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Post by utexrulz23 on Aug 26, 2013 22:49:21 GMT -5
Is there any footage online from this weekend?
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Post by Lauren on Aug 26, 2013 23:13:07 GMT -5
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Post by tempesthorn on Aug 26, 2013 23:20:02 GMT -5
Collins as a setter in a 5 - 1 would be disastrous. If our players after 2 weeks of practice are hitting over her and defending her left handed attacks, what will Penn State, Stanford, etc do? And rationalizing a sub par performance on a setting clinic is silly. Elliott would never accept that. Just hope they are tired of playing each other. I think equally as silly is being that critical of a freshman in her first appearance in a fall scrimmage. I didn't see many opportunities for her to have an effective left handed attack because the pass wasn't there. Laying that totally on her and saying they are now defending her attacks and writing her off this early in the season? WOW.
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 26, 2013 23:25:05 GMT -5
Collins as a setter in a 5 - 1 would be disastrous. If our players after 2 weeks of practice are hitting over her and defending her left handed attacks, what will Penn State, Stanford, etc do? And rationalizing a sub par performance on a setting clinic is silly. Elliott would never accept that. Just hope they are tired of playing each other. I think equally as silly is being that critical of a freshman in her first appearance in a fall scrimmage. I didn't see many opportunities for her to have an effective left handed attack because the pass wasn't there. Laying that totally on her and saying they are now defending her attacks and writing her off this early in the season? WOW. I think we saw that her height is a big, big disadvantage on the front row. I don't think that is a surprise to most. blaming the passing? WOW.
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Post by herdmentality on Aug 26, 2013 23:43:46 GMT -5
Elevation. Why are you such a Collins hater? You will eat your words one day.
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 27, 2013 0:14:34 GMT -5
Elevation. Why are you such a Collins hater? You will eat your words one day. Hater? Wow. Some of you are starting to remind me of aggies and their irrational comments on anyone questioning Johnny Manziel.
I have made it clear I think Collins is a very talented setter. My comments were clearly in the context of her setting on the front row in a 5-1 rotation. Anyone who watched the scrimmage could clearly see that 1) our hitters were easily hitting over her over and over again and 2) that her left handed hitting attack was easily defensed.
So yes, I am concerned about her lack of "volleyball height."
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Post by herdmentality on Aug 27, 2013 0:32:50 GMT -5
Elevation. Why are you such a Collins hater? You will eat your words one day. Hater? Wow. Some of you are starting to remind me of aggies and their irrational comments on anyone questioning Johnny Manziel.
I have made it clear I think Collins is a very talented setter. My comments were clearly in the context of her setting on the front row in a 5-1 rotation. Anyone who watched the scrimmage could clearly see that 1) our hitters were easily hitting over her over and over again and 2) that her left handed hitting attack was easily defensed.
So yes, I am concerned about her lack of "volleyball height."
I did not see the scrimmage, but I caught several of your matches last year and not so much Eck, but Webster easily hit over majority of setters last year. With respect to offensive threat it's not just about scoring as someone else pointed out earlier, but its about keeping the middles and rest of defense honest. This will create more opportunities for pin hitters and eventually lead to a higher hitting percentage. I'm a big fan of athletic setters and Collins is one of my favorites. I think they're great for the game. Best of luck Chloe.
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Post by serveitup10 on Aug 27, 2013 2:21:33 GMT -5
hardmentality beat me to it. Look who she is playing against. Eckerman and Webster are going to hit over the majority of the setters they play against. But, even with that being said, she is going to be at a clear disadvantage standing only at 5'7". It is wrong to bash her on the fact that Eckerman and Webster were hitting over her in their scrimmage, but I don't foresee Collins starting this year, and I am sure that Texas volleyball does not either.
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Post by tempesthorn on Aug 27, 2013 7:41:29 GMT -5
Elevation. Why are you such a Collins hater? You will eat your words one day. Hater? Wow. Some of you are starting to remind me of aggies and their irrational comments on anyone questioning Johnny Manziel.
