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Texas 2014
Jul 28, 2014 23:16:05 GMT -5
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Post by texasnewbie on Jul 28, 2014 23:16:05 GMT -5
She played all three sets for the USC game, I think 2-3 sets for Michigan, and the last set for Oregon. With bailey hitting about a 500 clip for the tournament, Elliott would bring in Nicole for passing and defense since Haley's back row attack was t needed. Agreed. She was a decent role player as a freshman.
But her play was not special or instrumental to winning the championship. Ummm her defense was great for a freshman and for being 6-2 she had some great digs against USC which in turn out Texas in Kentucky. Be mindful that Nicole was playing on 2 bad hip injuries and had two surgeries following the NC's so I advise you that until you know what that feels like to play injured as she did and play D1 ball then I'd shut it. I'm finding a lot of people on here can't stand you and your stupid comments. Agree with austex all you want but Nicole played a huge part in their title win. BROOKS? LOL!
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Post by elevationvb on Jul 28, 2014 23:22:05 GMT -5
She didn't play much in the Oregon match, if at all. I think just a couple of sets against Michigan. Also USC and Florida and did a tremendous job after Eckerman was being singled out on serve during the A&M set loss in the second round. She had a much bigger role than you make her out to have. I was at the Florida and USC matches. I would hardly describe her play as tremendous. Like I said, she was a decent role player as a freshman. And of course she contributed to the team - - but she was not instrumental to the team winning a national championship as she was described. There is a huge difference between contributing and being instrumental to winning a national championship. For example, Sarah Palmer's play against Michigan was instrumental.
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Post by elevationvb on Jul 28, 2014 23:25:03 GMT -5
Agreed. She was a decent role player as a freshman.
But her play was not special or instrumental to winning the championship. Ummm her defense was great for a freshman and for being 6-2 she had some great digs against USC which in turn out Texas in Kentucky. Be mindful that Nicole was playing on 2 bad hip injuries and had two surgeries following the NC's so I advise you that until you know what that feels like to play injured as she did and play D1 ball then I'd shut it. I'm finding a lot of people on here can't stand you and your stupid comments. Agree with austex all you want but Nicole played a huge part in their title win. BROOKS? LOL! Please count to 10 and take a deep breath because you're starting to get emotional and personal again. I guess you didn't notice that I raised the issue of injuries possibly impacting her play as a freshman.
Now, still waiting for you to back up or clarify your comments about Brooks being on scholarship at Texas.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jul 29, 2014 0:02:15 GMT -5
Also USC and Florida and did a tremendous job after Eckerman was being singled out on serve during the A&M set loss in the second round. She had a much bigger role than you make her out to have. I was at the Florida and USC matches. I would hardly describe her play as tremendous. Like I said, she was a decent role player as a freshman. And of course she contributed to the team - - but she was not instrumental to the team winning a national championship as she was described. There is a huge difference between contributing and being instrumental to winning a national championship. For example, Sarah Palmer's play against Michigan was instrumental. As was I and I absolutely think she solidified the backcourt. She might not have been "instrumental" as you describe it, but she was much more than a decent role player.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 29, 2014 7:40:05 GMT -5
I think that is quite a stretch to think Texas doesn't win the national championship without the contribution of Dalton. She had her moments as a freshman - positive and negative. Hopefully she will be one of those players you listed who develop into a top player. Same goes for Collins. Kocher was at the right place at the right time. It's too bad she could not be the type of leader to lead the team on the court. Of course following Moriarty wasn't easy. And McCage is a good example of a player who is developing into a top player - like Paolini. Nothing McCage did last season indicated that she was "developing into a top player." That being said, that's all on Jerritt. She runs a great slide, but never got a chance to do that least year. And don't even go there about Kocher. You have no idea what you're talking about. Although her slide is great, McCage didn't hit in front of the setter. Part of that is passing. Much of it was setting. You'll see a much better player without Hannah Allison setting her. I cannot begin to describe how awful she was, particularly as it pertained to a fast offense and connecting with her MHs. Not quite sure she is developing into Paolini, but time will tell.
