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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 7, 2023 16:26:27 GMT -5
But we beat Minnesota. Florida swept us and lost to a team 15 places below them. True, but I don’t think Florida will fall out of the top 50. Minnesota is and has been going that direction. So, in my opinion, we are more likely to lose Minnesota as being a good win (top 50) vs having a bad loss from Florida (they’d need to fall out of the top 50). But even then, the selection committee knows why Florida is falling — an injury. That is taken into consideration. Minnesota's currently 27th in modified RPI (figstats) as of 2:17 PM PDT. Got a whole lot further to fall!
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Post by cbrown1709 on Oct 7, 2023 16:31:15 GMT -5
Florida will end up lower than Minnesota. They are on a downward spiral without Stuckey.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 7, 2023 19:05:46 GMT -5
During the break between the third and fourth sets of the UW match they showed Sami in a walking boot. She *seemed* to not have much of a limp; even stopped, stooped and restarted with relative ease. Not projecting or predicting she'll be out there on Sunday....But maybe a harbinger for the week after? As passed on earlier, the first update relayed to me is that she's questionable (50%) for next weekend.
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Post by hammer on Oct 7, 2023 23:18:44 GMT -5
Florida will end up lower than Minnesota. They are on a downward spiral without Stuckey. You might need to reevaluate -- Minny lost at Rutgers tonight 3-1. Minnesota spiraling downward too.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Oct 7, 2023 23:37:35 GMT -5
Florida will end up lower than Minnesota. They are on a downward spiral without Stuckey. You might need to reevaluate -- Minny lost at Rutgers tonight 3-1. Minnesota spiraling downward too. Jeez. Wtf?
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 8, 2023 0:10:52 GMT -5
But we beat Minnesota. Florida swept us and lost to a team 15 places below them. True, but I don’t think Florida will fall out of the top 50. Minnesota is and has been going that direction. So, in my opinion, we are more likely to lose Minnesota as being a good win (top 50) vs having a bad loss from Florida (they’d need to fall out of the top 50). But even then, the selection committee knows why Florida is falling — an injury. That is taken into consideration.As of 9:02 PM PDT, UF is sixth in modified RPI (Figstats). MINN has fallen to 40th, one spot behind UC Berkeley. Stanford's jumped over NEB into 2nd. Other Pac-12 schools: WSU 5th; Oregon 7th; ASU 13th.
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Post by gazelle1 on Oct 8, 2023 10:56:52 GMT -5
True, but I don’t think Florida will fall out of the top 50. Minnesota is and has been going that direction. So, in my opinion, we are more likely to lose Minnesota as being a good win (top 50) vs having a bad loss from Florida (they’d need to fall out of the top 50). But even then, the selection committee knows why Florida is falling — an injury. That is taken into consideration. As of 9:02 PM PDT, UF is sixth in modified RPI (Figstats). MINN has fallen to 40th, one spot behind UC Berkeley. Stanford's jumped over NEB into 2nd. Other Pac-12 schools: WSU 5th; Oregon 7th; ASU 13th. Huh. Nebraska is undefeated, and beat Stanford in Palo Alto, yet Stanford jumps ahead of Nebraska in the modified RPI. That must be some interesting math going on there.
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Post by baytree on Oct 8, 2023 11:04:08 GMT -5
As of 9:02 PM PDT, UF is sixth in modified RPI (Figstats). MINN has fallen to 40th, one spot behind UC Berkeley. Stanford's jumped over NEB into 2nd. Other Pac-12 schools: WSU 5th; Oregon 7th; ASU 13th. Huh. Nebraska is undefeated, and beat Stanford in Palo Alto, yet Stanford jumps ahead of Nebraska in the modified RPI. That must be some interesting math going on there. Why? Half your RPI is your opponent's win percentage. That's twice as much as your own win percentage.
The standard formula for the RPI is as follows: Team's Winning Percentage (WINPCT) - 25% of RPI Team's Opponent's Winning Percentage (OWP) - 50% of RPI Team's Opponent's Opponent's Winning Percentage (OOWP) - 25% of RPI Simplistically: (WINPCT/4) + (OWP/2) + (OOWP/4)
To get adjusted RPI (which is what the selection committee uses and what is quoted above) Double bonus for wins against RPI teams 1-25 Single bonus for wins against RPI teams 26-50 Single penalty for losses between 285 and 309 Double penalty for losses against RPI teams 310 and above Double bonus for 50% or more of out-of-conference games against RPI teams 1-75 Double penalty for 50% or more of out-of-conference games against RPI teams 260 and above
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Post by hammer on Oct 8, 2023 11:15:08 GMT -5
As of 9:02 PM PDT, UF is sixth in modified RPI (Figstats). MINN has fallen to 40th, one spot behind UC Berkeley. Stanford's jumped over NEB into 2nd. Other Pac-12 schools: WSU 5th; Oregon 7th; ASU 13th. Huh. Nebraska is undefeated, and beat Stanford in Palo Alto, yet Stanford jumps ahead of Nebraska in the modified RPI. That must be some interesting math going on there. Nebraska played a lot of cupcakes in pre-con, almost all at home. Their one BIG pre-con match was on the road at Stanford. RPI is based upon strength of schedule as baytree points out in the previous post.
