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Post by jwvolley on Oct 30, 2023 18:24:05 GMT -5
if your asking me, yes lol. although oglivie, rubin, and miner are good defenders. baird and kipp are nothing to get excited about but not terrible. I think its that and poor blocking fromm the MBs when other teams are in system isnt baird passing a 2.2 or 2.3 something this year Or am I making this up in my head? Can someone post stanfords passing numbers Oh wait ignore me you said defending not passing ill excuse myself 2.18
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Post by hornshouse23 on Oct 30, 2023 18:32:46 GMT -5
Lack of trust in the defense? if your asking me, yes lol. although oglivie, rubin, and miner are good defenders. baird and kipp are nothing to get excited about but not terrible. I think its that and poor blocking fromm the MBs when other teams are in system That was my initial thought, just hadn’t seen enough to confirm.
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Post by hammer on Oct 30, 2023 18:39:44 GMT -5
I agree. USC is a strange choice. Congrats to Mullen though. Keller can recruit for sure, but they continue to underachieve the past few years. Them being in the Big 10 probably contributed heavily to the decision Yeah, if she's at a B1G school her parents could more easily travel to places like Lincoln, Iowa City, or Urbana-Champaign to see her play. Kellar may have promised her a starting role (or very good chance) in 2025. Hambly, assuming he's ethical, couldn't do it.
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Post by hammer on Oct 30, 2023 19:10:37 GMT -5
the biggest thing ive noticed with the serving strategy of 'errors dont matter' that hambly has adopted is that when playing good teams, we have a tough time gaining any separation. we struggle to string together more than 2-3 points at the MOST because we are sure to miss the serve before any big run can happen. there's plenty of teams that serve very tough and dont miss as much as stanford does. the issue with us is that hambly wants them trying to hit an ace on every single attempt Lack of trust in the defense? Hambly has stated that the only thing that really matters is serving yield. Example A: Stanford's first six servers all serve out on their first serves for a total of six service errors and a yield of -6 (negative six) points Example B: Stanford's first six servers all serve four times in a row with the last serve for each run being a SE, again for a total of 6 SEs, but giving a yield of (6x3)-6 = 12 points In the USC match @ Maples IIRC, Kami Miner served a run of 10 to start a set 10-0 before USC scored a point, so on that serving run her yield was 9. At Arizona, when it looked like Stanford was going to lose the first set, Caitie Baird served a run of 7 to close out the set 25-23, so her yield ended up being 7.
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Post by bigjohn043 on Oct 30, 2023 19:27:27 GMT -5
Them being in the Big 10 probably contributed heavily to the decision Yeah, if she's at a B1G school her parents could more easily travel to places like Lincoln, Iowa City, or Urbana-Champaign to see her play. Kellar may have promised her a starting role (or very good chance) in 2025. Hambly, assuming he's ethical, couldn't do it. If she wanted to go to a B1G then why not one that is good at volleyball? Enquiring minds want to know....
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Post by hammer on Oct 30, 2023 19:37:04 GMT -5
Yeah, if she's at a B1G school her parents could more easily travel to places like Lincoln, Iowa City, or Urbana-Champaign to see her play. Kellar may have promised her a starting role (or very good chance) in 2025. Hambly, assuming he's ethical, couldn't do it. If she wanted to go to a B1G then why not one that is good at volleyball? Enquiring minds want to know.... Maybe not just the B1G, but a contributing factor. Rumor was she was considering UCLA also, so she seemed to be focusing in on West Coast (fair weather) schools. I guess Nebraska didn't have a scholie, so what then -- Minny, Wisky, or Purdue?
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Post by ladyfan on Oct 30, 2023 19:44:44 GMT -5
I don’t know if this is the same recruit, but Nebraska mentioned at some point that one of the recruits who didn’t come indicated she wanted a bigger city experience…
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Post by bigjohn043 on Oct 30, 2023 20:04:40 GMT -5
If she wanted to go to a B1G then why not one that is good at volleyball? Enquiring minds want to know.... Maybe not just the B1G, but a contributing factor. Rumor was she was considering UCLA also, so she seemed to be focusing in on West Coast (fair weather) schools. I guess Nebraska didn't have a scholie, so what then -- Minny, Wisky, or Purdue? B1G schools clearly better at volleyball than U$C: Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Oregon, Washington. U$C hasn't made the second weekend since Mick Haley left in 2018. UCLA may be worse.