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Post by southie on Jul 29, 2014 8:58:41 GMT -5
Please just stop. It's as if you are going out of your way to down-play the contributions several players made during the tourney run. There was no one else with Nicole's ball control to bring in and stabilize things when Eckerman was struggling. She did her job, and did it very well so that Texas could run a good play and side out. Look, you're the one who says Texas could not have won the national championship without the play of Dalton. I disagree. Her play in the semis and finals was not instrumental to winning the title. I don't have any problem with you feeling otherwise.
I never said the semi's or final. I stated "the tourney". In the second round game, A&M was serving us off the court in the second set until Dalton came in to sub for Eckerman.
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Post by elevationvb on Jul 29, 2014 10:37:24 GMT -5
Look, you're the one who says Texas could not have won the national championship without the play of Dalton. I disagree. Her play in the semis and finals was not instrumental to winning the title. I don't have any problem with you feeling otherwise.
I never said the semi's or final. I stated "the tourney". In the second round game, A&M was serving us off the court in the second set until Dalton came in to sub for Eckerman. It was A&M and one off game. Texas was not going to lose that match. Just like we were not going to lose to A&M this past season after losing 1 bad game again to A&M. And good for Dalton coming in and playing her role and playing it well. But she was not instrumental to winning the national championship.
I hope she is healthy now and can continue her good play from the spring. We will need her this season.
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Post by elevationvb on Jul 29, 2014 10:40:05 GMT -5
I was at the Florida and USC matches. I would hardly describe her play as tremendous. Like I said, she was a decent role player as a freshman. And of course she contributed to the team - - but she was not instrumental to the team winning a national championship as she was described. There is a huge difference between contributing and being instrumental to winning a national championship. For example, Sarah Palmer's play against Michigan was instrumental. As was I and I absolutely think she solidified the backcourt. She might not have been "instrumental" as you describe it, but she was much more than a decent role player. Instrumental wasn't my description. She contributed to the team, but overall, I think Dalton was a disappointment as a freshman based on all the hype. Her serving was atrocious and her setting was inconsistent. But that is to be expected from most freshmen.
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Texas 2014
Jul 29, 2014 11:23:44 GMT -5
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jul 29, 2014 11:23:44 GMT -5
As was I and I absolutely think she solidified the backcourt. She might not have been "instrumental" as you describe it, but she was much more than a decent role player. Instrumental wasn't my description. She contributed to the team, but overall, I think Dalton was a disappointment as a freshman based on all the hype. Her serving was atrocious and her setting was inconsistent. But that is to be expected from most freshmen. But she neither served nor set during the tournament which is the point we are trying to make. We are talking mainly about her ball control and the stability it brought to the team during the tournament. That is the impact she had, not her bad serving or inconsistent setting. We aren't talking about if she lived up to the hype or not, only that she had a major impact over the Longhorn's success in the tournament.
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Post by elevationvb on Jul 29, 2014 13:52:13 GMT -5
Instrumental wasn't my description. She contributed to the team, but overall, I think Dalton was a disappointment as a freshman based on all the hype. Her serving was atrocious and her setting was inconsistent. But that is to be expected from most freshmen. But she neither served nor set during the tournament which is the point we are trying to make. We are talking mainly about her ball control and the stability it brought to the team during the tournament. That is the impact she had, not her bad serving or inconsistent setting. We aren't talking about if she lived up to the hype or not, only that she had a major impact over the Longhorn's success in the tournament. I understand her contributions like other players, but you all are vastly overstating her importance in the post season. Vastly.
One game against Texas A&M does not translate to instrumental to a national championship.
It might help to stop describing the play of some players as tremendous, great, instrumental etc. Especially for incoming freshmen at Texas.
