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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 16:51:15 GMT -5
there are a lot of stupid people on this forum. Yeah, likes folks who crow about a RPI around 100 given the recruiting advantage of being a B1G program. Iowa was awful which is why Bond was hired. You know what they call coaches that agree with your assessment - unemployed. you lose an argument when you misrepresent what others are saying. i have never "crowed" about iowa in my life, or a 100 rpi (or pablo, for that matter, which is what i actually referenced). and here's another person who calls iowa "awful" without qualifying it. way to look smart, sid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 20:21:45 GMT -5
Iowa did go 9-3 outside the Big Ten last year, but they had some close calls in those 9 wins...including 3-2 victories over Wofford (RKPI of 263) and Youngstown State (RKPI 190). This debate aside, I think Bond will do well at Iowa, but in time. The program has a long way to go and is not at all in the same situation that Wisconsin was last year when Kelly arrived. I guess anything is possible, but it seems that similar expectations for Bond's first year would be silly....and most likely set him and his fans up for disappointment. Doing that in the Big 12 is one thing, but that is impossible in the Big Ten - even with addition of Rutgers and Maryland.
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Post by vbman100 on Apr 2, 2014 22:12:53 GMT -5
iowa has never been bad. mediocre is the worst you can say about them. but when you're better than 2/3 of the other d1 schools, "bad" seems the wrong word. This all started with you responding to 1 quote from PSUVolley saying that he can't remember Wisconsin ever being as bad as Iowa was. It was 1 post out of nearly 60. And now, look where we are. People brought up that Iowa swept Wisconsin a few years ago, even took a set off of Penn State a couple years ago. They were sticking up for Iowa, then here you come all LEEROY JENKINS! to the party.
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Post by siddhartha on Apr 3, 2014 7:12:38 GMT -5
Yeah, likes folks who crow about a RPI around 100 given the recruiting advantage of being a B1G program. Iowa was awful which is why Bond was hired. You know what they call coaches that agree with your assessment - unemployed. you lose an argument when you misrepresent what others are saying. i have never "crowed" about iowa in my life, or a 100 rpi (or pablo, for that matter, which is what i actually referenced). and here's another person who calls iowa "awful" without qualifying it. way to look smart, sid. You said Iowa has never been bad because a couple hundred teams suck worse than they do. When you're a major university in a region with a lot of talent and you have the recruiting advantages that come with being in the B1G and you struggle to crack the top 100 - that's BAD. When you have four D1 programs in your state and you're not in the top half, that's not just mediocre, that's bad. Bond came from a team in a far inferior conference had no problem beating Iowa. And before you make pronouncements about me you should maybe read my posts first.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Apr 3, 2014 7:28:11 GMT -5
Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, and...?
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Post by vbman100 on Apr 3, 2014 7:42:54 GMT -5
you lose an argument when you misrepresent what others are saying. i have never "crowed" about iowa in my life, or a 100 rpi (or pablo, for that matter, which is what i actually referenced). and here's another person who calls iowa "awful" without qualifying it. way to look smart, sid. You said Iowa has never been bad because a couple hundred teams suck worse than they do. When you're a major university in a region with a lot of talent and you have the recruiting advantages that come with being in the B1G and you struggle to crack the top 100 - that's BAD. When you have four D1 programs in your state and you're not in the top half, that's not just mediocre, that's bad. Bond came from a team in a far inferior conference had no problem beating Iowa. And before you make pronouncements about me you should maybe read my posts first. Indiana? Oregon State? Iowa was better than both of them. Indiana is way better for recruiting than Iowa. Now, they do have 9 D1 schools in Indiana. Indiana was 6th out of 9 in RPI. The state of Oregon has produced some good talent, but OSU continues to struggle. They are worse than Utah and Colorado. They are both major universities in regions with good talent and have recruiting advantages. Are they both bad as well?
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Post by siddhartha on Apr 3, 2014 8:14:25 GMT -5
Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, and...? Drake. RPI 303. Iowa can kick their ass!
