Final Trojan Bracketology (all matches concluded)

[goingtotask]

Coming from a BCS school, this is probably going to sound elitist which is absolutely is not meant to be.

I understand that the NCAA has had this 400 mile radius this for sending teams, but do teams really bus that far for an NCAA tournament? Assuming 2 breaks for either a meal and/or gasoline, we're looking at 9 hour travel time.

Even, for example Arkansas, from a BCS school. Would they really bus their team to say Lincoln?

Any insight on this?

[FreeBall]

Nov 29, 2013 4:38:16 GMT -5 cdizzle said:

Not that I have issues with your overall seeds, but I don't see Stanford getting that Round 1 and 2. Stanford's not going to sent East in the first round, and they're not going to send three teams to California from as far out as New Hampshire, Central Arkansas, and Michigan State. Remember how important it is for the committee to keep travel miles down--it's the primary thing that screws up all of these honest attempts at putting together brackets.

 The travel restrictions are not really applied in the manner you imply within your post.

[FreeBall]

Nov 29, 2013 7:59:00 GMT -5 goingtotask said:

I understand that the NCAA has had this 400 mile radius this for sending teams, but do teams really bus that far for an NCAA tournament? Assuming 2 breaks for either a meal and/or gasoline, we're looking at 9 hour travel time.

Even, for example Arkansas, from a BCS school. Would they really bus their team to say Lincoln?

Any insight on this?

You are using a poor example, since Arkansas is more than 400 miles from Lincoln. However, it's my understanding that a team within 400 miles always has the option of flying. But, the only reimbursement they get from the NCAA is the cost of the bus trip. The additional expense involved in flying is the responsibility of the school.

[goingtotask]

Perhaps a bad example, although there has been some mention of the 400 mile radius being slightly extended, and with Fayetteville 429 miles from Lincoln, I used this as an example.

Next time, I'll try to locate a schools 399 miles apart so to eliminate one reply. I see Tulsa is 396 miles to Lincoln.

Thank you for answering what was the question posed.

[trojansc]

Updated bracket... Think the geographic pairings are better now.. Didn't change any at-larges except moving ASU in and UCLA out.. I got a random feeling to do it.. We'll see..

also added LSU's resume to the bubble teams.. they are #34 right now but after losing to Ole miss... and I don't think they'll beat Alabama.. The committee may opt for a higher RPI team with more impressive victories..

[coloradokidd]

Looking at how your 16 seeded teams are adjusted. Just wondering about your thoughts on how #18 Duke ends up at #15. Regards

[vbnerd]

Arkansas cannot go to Missouri. They are both in the SEC.

[tibetboy]

This is really good stuff. Is there any way of breaking down to 60 losses as opposed to 150 losses since only Alabama has one.

Has anyone done a head to head or common opponent for the bubble teams. It looks like Xavier and a few others have some common opponents.

[trojansc]

Updated Final Bracketology..

The at-large decisions were really hard. But I went with my gut.

What do you guys think?

My seedings and pairings will probably be off, last year I was focusing more on the at-large bids anyway.

I was 64/64 last year on at-larges.. hoping I called it right again this year? Really not sure on Miami / Colorado. I went out ona limb with my gut feeling.

[southie]

Illinois and Nebraska both hosting; can't be in the same regional.

[trojansc]

Dec 1, 2013 1:44:25 GMT -5 southie said:

Illinois and Nebraska both hosting; can't be in the same regional.

Couldn't decide where to put Nebraska.

I don't want to pair Nebraska / PSU / Minnesota all in one regional, and I don't think the committee will do that. Seedings unpredictable after four, to be honest. I think a lot of subregionals will look close to what I predicted.

[herdmentality]

Dec 1, 2013 1:41:06 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Updated Final Bracketology..

The at-large decisions were really hard. But I went with my gut.

What do you guys think?

My seedings and pairings will probably be off, last year I was focusing more on the at-large bids anyway.

I was 64/64 last year on at-larges.. hoping I called it right again this year? Really not sure on Miami / Colorado. I went out ona limb with my gut feeling.

I agree with you on UCLA being out and it's not to reassure you cause of the trojan background.

[trojansc]

Dec 1, 2013 1:56:51 GMT -5 herdmentality said:

Dec 1, 2013 1:41:06 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Updated Final Bracketology..

The at-large decisions were really hard. But I went with my gut.

What do you guys think?

My seedings and pairings will probably be off, last year I was focusing more on the at-large bids anyway.

I was 64/64 last year on at-larges.. hoping I called it right again this year? Really not sure on Miami / Colorado. I went out ona limb with my gut feeling.

I agree with you on UCLA being out and it's not to reassure you cause of the trojan background.

i'm hurting from that football loss tonight... ucla not getting into the tournament will make that feel a little better tomorrow.

[baywatcher]

Your criticism of St. Mary's is failing to schedule out of conference. The Gaels wins over Colorado, Miami and Iowa State are all better than most any many of the SEC candidates can come up with, while splitting with BYU and San Diego (nobody could get a win off of Missouri or Florida from outside that twsome) and St. Mary's played (and lost to) Nebraska, Stanford, Colorado again, and Dayton. Arkansas, Alabama, LSU, Texas A & M, and Georgia don't come close to this scheduling. Yet because they play each other, maybe just once, and nobody else they get in? St. Mary's lost too many matches to Pepperdine, LMU, San Francisco and so won't go, but it's not due to weak scheduling.

[baywatcher]

Nov 29, 2013 7:59:00 GMT -5 goingtotask said:

Coming from a BCS school, this is probably going to sound elitist which is absolutely is not meant to be.

I understand that the NCAA has had this 400 mile radius this for sending teams, but do teams really bus that far for an NCAA tournament? Assuming 2 breaks for either a meal and/or gasoline, we're looking at 9 hour travel time.

Even, for example Arkansas, from a BCS school. Would they really bus their team to say Lincoln?

Any insight on this?

My understanding is that's all the NCAA will pay for. In calculating costs for youth group trips, it can cost almost as much for a bus for 20 as it costs to fly; if you could supplement the fee I can see somebody flying from the Bay Area to LA. However, it's really a 6-7 hour drive, and by the time you get to the airport, wait, fly, then go to your hotel it's maybe a 3 hour difference, at most.