I have made it clear I think Collins is a very talented setter. My comments were clearly in the context of her setting on the front row in a 5-1 rotation. Anyone who watched the scrimmage could clearly see that 1) our hitters were easily hitting over her over and over again and 2) that her left handed hitting attack was easily defensed.
So yes, I am concerned about her lack of "volleyball height."
Hater? Absolutely. It goes beyond just being concerned about someone's height when you start questioning why they were offered and suggesting another player should have been given an offer instead. Especially when the player hasn't even competed in a single collegiate match yet. Not cool. And just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them irrational. People defending Collins who hasn't even played a set yet and has no off the court issues vs aggies defending a Heisman trophy winner with numerous off the court issues. Yeah that's the same thing, great analogy.
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 27, 2013 9:07:23 GMT -5
hardmentality beat me to it. Look who she is playing against. Eckerman and Webster are going to hit over the majority of the setters they play against. But, even with that being said, she is going to be at a clear disadvantage standing only at 5'7". It is wrong to bash her on the fact that Eckerman and Webster were hitting over her in their scrimmage, but I don't foresee Collins starting this year, and I am sure that Texas volleyball does not either. unfortunately, it wasn't just eckerman and webster.
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 27, 2013 9:11:26 GMT -5
Hater? Wow. Some of you are starting to remind me of aggies and their irrational comments on anyone questioning Johnny Manziel.
I have made it clear I think Collins is a very talented setter. My comments were clearly in the context of her setting on the front row in a 5-1 rotation. Anyone who watched the scrimmage could clearly see that 1) our hitters were easily hitting over her over and over again and 2) that her left handed hitting attack was easily defensed.
So yes, I am concerned about her lack of "volleyball height."
Hater? Absolutely. It goes beyond just being concerned about someone's height when you start questioning why they were offered and suggesting another player should have been given an offer instead. Especially when the player hasn't even competed in a single collegiate match yet. Not cool. And just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them irrational. People defending Collins who hasn't even played a set yet and has no off the court issues vs aggies defending a Heisman trophy winner with numerous off the court issues. Yeah that's the same thing, great analogy. Yes it is irrational, when "hater" is used. And aggies as in blind loyalty and getting defensive over anything said questioning their QB. Kind of like your post. And I did not question her being offered. Go back and review and read the post I was responding to and I suggest you and others read "in context".
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Aug 27, 2013 9:53:47 GMT -5
Hater? Absolutely. It goes beyond just being concerned about someone's height when you start questioning why they were offered and suggesting another player should have been given an offer instead. Especially when the player hasn't even competed in a single collegiate match yet. Not cool. And just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them irrational. People defending Collins who hasn't even played a set yet and has no off the court issues vs aggies defending a Heisman trophy winner with numerous off the court issues. Yeah that's the same thing, great analogy. Yes it is irrational, when "hater" is used. And aggies as in blind loyalty and getting defensive over anything said questioning their QB. Kind of like your post. And I did not question her being offered. Go back and review and read the post I was responding to and I suggest you and others read "in context". This is for elevationvb
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Post by elevationvb on Aug 27, 2013 10:32:40 GMT -5
Yes it is irrational, when "hater" is used. And aggies as in blind loyalty and getting defensive over anything said questioning their QB. Kind of like your post. And I did not question her being offered. Go back and review and read the post I was responding to and I suggest you and others read "in context". This is for elevationvb Your post makes no sense. Hook'em.
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Post by southie on Aug 27, 2013 11:10:03 GMT -5
Stop trying to ruin the 2013 pre-season for me by worrying about 2014 and beyond already!
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Post by tempesthorn on Aug 27, 2013 13:23:15 GMT -5
Name? Hope I'm overreacting, but right now I'm not happy we let A&M get Aiple when she wanted to come to Texas. How is this not to be construed as why did we offer Collins when we could have had Aiple? I think we all get the context you meant.
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