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Apr 21, 2014 16:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 21, 2014 16:59:15 GMT -5
Because glee pulls huge numbers and has a HUGE fan base. A tv show can be crap, but if it pulls good numbers and sells a lot, the network will keep it. For example there is a show called bad girls club on oxygen. It's trash. It's girls staying in a house, fighting drinking and just acting a mess. But it's a huge show and their number one show for oxygen, so it stays. ... and you watch it as often as possible? It's not really true that TV always goes for the lowest common denominator. Really all a TV show has to do is reliably deliver a target audience to advertisers and have a good ratio of advertising income to production cost. Whether or not the show is any good is irrelevant to whether it stays on TV. ( Cupid 1998 version, I'm thinking of you!) Also, sometimes it can be screwed over by the network folks and not really be given a chance to succeed. ( Firefly, I'm thinking of you!) What? I pretty much said the same thing as you. It doesn't matter if a tv show is good or not, it depends on the money it brings. And FYI, I don't think glee is a horrible show
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 21, 2014 17:07:17 GMT -5
The point is, "reality" shows and talk shows are cheap to produce, so even if they don't bring in as much revenue they have a lower bar to jump over. Scripted dramas cost more money, especially if they have special effects.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 17:08:13 GMT -5
Glee is the definition of horrible. When it didn't take itself seriously and just went with the absurdity of it all it was OK. Entertaining even. But it tries way too hard to be relevant.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 21, 2014 17:12:54 GMT -5
Glee is the definition of horrible. When it didn't take itself seriously and just went with the absurdity of it all it was OK. Entertaining even. But it tries way too hard to be relevant. People like to watch train wrecks. I looked up this "Bad Girls Club" and it seems to be getting 1.5 million viewers. Firefly was drawing three times that many when it was cancelled, but Firefly was much more expensive to make. Also, the audience numbers that can keep a show alive on a minor cable channel like Oxygen is a lot smaller than what can keep a show alive on a major network in prime time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 17:16:39 GMT -5
Well, they got to make a decent movie out of Firefly, at least.
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Apr 21, 2014 17:29:59 GMT -5
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 21, 2014 17:29:59 GMT -5
It all depends on what network you're on really. Bad girls club wouldn't be accepted on ANY other network besides maybe mtv. But like mike said, since oxygen is a low tier network, those are good numbers. Glee is relatively cheap to produce compared to shows with huge special effects, production departments, etc.
Plus glee racks in money on merchandise as well. Glee constantly sells on iTunes, they have a loyal fan base who purchase everything, and it's in fox. With glees viewing, people will did for commercial time:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 17:32:52 GMT -5
I would think Glee costs a pretty penny just for the song rights.
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Apr 21, 2014 17:39:18 GMT -5
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 21, 2014 17:39:18 GMT -5
I would think Glee costs a pretty penny just for the song rights. According to the glee Wikipedia page, each epsiode cost at least 3 million to produce. Breaking bad is the same. Sons of anarchy is 2-2.5 million. Walking dead is 2.8 So I guess I was wrong and I'm honestly shocked glee spends that much per episode Also while glee actors make good money, it's nothing like the salaries of friends, modern family, 2 and a half men make. So far the highest I could find was game of thrones at 6.5 million per episode
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Post by azvb on Apr 21, 2014 18:36:34 GMT -5
I liked the first season of Glee, mostly for the music and it was fun. The slushees in the face got old real fast, and Lea Michelle drives me nuts. I watched the 100th episode a few weeks ago. I don't think they're even pretending there's a glee club now, right? They're all living in NYC? I will tune in when they have a guest star I'm interested in, which hasn't happened since Idina Menzel was on. BTW, at her concert Idina said she hated the role of Rachel's mom. Guess it's a paycheck. They couldn't afford her now, I bet!
