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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 12, 2014 0:48:56 GMT -5
Perhaps I am misunderstanding the last post: it seems to suggest that Kendra Koelsch could be setting. I thought she was a pin hitter. I've assumed all along that Tayler Higgins would take over setting responsibilities when Uiato left. I believe Hawaii also brought in a setter from SoCal as well. Where is she likely to fit in? Can anyone comment on all this? Higgins so far is the number one setter for Hawaii until Koelsch can beat her. The SoCal setter being brought in is Koelsch unless someone we don't know about is coming. Koelsch may also end up as a hitter but we never know.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 12, 2014 0:50:05 GMT -5
Or kendra. I know higgins is the most likely one to start, but kendra is an amazing player. She could very well run a 6-2 and play all rotations. You tend to make-up a lot of stories. Higgins is highly regarded setter/recruit out of high school. Kendra is good player but not the setter that Tayler Higgins is. A 6-2 would be nice, and of course mentioned by Dave on that interview with Cindy Luis, he said that he looking into it, he didn't say that they will run it. They are looking at Kendra as an opposite. Knowing the history of the Wahine offense, Dave will most likely run a 5-1. I don't know how me stating something that many other fans have said is me making up stories. I never said they WILL run a 6-2. Nor did I say they should. I said she could. Kendra is a very good hitter and setter and was most likely brought in to replace goodman who left. As of now, like I stated, higgins is the better setter, but we never know what could happen come season start.
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Post by Garand on Jun 12, 2014 1:03:18 GMT -5
My mistake earlier about an incoming SoCal setter: I was thinking that Goodman was coming in this fall, not last. Never mind about that.
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Post by internationalball on Jun 12, 2014 4:11:01 GMT -5
Hawaii has had the players to run a 6-2 before, but never did, Dave loves the 5-1 offense. I read that interview on Cindy's blog, and Dave is open to the idea, but that doesn't mean he will run it.
Also, I'm hoping that Tai Manu Olevao steps up this year, her passing/defense is awful. Looking forward to watching Kalei Greeley, she is the only freshman that could start right away in my opinion.
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Post by ancksunamun on Jun 12, 2014 15:22:11 GMT -5
Although Shoji had the setters to run a 6-2 in the past, this year may be a little different. Not only is Koelsch a good setter but a great hitter as well. He hasn't had a good Opp who could hit and set since Jenny Wilton (her Senior season) & Johanna Sahm. Looking forward to this upcoming season and what the players will bring to the table. Go Wahine!
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 12, 2014 15:44:39 GMT -5
Although Shoji had the setters to run a 6-2 in the past, this year may be a little different. Not only is Koelsch a good setter but a great hitter as well. He hasn't had a good Opp who could hit and set since Jenny Wilton (her Senior season) & Johanna Sahm. Looking forward to this upcoming season and what the players will bring to the table. Go Wahine! [br Thank you! Not only could she run a 6-2. But she could also be the OPP in a 5-1 and beat passi out. But they said passi is the hardest hitting player in the gym, so I'm excited to see how she works into the lineup
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Jun 12, 2014 16:10:04 GMT -5
jennifer carey was another player for hawaii who could hit and set. but they didn't run a 6-2 then either. at least, not a true 6-2, rather they used some hybrid that maximized carey's blocking, even as she shared setting duties with vakasausau. shoji just doesn't use the 6-2, except for situational substitutions. but maybe he just hasn't had the right personnel to effectively run it.
the issue isn't just having a setter who is capable and who can hit/set. i haven't seen koelsch aside from a few youtube clips. she looks like she's a capable setter and hitter. the issue is going to be:
(1) whether koelsh and higgins' setting style, tempo, etc., are similar enough (or if they can work towards it) so that any differences won't disrupt the overall flow of the offense. otherwise the hitters will be constantly adapting to one setter then the other. and that can be problematic.
(2) will hawaii have 2 reliable 6 rotation outside hitters? you can't be subbing the OHs out too often, if at all, if you're constantly subbing out at least one of your setters when she rotates to the front row. maybe they can get away with subbing out one of the OHs in the backrow, if they're also only subbing out higgins in the front. otherwise, the OH candidates are still unproven in this 6-rotation role. taylor's passing was suspect in the few times she was asked to pass at the end of last year. olevao was also very very inconsistent. we have yet to see passi at this level (altho, maybe she's being looked at as an opposite). long's name is always thrown into the mix, but she has yet to get her game onto the court for significant PT. and greeley will be a freshmen and the most unproven of them all.
and (3) is hawaii willing to give up the slide? running a 6-2 will effectively limit, even eliminate this offensive option. i don't know what magill's strength is. maybe she's better in front of the setter anyway. adolpho, for all her inconsistency last year, i think she was better on the slide than in front of the setter (imo).
there's a lot of considerations and moving parts to running a 6-2. the one benefit that comes to mind for a young team (if they can overcome or are willing to sacrifice some of the above) is that if hawaii lacks firepower (outside of taylor) then having 3 hitters in the front row will benefit them.
we'll just have to see. it'll be interesting to see what the coaches come up with.