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Post by siddhartha on Apr 3, 2014 8:25:24 GMT -5
You said Iowa has never been bad because a couple hundred teams suck worse than they do. When you're a major university in a region with a lot of talent and you have the recruiting advantages that come with being in the B1G and you struggle to crack the top 100 - that's BAD. When you have four D1 programs in your state and you're not in the top half, that's not just mediocre, that's bad. Bond came from a team in a far inferior conference had no problem beating Iowa. And before you make pronouncements about me you should maybe read my posts first. Indiana? Oregon State? Iowa was better than both of them. Indiana is way better for recruiting than Iowa. Now, they do have 9 D1 schools in Indiana. Indiana was 6th out of 9 in RPI. The state of Oregon has produced some good talent, but OSU continues to struggle. They are worse than Utah and Colorado. They are both major universities in regions with good talent and have recruiting advantages. Are they both bad as well? Measuring your success, not by your own accomplishments but by other people's greater degree of failure, is a losing proposition.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 3, 2014 8:33:29 GMT -5
Oregon State? Iowa was better than both of them. Indiana is way better for recruiting than Iowa. Now, they do have 9 D1 schools in Indiana. Indiana was 6th out of 9 in RPI. The state of Oregon has produced some good talent, but OSU continues to struggle. They are worse than Utah and Colorado. LOL whut? The state of Iowa produces maybe 5x the number of D-1 players as Oregon does (as do Utah and Colorado), and Iowa, UU and CU are all state flagships, whereas OSU is the clear #2 in-state going after the 1 PAC-level player per year that comes out of the state. Try again.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Apr 3, 2014 9:25:05 GMT -5
Thanks. Forgot Drake was D1.
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Post by vbman100 on Apr 3, 2014 9:41:18 GMT -5
Oregon State? Iowa was better than both of them. Indiana is way better for recruiting than Iowa. Now, they do have 9 D1 schools in Indiana. Indiana was 6th out of 9 in RPI. The state of Oregon has produced some good talent, but OSU continues to struggle. They are worse than Utah and Colorado. LOL whut? The state of Iowa produces maybe 5x the number of D-1 players as Oregon does (as do Utah and Colorado), and Iowa, UU and CU are all state flagships, whereas OSU is the clear #2 in-state going after the 1 PAC-level player per year that comes out of the state. Try again. I agree Iowa is a much better state for talent than Oregon. I did not say Oregon was producing loads of talent. I said they have had some decent talent come from there. And siddhartha said 'region', so to me that means Oregon, Northern California, Washington. I don't think Oregon State is bad. They just have not moved out of the cellar of the PAC much in the last 10 years. While Colorado and Utah quickly passed them by (actually, before those teams joined the PAC, they were already ahead of OSU it seemed). And the state of Colorado also produces a lot of great players. So that helps. I know OSU is a clear #2, but they are also in the PAC, so according to siddhartha, they should not be where they are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 10:29:58 GMT -5
iowa has never been bad. mediocre is the worst you can say about them. but when you're better than 2/3 of the other d1 schools, "bad" seems the wrong word. This all started with you responding to 1 quote from PSUVolley saying that he can't remember Wisconsin ever being as bad as Iowa was. It was 1 post out of nearly 60. And now, look where we are. People brought up that Iowa swept Wisconsin a few years ago, even took a set off of Penn State a couple years ago. They were sticking up for Iowa, then here you come all LEEROY JENKINS! to the party. for the record, that's not what happened, other than i did respond to someone who made an overly broad statement and then others, for reasons known only to themselves, started making obvious comments about how iowa has done in the b1g. some, like sid, however, are still being overly broad. some are still reacting as if i am disagreeing with the obvious. i cannot control the density of other posters. i wish i could. all i can do is share my wisdom with you all. you're welcome.
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Post by dgo on Apr 3, 2014 10:49:22 GMT -5
there are a lot of stupid people on this forum. Stupid relative to what?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 11:09:11 GMT -5
lots of smart people on jupiter, so that's going to skew the solar system average.
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Post by BoilerUp! on Apr 4, 2014 9:41:09 GMT -5
For Iowa to move up, either someone else has to move down, or else, everyone has to absorb a few more losses.
Currently, every night you have to play well in the Big Ten, or you can lose.
Nobody wants to be the team that has a loss to Iowa, Indiana, (and now Maryland and Rutgers) on their record. But, if your team is not 100% and their team is fired up, then it can happen. Injuries during the season are a fact of life. Unless you have a bench as deep as Penn State does, things happen.
So, if Iowa gets better, then that is a good thing. Right?
I find it more exciting if every night is a battle.
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