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Post by jwvolley on Oct 8, 2023 11:28:45 GMT -5
Huh. Nebraska is undefeated, and beat Stanford in Palo Alto, yet Stanford jumps ahead of Nebraska in the modified RPI. That must be some interesting math going on there. Nebraska played a lot of cupcakes in pre-con, almost all at home. Their one BIG pre-con match was on the road at Stanford. RPI is based upon strength of schedule as baytree points out in the previous post. Remind me to thank those cupcakes for prepping us well enough to beat y’all 😉
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Post by jwvolley on Oct 8, 2023 11:30:11 GMT -5
As of 9:02 PM PDT, UF is sixth in modified RPI (Figstats). MINN has fallen to 40th, one spot behind UC Berkeley. Stanford's jumped over NEB into 2nd. Other Pac-12 schools: WSU 5th; Oregon 7th; ASU 13th. Huh. Nebraska is undefeated, and beat Stanford in Palo Alto, yet Stanford jumps ahead of Nebraska in the modified RPI. That must be some interesting math going on there. So much is about opponents and their records, as others have pointed out. Nebraska has a seeding advantage over Stanford anyways though because of the H2H.
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Post by hammer on Oct 8, 2023 13:36:19 GMT -5
Nebraska played a lot of cupcakes in pre-con, almost all at home. Their one BIG pre-con match was on the road at Stanford. RPI is based upon strength of schedule as baytree points out in the previous post. Remind me to thank those cupcakes for prepping us well enough to beat y’all 😉 Well maybe, but I tend to think it was more about talent and the ability to stay at home and get in meaningful practices. As Hambly said at a recent chalk talk, the tough pre-con schedule Stanford plays, cuts into developmental practices due to all the travel.
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Post by Cruz'n on Oct 8, 2023 14:18:41 GMT -5
Huh. Nebraska is undefeated, and beat Stanford in Palo Alto, yet Stanford jumps ahead of Nebraska in the modified RPI. That must be some interesting math going on there. Why? Half your RPI is your opponent's win percentage. That's twice as much as your own win percentage.
The standard formula for the RPI is as follows: Team's Winning Percentage (WINPCT) - 25% of RPI Team's Opponent's Winning Percentage (OWP) - 50% of RPI Team's Opponent's Opponent's Winning Percentage (OOWP) - 25% of RPI Simplistically: (WINPCT/4) + (OWP/2) + (OOWP/4)
To get adjusted RPI (which is what the selection committee uses and what is quoted above) Double bonus for wins against RPI teams 1-25 Single bonus for wins against RPI teams 26-50 Single penalty for losses between 285 and 309 Double penalty for losses against RPI teams 310 and above Double bonus for 50% or more of out-of-conference games against RPI teams 1-75 Double penalty for 50% or more of out-of-conference games against RPI teams 260 and above
Thanks for posting the formula in this thread. Now it will be easier for me to find, which I do about once each year!
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Post by Sbilo on Oct 8, 2023 16:55:05 GMT -5
It’s never easy to take 2 wins on the road at Washington schools. Good job ladies!
So Francis did not suit up, I feel like Hambly can rest her more as USC, UCLA and @osu all coming up.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 8, 2023 17:06:27 GMT -5
Well maybe, but I tend to think it was more about talent and the ability to stay at home and get in meaningful practices. As Hambly said at a recent chalk talk, the tough pre-con schedule Stanford plays, cuts into developmental practices due to all the travel. Sheffield at UW also talked about their nonconference schedule and the number of road games they played, which limited practice time early in the season and slowed the progress of the team much like Stanford's situation. I suspect you will see steady and continuous improvement from Stanford and UW now that they are getting more practice time in recent weeks. NU had a big advantage of essentially playing a home non conference schedule minus the Stanford game. Their ONLY other road game in non-conference was at KState, which is less than a 2-hour, day trip drive. They had ALOT more practice time than in their own gym than most of the other top programs playing a more aggressive road schedule. Just getting back into today's VB groove; newborn parenting duties (feeding, diapers, etc.) come first. Too many strange comments on the match thread. I voted 3-1 SU...but was vacillating on a 3-2 vote. REALLY proud of this team...without Francis, this squad showed their tenacity, grit and fight! Go Card.
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