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Post by bigjohn043 on Jul 28, 2023 11:39:54 GMT -5
I think Stanford will be fine in the end. We are an attractive candidate for a bunch of conferences so at the end of the day it probably works out. We also have a lot of money so the TV money is probably just a bit less important to us. My view of the options: ACC - The ACC is fine now due to the GOR agreement to 2036. But their best schools are going to get raided after that. If they were smart, they would bulk up with some of the best P-12 teams to prepare for that. Maybe something like UW, UO, Stanford and cal. This could be a reasonable outcome. I thought the idea of piggybacking the Pac 12 onto the ACC deal - create a scheduling agreement and letting the Pac fill the later hours of the ACC network and other tv commitments - had a lot of merit but it didn't work and I think part of the problem was that ESPN wasn't willing to kick in the money. If they were to now bring 6-8 of them in as a 3rd division of the ACC I believe that would reopen the grant of rights, and A) Disney is cutting spending right now so there is no guarentee they'll kick in the $250-300 million per year to make the Pac 12 equal, and B) There is no guarantee that FSU and Clemson would sign another GOR that ties them to Boston College and some of the less viable teams. They might go to the SEC or something. I agree that merging the two didn't work. But adding ~4 of the best P-12 teams is a whole different matter. Not sure that adding teams opens up the GOR agreement. It would have to be approved by the ACC schools though.... |
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Post by bigjohn043 on Jul 28, 2023 12:46:41 GMT -5
I guess it'll also depend on the 2026 class and what ably thinks about them / who he think they'll be able to get. if there's a top MB in 2026 I could see him going with parks over an MB for '25 and vice versa. if he skips a setter this class that basically ensures yu will be the starter in 2025 which is something hell have to weigh the pros and cons of, even if it means having an extra MB on the bench We need Parks and Harvey more than anything tbh. We have more than enough pins I don't know why we need Parks. We already have two setters. I also have this view that setters are not huge difference makers. For instance, Miner is probably the best setter in college volleyball. But how much better is she than the average top 20 setter? She is better but I am not sure it is a huge difference. Kipp OTOH is the best OPP in college volleyball. And she is a lot better than the average top 20 OPP. She is literally the type of player that can take you to a title. Setters can't really do that. Yu is one of the best setters in her class. Not sure we need another in the year behind her. OTOH, DeMaria and Mullen are dominant pin hitters. Could be huge difference makers for us. We would be crazy not to take both. I also wonder if at least part of our answer at backup MB isn't one of these pin hitters. It isn't like MB is that different from OPP or OH. I played all three in my time. For that matter, if Francis or Vincini goes down I would rather see Blyashov or Harvey in the MB than Smith. At least try it. |
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jul 28, 2023 15:07:15 GMT -5
We need Parks and Harvey more than anything tbh. We have more than enough pins I don't know why we need Parks. We already have two setters. I also have this view that setters are not huge difference makers. For instance, Miner is probably the best setter in college volleyball. But how much better is she than the average top 20 setter? She is better but I am not sure it is a huge difference. Kipp OTOH is the best OPP in college volleyball. And she is a lot better than the average top 20 OPP. She is literally the type of player that can take you to a title. Setters can't really do that. Yu is one of the best setters in her class. Not sure we need another in the year behind her. OTOH, DeMaria and Mullen are dominant pin hitters. Could be huge difference makers for us. We would be crazy not to take both. I also wonder if at least part of our answer at backup MB isn't one of these pin hitters. It isn't like MB is that different from OPP or OH. I played all three in my time. For that matter, if Francis or Vincini goes down I would rather see Blyashov or Harvey in the MB than Smith. At least try it. So much more to being a higher level middle. The blocking is a huge difference. |
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Post by houseofvball on Jul 28, 2023 15:23:26 GMT -5
Anyone know who Stanford is actively recruiting? Lots of top tier talent still uncommitted and heard lots of names tied to Stanford (Mullen, Suli Davis, Logan Parks, Taylor Harvey, Zoe Gillen-Malveaux) from what ive heard... Stanford is interested in Mullen, parks, Harvey, and Demaria. im sure there are others too that are being recruited those are just the only ones ive heard from reliable sources. id like them to get everyone I named lol Offers are out to Gillen and Harvey from what I've heard. Ehrlich is in the mix somewhere as well. Question is does everyone have the grades? Gillen also has offer from Duke we've heard, along with probably 10 more. Over the next couple of weeks you will see some significant movement in top MBs. They just aren't moving as fast as OH or setters. |
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Post by sleepy on Jul 28, 2023 17:20:51 GMT -5
Is it possible Parks is getting recruited primarily as a pin?
