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Post by OptimusPrime on Dec 15, 2012 15:58:27 GMT -5
Let this be one for those who want to express their symphony with the families and friends of the innocent lives lost. I understand the rules of VT, but the underlying concept behind this request is flawed. The idea that out of respect for the current victims we shouldn't talk about how to prevent future victims is one reason why we continue to have future victims. Are we just intentionally ignoring my first sentence? I didn't say don't discuss gun control, I simply requested to take the convo where it belongs. In the political thread not the Obituary! Moderator note: I agree take the gun control conversation to the political forum.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 17:24:39 GMT -5
They were all 6 years old.
This pains me more than I can ever express ...
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Post by Thrill of the 'ville on Dec 15, 2012 20:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 21:43:35 GMT -5
just saw this on facebook: wear yellow and blue on monday.
those are sandy hook elementary's school colors...
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Post by sevb on Dec 16, 2012 3:44:47 GMT -5
just saw this on facebook: wear yellow and blue on monday. those are sandy hook elementary's school colors... Pretty sure they are green and white
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 13:32:59 GMT -5
idk. saw it on facebook. gotta be true. seriously, i know you said that you have connections to the community, so i appreciate the correction.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 22:10:53 GMT -5
the words of a wise person -- mike huckabee:
"I’ve said some controversial things from time to time, but none which prompted such a backlash as when I stated that the horrific shooting in CT of school children and teachers couldn’t be blamed on God because we’ve systematically marginalized God out of our culture by removing Him from all aspects of the public square. The vicious attacks that have resulted, most of all of which are based on total ignorance of what I actually said have actually validated my point, but I’m quite certain that was not the intent of both the professional and amateur critics who have demanded everything from my being banned from ever speaking in public again, or wished me a slow and painful death. On that alone, I wish to acknowledge that the left has again shown that it defines tolerance and diversity as being tolerant only of that with which it agrees, and diverse only to include slight shades of the orthodoxy of liberalism to which they adhere. They abhor censorship of their own profanity, obscenities, or graphic violence, but are the first to demand that a voice that invokes the name of God to be silenced. A specific act of violence is rarely the result of a specific single act of a culture that prompts it. In other words, I would never say that simply taking prayer and Bible reading from our institutions or silencing Christmas carols is the direct cause of a mass murder. That would be ludicrous and simplistic. But the cause and effect we see in the dramatic changes of what our children are capable of is a part of a cultural shift from a God-centered culture to a self-centered culture. We have glorified uninhibited self-expression and individualism and are shocked that we have a generation of loners. We have insisted on a society where everyone gets a trophy and no one loses and act surprised that so many kids lack self-esteem and feel like losers. We dismiss the notion of natural law and the notion that there are moral absolutes and seemed amazed when some kids make it their own morality to kill innocent children. We diminish and even hold in contempt the natural family of a father and mother creating and then responsibly raising the next generation and then express dismay that kids feel no real connection to their families or even the concept of a family. We scoff at the need for mothers and fathers to make it their priority to train their children to be strong in spirit and soul and responsible for right and wrong and exalt instead the virtue of having things and providing expensive toys, games, and electronics that substitute for parenting and then don’t understand why our kids would rather have ear buds dangling from their ears, fingers attaching to a smart phone, and face attached to a computer screen than to have an extended conversation with their family at dinner. And we don’t teach them there is a Creator God who sets immutable rules, a God who is knowable, and to whom we are ultimately responsible. Instead we teach that God was not involved in our origins, that our very lives are biological happenstances and in fact are disposable should they be inconvenient to us, and that any outrageous behaviors are not sin, but disorders for which we should be excused and accommodated. I realize my viewpoint sounds out-dated and archaic, but when that world view was the foundation of our nation’s social contract, we got in trouble at school for talking in class, chewing gum, pulling a girl’s pigtails, or slouching in our school desks. We took guns to school, to be sure, but they were in the gun racks of our trucks and we used them to hunt before and after school. It never occurred to us to use them to murder our teachers and fellow students. So yes, I can stand the contempt and criticism of the left. I’ll gladly accept their scorn as they substitute creative language with a steady stream of profanity-laced tirades that I’m an idiot, a throwback to the past, and a person who should be forever silenced. But when we as a nation feared God, we didn’t fear that a 20 year old with a high powered rifle would gun down our children in their schoolrooms."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 22:42:07 GMT -5
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Post by rockhopper on Dec 17, 2012 1:03:15 GMT -5
just saw this on facebook: wear yellow and blue on monday. those are sandy hook elementary's school colors... Pretty sure they are green and white Also heard green and white. SEVB has close ties so I believe him/her.
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Post by Thrill of the 'ville on Dec 17, 2012 8:21:23 GMT -5
Pretty sure they are green and white Also heard green and white. SEVB has close ties so I believe him/her. It's green and white. It is in their school song.
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Post by future on Dec 17, 2012 9:07:33 GMT -5
Might be one of the best ways to help For anyone wanting to contribute to funeral and other costs for the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting on Friday. Here is the info for donations: United Way of Western CT has set up a fund to donate directly to families for funerals and to supply for the needs of the community. Here is the link to the United Way donation page newtown.uwwesternct.org/Check donations may be mailed to: Sandy Hook School Support Fund c/o Newtown Savings Bank 39 Main Street, Newtown CT 06470 For questions about your check donation or donations within local Newtown Savings Bank branches, please call 800-461-0672.
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Dec 17, 2012 18:48:08 GMT -5
Thank you for those links. The first one with the mother was so painful. Can you imagine having a child that is a serious threat not only to you but to your other children? What the heck can you do? If you have a lot of money you might be able to get long term psych hospitalization, but if not...? In all probability, her child really doesn't have control of his behavior either. However, that doesn't change the results.
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Post by azvb on Dec 17, 2012 20:57:44 GMT -5
I have been so sad since this happened. Can't snap out of it. Worried for the world my grand kids will inherit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 13:13:21 GMT -5
I have been so sad since this happened. Can't snap out of it. Worried for the world my grand kids will inherit. I'm worried for my grandchildren as well...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 19:05:34 GMT -5
And then today's headline:
"States eye allowing concealed carry of guns without a permit"
Do we have ANY chance? Is the USA too far gone?
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