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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 8, 2012 16:51:03 GMT -5
Body type can matter, it seems to me. Taller players with longer arms tend to be at a disadvantage when passing. There's a reason most liberos and DS's are shorter. But, tall players with long arms and legs also have more reach thus cover more court. Kind of a wash. Sent from my MB860 using ProBoards
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Post by midnightblue on Jul 8, 2012 16:52:46 GMT -5
Every single player selected has either won, or played in a title match, except for Lindsey Berg. I guess you are counting Miyashiro being on the roster for UW in 2005, even though she was redshirting and didn't play at all that year. Right, but she was still a part of the team at won.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jul 8, 2012 19:33:36 GMT -5
Body type can matter, it seems to me. Taller players with longer arms tend to be at a disadvantage when passing. There's a reason most liberos and DS's are shorter. But, tall players with long arms and legs also have more reach thus cover more court. Kind of a wash. Sent from my MB860 using ProBoards And the longer legs more than cancel out the longer arms. When it comes to covering ground laterally, I'd put my money on Miyashiro over Hodge or Klineman.
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Post by lonewolf on Jul 8, 2012 20:09:51 GMT -5
Body type can matter, it seems to me. Taller players with longer arms tend to be at a disadvantage when passing. There's a reason most liberos and DS's are shorter. And the fact that being short makes it harder to be an attacker, thus they would spend more time and focus on passing/d...and not have as much time doing split skills has nothing to do with it? Being taller (in of itself) is not a disadvantage. Are there tall players that don't move as quickly as shorter players? Sure..however: A) They don't have to move as quickly as they cover more area B) There are also short players that don't move as well
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Post by lonewolf on Jul 8, 2012 20:12:19 GMT -5
But, tall players with long arms and legs also have more reach thus cover more court. Kind of a wash. Sent from my MB860 using ProBoards And the longer legs more than cancel out the longer arms. When it comes to covering ground laterally, I'd put my money on Miyashiro over Hodge or Klineman. Because Klineman is a whole 1.5-2" taller than Hodge?
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Post by Jack on Jul 8, 2012 22:13:49 GMT -5
Because Klineman is a whole 1.5-2" taller than Hodge? I've always wanted to see Klineman and Chrissie Zartman pair up for a three legged potato sack race.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jul 8, 2012 22:56:03 GMT -5
Body type can matter, it seems to me. Taller players with longer arms tend to be at a disadvantage when passing. There's a reason most liberos and DS's are shorter. And the fact that being short makes it harder to be an attacker, thus they would spend more time and focus on passing/d...and not have as much time doing split skills has nothing to do with it? Being taller (in of itself) is not a disadvantage. Are there tall players that don't move as quickly as shorter players? Sure..however: A) They don't have to move as quickly as they cover more area B) There are also short players that don't move as well Stanford, according to another thread, has recruited a 6'8" player - according to your logic, there's no reason she won't make a great libero.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 0:05:25 GMT -5
Body type can matter, it seems to me. Taller players with longer arms tend to be at a disadvantage when passing. There's a reason most liberos and DS's are shorter. There is no proof that this is true. There are several examples of very tall players who are very able to control the ball well. Liberos and DSs are generally shorter because it's a position where height (arguably) doesn't matter, not because being under 5'10" makes your tracking ability better.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 0:07:21 GMT -5
And the fact that being short makes it harder to be an attacker, thus they would spend more time and focus on passing/d...and not have as much time doing split skills has nothing to do with it? Being taller (in of itself) is not a disadvantage. Are there tall players that don't move as quickly as shorter players? Sure..however: A) They don't have to move as quickly as they cover more area B) There are also short players that don't move as well Stanford, according to another thread, has recruited a 6'8" player - according to your logic, there's no reason she won't make a great libero. You're saying that height is the only factor in determining who will and won't make a good libero. If this 6'8" player had just as many reception attempts and training during her career as a highly-recruited libero, then yes, she should certainly be able to control the ball.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 9, 2012 0:15:13 GMT -5
The main reason you aren't going to see many tall liberos is not really because they can't play back row. It's because they are probably too valuable in the front row to put them in a position where they only play back row. Logan Tom, for instance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 0:24:42 GMT -5
The main reason you aren't going to see many tall liberos is not really because they can't play back row. It's because they are probably too valuable in the front row to put them in a position where they only play back row. Logan Tom, for instance. That's not why Logan is playing in the front row. It's certainly not her hitting. Hugh has two and a half years of very subpar hitting stats from Logan Tom.
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Post by deacondive on Jul 9, 2012 6:12:38 GMT -5
Well he also has 3 years of subpar passing from Hodge...
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Post by lonewolf on Jul 9, 2012 7:04:51 GMT -5
And the fact that being short makes it harder to be an attacker, thus they would spend more time and focus on passing/d...and not have as much time doing split skills has nothing to do with it? Being taller (in of itself) is not a disadvantage. Are there tall players that don't move as quickly as shorter players? Sure..however: A) They don't have to move as quickly as they cover more area B) There are also short players that don't move as well Stanford, according to another thread, has recruited a 6'8" player - according to your logic, there's no reason she won't make a great libero. As with your original premise, your conclusion is faulty logic. Based on what I've said, my logic would state that the height of their incoming player is not the reason she would not make a great libero. People make faulty assumptions without paying attention to the statistics. Proportionally it's just as likely that there are as many "quick" 6'3" players as there are "quick 5'4" players. However, it doesn't seem so as there are far fewer 6'3", and (especially in sports like volleyball) a slower 6'3" player is still 6'3" and has perks that can make her attractive to vball coaches, while a slower 5'4" player has less so and is driven from the sport.
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Post by lonewolf on Jul 9, 2012 7:07:17 GMT -5
The main reason you aren't going to see many tall liberos is not really because they can't play back row. It's because they are probably too valuable in the front row to put them in a position where they only play back row. Logan Tom, for instance. That's not why Logan is playing in the front row. It's certainly not her hitting. Hugh has two and a half years of very subpar hitting stats from Logan Tom. Her hitting is good at worst (and even then still as good as most other options if not better). Also don't forget that front row also includes, blocking, and Logan also does pretty well at that.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 9, 2012 7:46:15 GMT -5
On the men's side, Richie Lambourne is 6'3". Are you saying he is too tall?
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