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jul 28, 2023 17:23:00 GMT -5
from what ive heard... Stanford is interested in Mullen, parks, Harvey, and Demaria. im sure there are others too that are being recruited those are just the only ones ive heard from reliable sources. id like them to get everyone I named lol Offers are out to Gillen and Harvey from what I've heard. Ehrlich is in the mix somewhere as well. Question is does everyone have the grades? Gillen also has offer from Duke we've heard, along with probably 10 more. Over the next couple of weeks you will see some significant movement in top MBs. They just aren't moving as fast as OH or setters. Have you heard which way ZGM or Harvey are leaning? I’ve heard Texas is interested in Harvey as well. |
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Post by volley642 on Jul 28, 2023 17:27:00 GMT -5
Is it possible Parks is getting recruited primarily as a pin? I doubt it. Her setting is very athletic and I'd think that's where you'd want to develop her a la Miner |
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Post by sleepy on Jul 28, 2023 17:31:05 GMT -5
Offers are out to Gillen and Harvey from what I've heard. Ehrlich is in the mix somewhere as well. Question is does everyone have the grades? Gillen also has offer from Duke we've heard, along with probably 10 more. Over the next couple of weeks you will see some significant movement in top MBs. They just aren't moving as fast as OH or setters. Have you heard which way ZGM or Harvey are leaning? I’ve heard Texas is interested in Harvey as well. I have heard ZGM is leaning Stanford although this was third/fourth-hand information haha |
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Post by houseofvball on Jul 28, 2023 17:41:53 GMT -5
Is it possible Parks is getting recruited primarily as a pin? I doubt it. Her setting is very athletic and I'd think that's where you'd want to develop her a la Miner Not sure about ZGM but heard Harvey wanted Texas. |
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Post by hookem1 on Jul 28, 2023 18:00:41 GMT -5
Stanford has done well in MB recruiting in Texas recently. Smith, Smith, Campbell, Lutz(MB/OPP). Zoe would continue that trend. Plus she attends a private high school in Dallas, so she’s comfortable in that setting.
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Post by baytree on Jul 28, 2023 21:07:53 GMT -5
Any thoughts on what Stanford’s conference future is with the news about Colorado? I’ve read the other two threads, but curious what Stanford fans think (a) is likely; and (b) is ideal. (a) Stanford stays in the PAC unless Oregon or Washington leave. I don't think that happens this year. Where would Stanford go? I do not think the B1G (i.e., Fox) is interested and I don't think Stanford cares enough to get the B1G interested. No one is touching the ACC grant of rights. Couldn't be more toxic. I don't think Stanford wants to be in the Big XII and the Big XII is not interested in Stanford. I doubt there is interest on either side for Stanford to the SEC. (b) Apple acquires ESPN and gives the PAC an excellent contract. Not as good as the SEC or B1G bc the demographics do not support that. But very good. I don't think that is likely but Apple, Amazon, or Google streaming the PAC (along w a fair number of games on traditional media) are probably the PAC's best options. The B1G or SEC are next best but I don't think either is interested. The main thing is Stanford needs to decide what it wants to do with sports. Supposedly, they do not want to make the athletes employees. That might limit their options, depending on what Congress, SCOTUS, other conferences, etc. do. Sports is not exactly a focus right now. They need to hire a president and a provost before they make major decisions about sports. At least they have a new football coach. Having a decent football team will give them more options. And, unlike most schools, they don't really need the money. (Of course, they would rather have it.) They can afford to wait a few years until the landscape is more stable and maybe their football team is better. |
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jul 28, 2023 21:08:28 GMT -5
What a class that would be. Harvey, ZGM, Demaria, Mullen and Parks.
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Post by volleylbc on Jul 28, 2023 22:39:21 GMT -5
I heard from a reliable Utah source that for little Harvey Stanford is the top choice and Texas is close behind.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jul 28, 2023 23:29:40 GMT -5
I heard from a reliable Utah source that for little Harvey Stanford is the top choice and Texas is close behind. That makes me happy. |
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Post by setterdump on Jul 29, 2023 2:23:54 GMT -5
What a class that would be. Harvey, ZGM, Demaria, Mullen and Parks. That would be an amazing class but seems like libero should also be a top priority in 2025. Not sure Pringle, Kirsch, or Cawa are championship level liberos. Who are the top uncommitted liberos in the class that Stanford might have an eye on? |
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