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Post by volleyfiend on Jul 30, 2014 8:18:10 GMT -5
You should know by now your opinion does not matter when it comes to these two fools!! They dont care about Texas Volleyball they care about their "opinion" being right and nothing more. Just another reason that people dont come back here because of fools like this.
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Texas 2014
Jul 30, 2014 10:54:13 GMT -5
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Post by chisovnik on Jul 30, 2014 10:54:13 GMT -5
Nothing McCage did last season indicated that she was "developing into a top player." That being said, that's all on Jerritt. She runs a great slide, but never got a chance to do that least year. And don't even go there about Kocher. You have no idea what you're talking about. Although her slide is great, McCage didn't hit in front of the setter. Part of that is passing. Much of it was setting. You'll see a much better player without Hannah Allison setting her. I cannot begin to describe how awful she was, particularly as it pertained to a fast offense and connecting with her MHs. Not quite sure she is developing into Paolini, but time will tell. Allison was perfectly capable of running a fast offense. However, Jerritt decided against it. She did was she was told to do.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jul 30, 2014 11:23:54 GMT -5
Although her slide is great, McCage didn't hit in front of the setter. Part of that is passing. Much of it was setting. You'll see a much better player without Hannah Allison setting her. I cannot begin to describe how awful she was, particularly as it pertained to a fast offense and connecting with her MHs. Not quite sure she is developing into Paolini, but time will tell. Allison was perfectly capable of running a fast offense. However, Jerritt decided against it. She did was she was told to do. Jerritt liked a high offense, but he didn't tell her to have horribly inconsistent placement. He didn't tell her to set a 5 three feet in from the pin on a perfectly good pass. He also didn't tell her to never improve the ball. She couldn't run a slow offense....how could she run one that was faster? Completely disagree with you on this one. I've seen her in person for years and have never seen anything to put TX in a position to win against top talent. Hitters made up for the substance she lacked.
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Post by OptimusPrime on Jul 30, 2014 11:26:31 GMT -5
Although her slide is great, McCage didn't hit in front of the setter. Part of that is passing. Much of it was setting. You'll see a much better player without Hannah Allison setting her. I cannot begin to describe how awful she was, particularly as it pertained to a fast offense and connecting with her MHs. Not quite sure she is developing into Paolini, but time will tell. Allison was perfectly capable of running a fast offense. However, Jerritt decided against it. She did was she was told to do. This part is true. The vertical advantage dictated the offense. But I was never a fan of Allison as a setter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 11:51:03 GMT -5
Allison was perfectly capable of running a fast offense. However, Jerritt decided against it. She did was she was told to do. Jerritt liked a high offense, but he didn't tell her to have horribly inconsistent placement. He didn't tell her to set a 5 three feet in from the pin on a perfectly good pass. He also didn't tell her to never improve the ball. She couldn't run a slow offense....how could she run one that was faster? Completely disagree with you on this one. I've seen her in person for years and have never seen anything to put TX in a position to win against top talent. Hitters made up for the substance she lacked. They won a title with her... You've NEVER seen her put her teammates in a position to win against top talent? Never improve the ball? Ever? That makes no sense, and isn't fair to her. And some would argue that locating a moonball perfectly is much more difficult than a quicker tempo set. I certainly would. The offense was not limited by Allison. It was limited by her pin attackers. She was a very highly recruited setter out of high school. She wasn't impressing coaches with her ability to throw the ball to the ceilings in convention centers. "HERES THE BALL, HITTERS. FIND IT IN THE LIGHTS." You also vastly overrate Eckerman and Webster's role. They weren't adjusting to garbage for three years, and miraculously happened to garner First-Team All-America honors despite the shortcomings of their awful setter. They aren't that talented. They needed Allison and she needed them. She was a very good collegiate setter, and a national champion. Give credit where credit is due. And don't forget that you had another setter very familiar with the Texas offense and very familiar with running a faster offense sitting on the bench for half Allison's career, yet Elliott still chose the kid who could set a higher ball better.
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