oh, give me a break. He wants to give recognition to the players? Come on. He loves the sound of his own voice and he's probably in hysterics over the fact this thread exists. If you and others here love it also, more power to you. Different strokes for different folks. I don't need a hyped up pseudo-cheerleader to enhance my enjoyment of volleyball. Fortunately, the sound system at the Bren sucked, the volleyball was great, and the crowd was loud, so he wasn't quite as annoying tonight. Hi Sweatbox, I've been hanging back reading everyone's responses and in all honesty wanted to know how I can improve what it is I do/don't do right. I'm always in for constructive criticism-- seriously. I can deduce from your emails some info but I think good dialog off the posts would be better. Hopefully, if you're game please contact me directly via email - robonthemic@yahoo.com Rob, I appreciate you asking for my comments. I've been a longtime critic of the trend towards cheerleading PA announcers. Despite my comments above, you are far from the worst. That honor went to the Arizona basketball PA at McHale Center who screamed incessantly in a high pitched voice on a sound system turned up to ear-splitting levels. I don't mind enthusiasm, or a little excitement in the voice after a big play. What I don't like is when a PA announcer doesn't give credit to the fan for having eyes. Just give the basics. I don't need a full blown play-by-play description of what I just saw, and I certainly don't need to be told the score after every play. I realize I'm like the perverbial fish swimming upstream here. The trend is running against me. While I don't like it, it's not going to stop me from attending matches. I long considered the Bren's regular announcer, Greg Katz, to be a solid PA man. I commented recently how he seems to be becoming a cheerleader type lately. I was told that the UCI folks had demanded that he amp up his routine to create a "more exciting atmosphere". Maybe they didn't think UCI basketball was exciting enough. I don't know. He's complied, but I know that he's not comfortable with it. I would never have started a thread on this subject. I saw it and commented. For those that like your style, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Take care.
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Post by Mac on Apr 28, 2006 14:16:51 GMT -5
Rob.. the sound on the far side was muted and aweful. You guys need to make sure the speakers are working on that side and turn up the trebble. I was at the snack booth on your side and heard everything clear as a bell, then went back to my seat to the hard-to-hear section.
Personally, I'm ok with your style. You're a bit too monotone for me though. Might think about mixing that up. Good job overall.
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Post by robonthemic on Apr 29, 2006 10:33:35 GMT -5
Sweatbox, thanks for your response and your comments. Definitely appreciated!
Mac, I asked about the sound system at the Bren as well (spoke to the people coordinating) and the staff said they don't know if there is anything they can do about it-- so I've been told. Which is a bummer because I've only got about 50% of my voice back-- recovering from a cold this week, so combine that with the poor sound engineering = bad sound overall. I'm hoping for better results tonight! And thanks for your feedback also.
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Post by vballmom on Apr 29, 2006 11:01:44 GMT -5
I thought Rob did a nice job for both matches on Thursday. He knew who everyone was on all 4 teams.
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