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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 5, 2023 16:41:18 GMT -5
Don’t do this to my anxiety! Good things come to those who wait. liberosetter101 He is right; take that as my contact's and my answer to your DM (It is not all that hard to predict...what with the entirety of suggestions that we have posted to-date). 3 hot, 2 warm, one off. ETA - I will add that one of the "warms" is very warm; the other is still considering competing schools.
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Post by oldunc on Oct 5, 2023 16:43:57 GMT -5
Nebraska has Kennedi Orr on the bench for some time, and she was supposed to be the best in the class. Sealy recruited Moenoa/Strehlow in back to back years back in the day, and both were top recruits. Heck, Penn State recruited Glass/Yanz in the SAME class, and both were considered top setting recruits. I don't think it's that rare at the most elite schools. But yes, Stanford stacks talent along with Texas. Blyashov/Harvey/Kurt are all on the bench for the Cardinal, and will see who actually makes a big impact over time. Wasnt glass always projected as a pin, just like Hancock? Or am I making this up in my head As far as I can remember from what TV announcers said, she wasn't recruited specifically as a setter.
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Post by midnightblue on Oct 5, 2023 17:16:34 GMT -5
This feels like a million years ago.
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 5, 2023 17:50:17 GMT -5
Doesn’t Stanford have like 3 highly regarded freshman not playing currently? Kipp and Baird would be gone if not for COVID, and highly likely Blyashov and Harvey would be starters. baird actually redshirted in 2019 so she would still have this year of eligibility (as well as next year but she's not taking it)
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Post by hammer on Oct 5, 2023 19:46:38 GMT -5
Kipp and Baird would be gone if not for COVID, and highly likely Blyashov and Harvey would be starters. baird actually redshirted in 2019 so she would still have this year of eligibility (as well as next year but she's not taking it) Yes, good point, likely Baird would still be here even without COVID. Baird, with a push from her mom, decided to redshirt because she wasn't likely to break into the 2019 starting lineup.
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Post by acea on Oct 5, 2023 22:01:08 GMT -5
Since Baird and Vicini aren’t taking their covid years I’d assume they’re considering pro ball. I wonder where they’d end up. I think Baird could defintely be NT level at the Pan Am events, especially with how much she’s improved passing/D this season. Vicini’s a great blocker but definitely needs to be more of an offensive option. Kipp I think will get a mid-level offer from a turkish or italian team but her potential is very high.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 6, 2023 0:11:51 GMT -5
Since Baird and Vicini aren’t taking their covid years I’d assume they’re considering pro ball. I wonder where they’d end up. I think Baird could defintely be NT level at the Pan Am events, especially with how much she’s improved passing/D this season. Vicini’s a great blocker but definitely needs to be more of an offensive option. Kipp I think will get a mid-level offer from a turkish or italian team but her potential is very high. Since both Vicini and Baird are graduate students...plus info from two interviews and one relayed personal convo...I'd say McKenna is leaning more towards a career move (away from VB) while Caitie (who's an excellent student) may consider professional opportunities before making a career employment determination. I'd predict that Kipp is the most likely to seek out a long-term gig in Euro/International ball.
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Post by Word on Oct 6, 2023 9:42:12 GMT -5
Nebraska has Kennedi Orr on the bench for some time, and she was supposed to be the best in the class. Sealy recruited Moenoa/Strehlow in back to back years back in the day, and both were top recruits. Heck, Penn State recruited Glass/Yanz in the SAME class, and both were considered top setting recruits. I don't think it's that rare at the most elite schools. But yes, Stanford stacks talent along with Texas. Blyashov/Harvey/Kurt are all on the bench for the Cardinal, and will see who actually makes a big impact over time. Wasnt glass always projected as a pin, just like Hancock? Or am I making this up in my head Yes and no. Glass set and hit in high school. My guess is Russ maybe thought they could run a 6-2 and Glass stayed all around, but she was a wild card. That said, Russ saw something and named Glass the setter from Day 1, clearly he made the right call.
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Post by baytree on Oct 6, 2023 10:05:38 GMT -5
- Grads: The Stanford athletic department has some sway with the undergraduate admissions office, because they have had a long-standing relationship. However, when it comes to graduate departments, they have NO sway at all. The student needs to be accepted first into the department. Just because Hambly wants them as a grad student doesn't mean anything. For example... Stanford softball had an All-American on its roster this past year who wanted to spend her Covid year at Stanford... but the graduate school she applied to didn't accept her and she had to find a new home.
So no, it's not easy for Hambly or any Stanford coach not associated with football for that matter, to use the portal. It's not impossible, but the situation has to be just right and literally has to fall into their laps for it to happen.
Since we seem to have quite a few posters from other programs here, which schools do something different here? I thought that, in virtually all schools, the university admits undergrads and the department (or school for things like medicine or law) admits grad students. In my experience, it often isn't even the whole grad department but one or two professors in your area of interest. E.g., I knew a few ppl who wanted a PhD and MD. A few schools had specific programs for that (and they applied to that program) but many had to apply to, e.g., the Chemistry Department and the Med School. Most got in one but not the other. It was also a well known way to backdoor your way into a program. E.g., if you apply to med school and the chemistry dept and only get into med school at your top school, you can roll the dice and go to med school there. Take a few chemistry classes in your area of interest and do well, then reapply to the chem dept. Your chances of acceptance are much better, though not guaranteed.
ETA: It seems like Stanford has several masters programs that would be a good way for ppl who wanted to go to med school to backdoor their way in (if they wanted to go to Stanford Med School.) Same for a few other programs. It seems like that would be a good selling point for at least a few athletes.
later ETA: by backdoor, I mean that it gives a student an opportunity to take classes with and get to know the profs who will make (or contribute to, e.g., via a recommendation) the decision about whether they're admitted to med school/other desired school. It's not an automatic admission but she will have an opportunity to impress the prof with her class work, discussion contributions, willingness to work with classmates and the instructor, effort, intelligence, ambition, and other qualities. That opportunity is very valuable.