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Apr 21, 2014 18:38:00 GMT -5
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 21, 2014 18:38:00 GMT -5
I liked the first season of Glee, mostly for the music and it was fun. The slushees in the face got old real fast, and Lea Michelle drives me nuts. I watched the 100th episode a few weeks ago. I don't think they're even pretending there's a glee club now, right? They're all living in NYC? I will tune in when they have a guest star I'm interested in, which hasn't happened since Idina Menzel was on. BTW, at her concert Idina said she hated the role of Rachel's mom. Guess it's a paycheck. They couldn't afford her now, I bet! If I recall, they have done away with glee club and focus on the New York story line. Lots of the fans seem happy about it tbh. Never really cared for it. don't think it's a bad show, but not my cup of tea
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 26, 2014 22:53:36 GMT -5
I picked up Person of Interest (Season 1). I'm at the halfway point in the season. It's not bad. My only qualm is that I get kinda tired of the indestructible Jack Bauer-like characters, which is what John Reese is. Also, the big arc storyline is not as engaging as it could potentially be. I'm not sure why. I do, however, like the individual episodes.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 27, 2014 0:00:04 GMT -5
I picked up Person of Interest (Season 1). I'm at the halfway point in the season. It's not bad. My only qualm is that I get kinda tired of the indestructible Jack Bauer-like characters, which is what John Reese is. Also, the big arc storyline is not as engaging as it could potentially be. I'm not sure why. I do, however, like the individual episodes. I watched a few episodes of that show and thought it was interesting. But I never did figure out what the big arc storyline was supposed to be.
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 28, 2014 13:11:11 GMT -5
I picked up Person of Interest (Season 1). I'm at the halfway point in the season. It's not bad. My only qualm is that I get kinda tired of the indestructible Jack Bauer-like characters, which is what John Reese is. Also, the big arc storyline is not as engaging as it could potentially be. I'm not sure why. I do, however, like the individual episodes. I watched a few episodes of that show and thought it was interesting. But I never did figure out what the big arc storyline was supposed to be. I'm still in the middle of season 1, but I thought the big arc storyline was supposed to be related to all the flashbacks. Who is Finch? Where did he come from? What happened to him that caused him to be such a (non-caped) crusader of (anti-)crime? How did Nathan Ingram die? Why is Finch in "hiding"? Does Finch only have this one-man operation in New York or does he have other anti-crime cells throughout the world? (I still find it funny that Superman only defends the single city of Metropolis and Batman only defends Gotham City.)
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Apr 28, 2014 13:52:11 GMT -5
I watched a few episodes of that show and thought it was interesting. But I never did figure out what the big arc storyline was supposed to be. I'm still in the middle of season 1, but I thought the big arc storyline was supposed to be related to all the flashbacks. Who is Finch? Where did he come from? What happened to him that caused him to be such a (non-caped) crusader of (anti-)crime? How did Nathan Ingram die? Why is Finch in "hiding"? Does Finch only have this one-man operation in New York or does he have other anti-crime cells throughout the world? (I still find it funny that Superman only defends the single city of Metropolis and Batman only defends Gotham City.) Season One has its ups and downs as the showrunner and writers figured out where they wanted to take the series. I'd definitely suggest sticking with it, because seasons two and three really, really take off - to the point where PoI has quietly become one of the best shows out there.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 28, 2014 13:57:06 GMT -5
I watched a few episodes of that show and thought it was interesting. But I never did figure out what the big arc storyline was supposed to be. I'm still in the middle of season 1, but I thought the big arc storyline was supposed to be related to all the flashbacks. Who is Finch? Where did he come from? What happened to him that caused him to be such a (non-caped) crusader of (anti-)crime? How did Nathan Ingram die? Why is Finch in "hiding"? Does Finch only have this one-man operation in New York or does he have other anti-crime cells throughout the world? (I still find it funny that Superman only defends the single city of Metropolis and Batman only defends Gotham City.) Batman can do a lot of things, but I don't understand how he could be everywhere in the world at the same time. Even one city seems to be a lot to expect a single person to protect.
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