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 30, 2023 20:09:41 GMT -5
Maybe not just the B1G, but a contributing factor. Rumor was she was considering UCLA also, so she seemed to be focusing in on West Coast (fair weather) schools. I guess Nebraska didn't have a scholie, so what then -- Minny, Wisky, or Purdue? B1G schools clearly better at volleyball than U$C: Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Oregon, Washington. U$C hasn't made the second weekend since Mick Haley left in 2018. UCLA may be worse. like someone mentioned, it seems clear that level of play wasn't the deciding factor here. the best of the best were after her and she chose a team that struggles to be ranked - I think weather / location must've played a bigger role here than wanting to compete for nattys, cause she had multiple opportunities to join programs that are consistently doing that
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 30, 2023 20:29:33 GMT -5
B1G schools clearly better at volleyball than U$C: Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Oregon, Washington. U$C hasn't made the second weekend since Mick Haley left in 2018. UCLA may be worse. like someone mentioned, it seems clear that level of play wasn't the deciding factor here. the best of the best were after her and she chose a team that struggles to be ranked - I think weather / location must've played a bigger role here than wanting to compete for nattys, cause she had multiple opportunities to join programs that are consistently doing that AND, perhaps, some NIL $weetener.
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 30, 2023 21:05:58 GMT -5
like someone mentioned, it seems clear that level of play wasn't the deciding factor here. the best of the best were after her and she chose a team that struggles to be ranked - I think weather / location must've played a bigger role here than wanting to compete for nattys, cause she had multiple opportunities to join programs that are consistently doing that AND, perhaps, some NIL $weetener. definitely a possibility. but with volleyball, the reality is only a handful of players are making anything worthy of making a 4 year commitment to a school, and very slim chance a freshman is guaranteed any 'good' money immediately through NIL. most of the cash is coming through brand deals and partnerships that the players do, the larger the following and fan interaction, the larger the payout. not impossible, I just think unlikely she was offered anything big in terms of NIL as an unproven highschooler
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Post by cbrown1709 on Oct 30, 2023 21:17:00 GMT -5
One thing I was noticing about our blocking. It seemed before when the middles weren't going to close the block, the pins made good decisions on adjusting hands. We didn't seem to make those adjustments this past weekend.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 30, 2023 21:17:45 GMT -5
AND, perhaps, some NIL $weetener. definitely a possibility. but with volleyball, the reality is only a handful of players are making anything worthy of making a 4 year commitment to a school, and very slim chance a freshman is guaranteed any 'good' money immediately through NIL. most of the cash is coming through brand deals and partnerships that the players do, the larger the following and fan interaction, the larger the payout. not impossible, I just think unlikely she was offered anything big in terms of NIL as an unproven highschooler Well, to be perfectly honest, I was adding a hypothetical onto the other hypotheticals (warm weather, family, etc.) you and others wrote about. To my mind...having been recruited...I would want to go to the best opportunity for academics, student culture and a chance to compete for championships....Not This.
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Post by stanfordvb on Oct 30, 2023 21:29:11 GMT -5
definitely a possibility. but with volleyball, the reality is only a handful of players are making anything worthy of making a 4 year commitment to a school, and very slim chance a freshman is guaranteed any 'good' money immediately through NIL. most of the cash is coming through brand deals and partnerships that the players do, the larger the following and fan interaction, the larger the payout. not impossible, I just think unlikely she was offered anything big in terms of NIL as an unproven highschooler I would want to go to the best opportunity for academics, student culture and a chance to compete for championships....Not This. im in agreement with you, but everyone has different priorities. Madi skinner was ready to give up being on an elite team as she was leaning towards the LA schools before texas convinced her to take a visit. her reasoning was majority based on wanting to be in a big city. USC checks a lot of boxes except for being highly ranked, maybe that just wasn't a big priority to her. clearly usc is selling themselves well as they've gotten multiple recruits with tons of top 10 interest in their last few classes. like I said, I have the same mindset as you here but she's not the first top recruit that hasn't ended up at a big program and won't be the last
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 30, 2023 22:12:30 GMT -5
I would want to go to the best opportunity for academics, student culture and a chance to compete for championships....Not This. im in agreement with you, but everyone has different priorities. Madi skinner was ready to give up being on an elite team as she was leaning towards the LA schools before texas convinced her to take a visit. her reasoning was majority based on wanting to be in a big city. USC checks a lot of boxes except for being highly ranked, maybe that just wasn't a big priority to her. clearly usc is selling themselves well as they've gotten multiple recruits with tons of top 10 interest in their last few classes. like I said, I have the same mindset as you here but she's not the first top recruit that hasn't ended up at a big program and won't be the last Right on! Yeah, I was going over copies of paperwork from my recruitment days recently...it just was such a life-changing event! Family involved; coaches involved (high school, who contacted college coach; Coach J, who offered me the NLI my 1st year); girlfriend involved (then uninvolved ). Changin' times!
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