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Post by barnacle on Oct 6, 2023 10:52:10 GMT -5
- Grads: The Stanford athletic department has some sway with the undergraduate admissions office, because they have had a long-standing relationship. However, when it comes to graduate departments, they have NO sway at all. The student needs to be accepted first into the department. Just because Hambly wants them as a grad student doesn't mean anything. For example... Stanford softball had an All-American on its roster this past year who wanted to spend her Covid year at Stanford... but the graduate school she applied to didn't accept her and she had to find a new home.
So no, it's not easy for Hambly or any Stanford coach not associated with football for that matter, to use the portal. It's not impossible, but the situation has to be just right and literally has to fall into their laps for it to happen.
Since we seem to have quite a few posters from other programs here, which schools do something different here? I thought that, in virtually all schools, the university admits undergrads and the department (or school for things like medicine or law) admits grad students. In my experience, it often isn't even the whole grad department but one or two professors in your area of interest. E.g., I knew a few ppl who wanted a PhD and MD. A few schools had specific programs for that (and they applied to that program) but many had to apply to, e.g., the Chemistry Department and the Med School. Most got in one but not the other. It was also a well known way to backdoor your way into a program. E.g., if you apply to med school and the chemistry dept and only get into med school at your top school, you can roll the dice and go to med school there. Take a few chemistry classes in your area of interest and do well, then reapply to the chem dept. Your chances of acceptance are much better, though not guaranteed.
ETA: It seems like Stanford has several masters programs that would be a good way for ppl who wanted to go to med school to backdoor their way in (if they wanted to go to Stanford Med School.) Same for a few other programs. It seems like that would be a good selling point for at least a few athletes.
MSTP (physician scientist) programs are very competitive and the dual grad-program usually works when you've gotten into the more competitive/rigorous program first or having a compelling application that would get you in even without being in a program already. I.e. no one's "backdooring" their way into stanford med or law by starting a master's here first. I've heard of med or law students adding MBAs or med students switching to md/phd in rare cases.
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Post by baytree on Oct 6, 2023 10:58:23 GMT -5
Since we seem to have quite a few posters from other programs here, which schools do something different here? I thought that, in virtually all schools, the university admits undergrads and the department (or school for things like medicine or law) admits grad students. In my experience, it often isn't even the whole grad department but one or two professors in your area of interest. E.g., I knew a few ppl who wanted a PhD and MD. A few schools had specific programs for that (and they applied to that program) but many had to apply to, e.g., the Chemistry Department and the Med School. Most got in one but not the other. It was also a well known way to backdoor your way into a program. E.g., if you apply to med school and the chemistry dept and only get into med school at your top school, you can roll the dice and go to med school there. Take a few chemistry classes in your area of interest and do well, then reapply to the chem dept. Your chances of acceptance are much better, though not guaranteed.
ETA: It seems like Stanford has several masters programs that would be a good way for ppl who wanted to go to med school to backdoor their way in (if they wanted to go to Stanford Med School.) Same for a few other programs. It seems like that would be a good selling point for at least a few athletes.
MSTP (physician scientist) programs are very competitive and the dual grad-program usually works when you've gotten into the more competitive/rigorous program first or having a compelling application that would get you in even without being in a program already. I.e. no one's "backdooring" their way into stanford med or law by starting a master's here first. I've heard of med or law students adding MBAs or med students switching to md/phd in rare cases. Thanks. I know that Stanford has programs with the med school for joint degrees but not all universities do. (I was using applying to two departments/schools to illustrate that it's the process that AFAIK ALL universities use, not just Stanford; most of the ppl applied to other schools.) Stanford Law School and Stanford Business School have a longstanding joint JD/MBA. AFAIK, if you're a law student, you can just take B school classes and get the joint degree, i.e., apply to the program after you're a law student and you'll get in. Maybe things have changed but IME if you're a borderline application, taking classes with and getting to know the ppl who will actually decide on your application can help. Or it can hurt if you end up not clicking (though if you want a PhD where you'll be working closely with one faculty member, it's good to find that out in advance).
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 6, 2023 13:47:35 GMT -5
Since Baird and Vicini aren’t taking their covid years I’d assume they’re considering pro ball. I wonder where they’d end up. I think Baird could defintely be NT level at the Pan Am events, especially with how much she’s improved passing/D this season. Vicini’s a great blocker but definitely needs to be more of an offensive option. Kipp I think will get a mid-level offer from a turkish or italian team but her potential is very high. Since both Vicini and Baird are graduate students...plus info from two interviews and one relayed personal convo...I'd say McKenna is leaning more towards a career move (away from VB) while Caitie (who's an excellent student) may consider professional opportunities before making a career employment determination. I'd predict that Kipp is the most likely to seek out a long-term gig in Euro/International ball. Back to the current 2023 season...and adding to the quoted exchange...Kendall, Caitie and McKenna are fully invested in this season; they feel that the 2022 ending needs to be rectified and improved upon!
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Post by dokterrudi on Oct 6, 2023 14:26:16 GMT -5
Hoping to see Baird actually hit the ball today. No tips.
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Post by midnightblue on Oct 6, 2023 19:43:56 GMT -5
Semi-concerned that Stanford's loss to Florida by end of season will be considered a 'bad loss'... but the committee does take into consideration injuries so... hopefully?
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Post by hammer on Oct 6, 2023 19:47:05 GMT -5
Semi-concerned that Stanford's loss to Florida by end of season will be considered a 'bad loss'... but the committee does take into consideration injuries so... hopefully? Our injuries are much more important
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