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Post by azvb on Aug 6, 2012 13:47:28 GMT -5
I know the USOC pays for medals. Does taking that money make one a professional athlete? These teenage swimmers who won medals-can they take that money and still compete in high school/college? Can their picture be on a Wheaties box?
Just watched the Men's badminton final between Malaysa and China. China won and the Malaysian was devastated. His country was offering $300,000 for a gold in badminton.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 6, 2012 14:49:15 GMT -5
You would have to ask the NCAA, but I think it probably would violate the NCAA rules to get paid a reward for anything that was due only to their athletic competition.
I do think it is possible to be a professional in one sport but still be NCAA-eligible in another sport, but that's also something you should ask the NCAA to confirm.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 6, 2012 14:57:11 GMT -5
fs.ncaa.org/Docs/AMA/compliance_forms/DI/DI%20Summary%20of%20NCAA%20Regulations.pdfBottom line seems to be that if you won a prize which was more than your actual expenses for that event, you are ineligible. You could be on the Wheaties box as long as you didn't get paid for it after you have become a student-athlete. And if you are professional in one sport, you could still be eligible in another. The exception is that if you get a sinecure job because of your athletics, you are then ineligible in any sport.
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Post by MarsH on Aug 6, 2012 15:02:34 GMT -5
Bottom line seems to be that if you won a prize which was more than your actual expenses for that event, you are ineligible. You can win as long as you do not accept the prize, right?
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 6, 2012 15:04:10 GMT -5
Bottom line seems to be that if you won a prize which was more than your actual expenses for that event, you are ineligible. You can win as long as you do not accept the prize, right? Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's no problem.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 6, 2012 16:31:06 GMT -5
I know the USOC pays for medals. Does taking that money make one a professional athlete? These teenage swimmers who won medals-can they take that money and still compete in high school/college? Can their picture be on a Wheaties box? Just watched the Men's badminton final between Malaysa and China. China won and the Malaysian was devastated. His country was offering $300,000 for a gold in badminton. Are there scholarships for badminton?
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Post by OverAndUnder on Aug 6, 2012 21:19:58 GMT -5
What's the difference between being given a gold medal physically worth hundreds or even many thousands of dollars, and being actually given hundreds or even thousands of dollars? A car isn't cash either, but if Sarita Spiker won a car in a summer volleyball tournament and then in Fall returned to Eastern Sunset University's volleyball team wouldn't that be an NCAA violation?
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Post by leftcoaster71 on Aug 6, 2012 21:46:54 GMT -5
What's the difference between being given a gold medal physically worth hundreds or even many thousands of dollars, and being actually given hundreds or even thousands of dollars? A car isn't cash either, but if Sarita Spiker won a car in a summer volleyball tournament and then in Fall returned to Eastern Sunset University's volleyball team wouldn't that be an NCAA violation? Back in the day when I ran doubles tournaments, college players were not allowed to accept any prizes from us.
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Post by NET2 on Aug 6, 2012 21:53:55 GMT -5
Swimmer Missy Franklin, who is 17 years old, will accept no prize money because it might affect her high school &/or college eligibility.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Aug 6, 2012 23:33:33 GMT -5
Sure, but an Olympic medal is a prize that has a tangible monetary value. How can anyone accept an Olympic medal - forget the prize money, just the medal - and return to NCAA in that sport?
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Post by geddyleemarvin on Aug 7, 2012 0:01:42 GMT -5
What's a London gold medal worth? A whopping $620 bucks. www.npr.org/blogs/thetorch/2012/08/01/157720030/whats-a-gold-medal-really-worthNaturally, if an athlete were to put up a medal for auction, the return would be much greater than the actual value of the gold in the medal, but the medal itself wouldn't yield a significant amount of cash if one were to melt it down and retrieve the precious metals.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Aug 7, 2012 0:20:50 GMT -5
Yep, some medals are worth more than others. Phelp's last few medals - as record-breakers - would auction for considerably more than every shot put medal combined.
So if an athlete wins a tournament and the prize is a $620 gift card to Amazon.com, can that athlete return to NCAA play in the same sport?
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 7, 2012 0:58:02 GMT -5
Yep, some medals are worth more than others. Phelp's last few medals - as record-breakers - would auction for considerably more than every shot put medal combined. So if an athlete wins a tournament and the prize is a $620 gift card to Amazon.com, can that athlete return to NCAA play in the same sport? Yes, as long as their actual expenses for entering the tournament were greater than $620. But I assume there is some sort of exception in the NCAA rules for participating in National Team activities, and that probably includes getting medals (but maybe doesn't include getting the USOC medal bonus $?). Ask the NCAA if you really care.
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Post by volleyballhawk on Aug 7, 2012 2:35:16 GMT -5
You guys are trying to split hairs. NCAA Championship teams, in many different sports, often get rings from their athletic department. Football teams who go to bowl games get a bunch of goodies (Ipods, etc)... This is the equivalent of receiving a medal. Though a NCAA championship ring has monetary value, it's not going to make an athlete ineligible. Just like receiving a gold medal isn't going to make an athlete ineligible. You just can't take $$$. Now, there probably does exist a maximum value of a reward that an NCAA athlete can receive, but it's going to be significantly more than the $620 value of a medal.
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Post by Pallavolo on Aug 7, 2012 5:08:44 GMT -5
But I assume there is some sort of exception in the NCAA rules for participating in National Team activities, and that probably includes getting medals (but maybe doesn't include getting the USOC medal bonus $?). Ask the NCAA if you really care. I agree. I would be surprised if medal bonus would be allowed without violating eligibility. I think it would be similar to the FIVB prize money in tournaments. Per policy, players have a share in the winnings but if you want to maintain college eligibility, better know what you can and cannot accept.
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