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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 16:43:45 GMT -5
two things, can it be verified that all cook said was "that ball was out"? from his press conference about "500 uw fans told me it was out", i suspect that might be a little hyperbolic... so i wonder whether cook left out some other details he might have said to jmac. secondly, if you say anything other than "nice match" or "good luck", you're instigating for some type of reaction. simply because for what other reasonable excuse would you say something like that? what if jmac reacted to the alleged comment by simply saying "nice match", we wouldn't have heard about cook's behavior. as others have pointed out, jmac not wanting to talk about the incident afterwards is most likely a recognition, whether forced or not, that how he reacted was inappropriate. however, cook's comments during the media interview of "all i said..." and "500 fans told me" shows his immaturity and inability to recognize the silliness of his comment to the opposing coach. what if immediately after the match, every single nebraska player said "that ball was out" while shaking the UW's players hands as opposed to just saying "nice match". as a coach, would cook condone that behavior of his players? Well ...according to many of you if.....the Nebraska girls would have said to the opposition," the ball was out," that evidentally would have given the Washington girls permission to go postal and try to physically confront them.
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Post by recoil on Dec 12, 2010 16:45:36 GMT -5
I don't know what all the fuss is about.
An opposing coach told Cook to F off. So what? Cook probably needs more people to tell him that, not less.
Ooooo, mommy, he said a bad word to me!
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 16:46:15 GMT -5
Actually, the only thing it shows is that in true midwest fashion, they are willing to circle the wagons around one of their own. We are the only entity in this discussion who have admitted that our coach was out of line on several posts. Who is circling the wagons?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 16:47:05 GMT -5
You guys should try creating more hypothetical scenarios which have nothing to do with the actual situation. They make soooo much sense and are really relevant, too. I'll just accept it: Nebraska fans are not going to admit that John should've kept his trap closed and if he had, nothing would have happened between them. They believe that JMac is just a wild son-of-a-bitch who randomly attacks other coaches after beating them without provocation. Find a Nebraska fan who hasn't said that John should have kept his mouth shut. That is not what this discussion is about. What is it about then?! It's the NU fans trying to put focus on JMac's reaction rather than the thing that CAUSED this whole damn debacle?!
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 16:47:29 GMT -5
I don't know what all the fuss is about. An opposing coach told Cook to F off. So what? Cook probably needs more people to tell him that, not less. Ooooo, mommy, he said a bad word to me! classy...this says it all.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 16:49:05 GMT -5
Find a Nebraska fan who hasn't said that John should have kept his mouth shut. That is not what this discussion is about. What is it about then?! It's the NU fans trying to put focus on JMac's reaction rather than the thing that CAUSED this whole damn debacle?! Do you listen to anyone? We just want you to acknowlege that both coaches handled it poorly. Is that so difficult? Lets see if you can do it.
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 12, 2010 16:49:26 GMT -5
If he was out of line, then isn't an apology in order?
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 16:50:44 GMT -5
If he was out of line, then isn't an apology in order? both should apologize....don't you think? They both were an embarrassment to their teams.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 16:53:35 GMT -5
What is it about then?! It's the NU fans trying to put focus on JMac's reaction rather than the thing that CAUSED this whole damn debacle?! Do you listen to anyone? We just want you to acknowlege that both coaches handled it poorly. Is that so difficult? Lets see if you can do it. I've already said that JMac reacted poorly, though I completely understand and support his reaction. JMac reacted poorly, but he reacted exactly how I would've reacted to such a sarcastic, consdescending comment. Can you admit that Class-Act-Cook should've accepted the defeat with dignity and class and that, had he not said anything other than "Good match, Coach," no altercation would have ensued?
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 16:54:49 GMT -5
Do you listen to anyone? We just want you to acknowlege that both coaches handled it poorly. Is that so difficult? Lets see if you can do it. I've already said that JMac reacted poorly, though I completely understand and support his reaction. JMac reacted poorly, but he reacted exactly how I would've reacted to such a sarcastic, consdescending comment. Can you admit that Class-Act-Cook should've accepted the defeat with dignity and class and that, had he not said anything other than "Good match, Coach," no altercation would have ensued? Just the fact that you openly admit and support the way he reacted says it all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 16:56:41 GMT -5
I've already said that JMac reacted poorly, though I completely understand and support his reaction. JMac reacted poorly, but he reacted exactly how I would've reacted to such a sarcastic, consdescending comment. Can you admit that Class-Act-Cook should've accepted the defeat with dignity and class and that, had he not said anything other than "Good match, Coach," no altercation would have ensued? Just the fact that you openly admit and support the way he reacted says it all. ... Orrrrrrrr, completely avoid my question. That says more than anything.
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Dec 12, 2010 16:58:29 GMT -5
Do you listen to anyone? We just want you to acknowlege that both coaches handled it poorly. Is that so difficult? Lets see if you can do it. I've already said that JMac reacted poorly, though I completely understand and support his reaction. JMac reacted poorly, but he reacted exactly how I would've reacted to such a sarcastic, consdescending comment. Can you admit that Class-Act-Cook should've accepted the defeat with dignity and class and that, had he not said anything other than "Good match, Coach," no altercation would have ensued? So you support coaches having poor reactions? So you really shouldn't have a problem with Cook's reaction to the call and losing the match. Unless... unless it only works one way.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 17:05:36 GMT -5
Just the fact that you openly admit and support the way he reacted says it all. ... Orrrrrrrr, completely avoid my question. That says more than anything. Oh...I already posted about that and assumed you had read it. I agree that Coach Cook should have not made the comment ...yes.
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Post by lionsarm on Dec 12, 2010 17:08:18 GMT -5
i don't support either team so i can care less about supporting the coaches. immediately after the game, both coaches were classless. at the press conference, jmac wanted to move pass it. now whether that was appropriate for him to not want to address the issue and maybe apologize, it's sure as hell more appropriate than how cook acted.
"i just said nice match and that ball was out"..."500 uw fans told me it was out"...cook is saying this in the press conference for what? b/c he thinks what he said to jmac was perfectly appropriate!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2010 17:14:36 GMT -5
I've already said that JMac reacted poorly, though I completely understand and support his reaction. JMac reacted poorly, but he reacted exactly how I would've reacted to such a sarcastic, consdescending comment. Can you admit that Class-Act-Cook should've accepted the defeat with dignity and class and that, had he not said anything other than "Good match, Coach," no altercation would have ensued? So you support coaches having poor reactions? So you really shouldn't have a problem with Cook's reaction to the call and losing the match. Unless... unless it only works one way. I support people standing up to jerks who make sarcastic, patronizing comments because they're devoid of any class or respect.
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