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Post by karrietfan on Jun 12, 2014 17:44:03 GMT -5
Keani Passi's position is a RS hitter. The question that I see is if she can handle blocking the opposition's LS hitter. If she wins the start, she'll stay in the rotation. She is an excellent backrow player and has a very good jump serve. Nikki Taylor will surprise any doubters with her much improved backrow play. For a girl 6'4" she will prove that her backrow defense and serve/receive capabilities is much improved after playing sand tournaments in competition for the first time in her volley career. Just for those not knowing, Nikki was named All-American with 15 other players this past Sand Spring season. I see her staying in the 6 rotations starting this Fall. If Passi starts, the LOH2 could be subbed out, if not Shoji has to decide among Olevao, Greeley and Long, who is the most able to handle the 6 rotations. We'll see how all this pans out when two-a-days starts in 55 days and the Wahine season in 72 days.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 12, 2014 17:51:09 GMT -5
Keani Passi's position is a RS hitter. The question that I see is if she can handle blocking the opposition's LS hitter. If she wins the start, she'll stay in the rotation. She is an excellent backrow player and has a very good jump serve. Nikki Taylor will surprise any doubters with her much improved backrow play. For a girl 6'4" she will prove that her backrow defense and serve/receive capabilities is much improved after playing sand tournaments in competition for the first time in her volley career. Just for those not knowing, Nikki was named All-American with 15 other players this past Sand Spring season. I see her staying in the 6 rotations starting this Fall. If Passi starts, the LOH2 could be subbed out, if not Shoji has to decide among Olevao, Greeley and Long, who is the most able to handle the 6 rotations. We'll see how all this pans out when two-a-days starts in 55 days and the Wahine season in 72 days. How's passis serve compared to higgins. Higgins has a pretty good jump serve that's why.
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Post by karrietfan on Jun 12, 2014 23:40:20 GMT -5
Keani Passi's position is a RS hitter. The question that I see is if she can handle blocking the opposition's LS hitter. If she wins the start, she'll stay in the rotation. She is an excellent backrow player and has a very good jump serve. Nikki Taylor will surprise any doubters with her much improved backrow play. For a girl 6'4" she will prove that her backrow defense and serve/receive capabilities is much improved after playing sand tournaments in competition for the first time in her volley career. Just for those not knowing, Nikki was named All-American with 15 other players this past Sand Spring season. I see her staying in the 6 rotations starting this Fall. If Passi starts, the LOH2 could be subbed out, if not Shoji has to decide among Olevao, Greeley and Long, who is the most able to handle the 6 rotations. We'll see how all this pans out when two-a-days starts in 55 days and the Wahine season in 72 days. How's passis serve compared to higgins. Higgins has a pretty good jump serve that's why. I've watched most of Passi's matches her two years in junior college, her serves are very consistent, considering aces to errors and with more velocity than Higgins'. During the inter-squad match prior to the Texas opener, she displayed the same serve and in my opinion her kills had more velocity than Hartong's and Kastl's. The big question as I have previously stated is can she handle blocking the opposition's LS hitters. At the top D1 level most teams have 6'2" to 6'4" left side hitters to contend with.
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Post by internationalball on Jun 13, 2014 2:25:29 GMT -5
I see Dave running a 5-1 with Higgins setting and Taylor and Greeley on the left and Passi on the right, Mendoza at libero with Adolpho and MaGill in the middle. If Passi is anything like Otineru...she is definitely staying in the line-up no matter what. Would love to see what Kendra brings to the table...also Emily Maglio!
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Post by network155 on Jun 13, 2014 3:07:10 GMT -5
Although Shoji had the setters to run a 6-2 in the past, this year may be a little different. Not only is Koelsch a good setter but a great hitter as well. He hasn't had a good Opp who could hit and set since Jenny Wilton (her Senior season) & Johanna Sahm. Looking forward to this upcoming season and what the players will bring to the table. Go Wahine! [br Thank you! Not only could she run a 6-2. But she could also be the OPP in a 5-1 and beat passi out. But they said passi is the hardest hitting player in the gym, so I'm excited to see how she works into the lineup Passi being the hardest hitter is not the best part of her game. She can play all the way around. Yes, she's 5-9 but very dynamic. Remember San Diego last year? Their two starting outside hitters were both 5-9, and gave Hawaii fits last year. Passi brings the same type of intensity.
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Post by 5100 on Jun 13, 2014 11:23:21 GMT -5
If Passi can play like Chanteal Satele, she could earn the starting nod. Satele was underrated, she hit with a lot of power, hit for a respectable percentage, played good defense and was a very good blocker despite her height.
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Post by 5100 on Jun 13, 2014 11:27:07 GMT -5
Or kendra. I know higgins is the most likely one to start, but kendra is an amazing player. She could very well run a 6-2 and play all rotations. You tend to make-up a lot of stories. Higgins is highly regarded setter/recruit out of high school. Kendra is good player but not the setter that Tayler Higgins is. A 6-2 would be nice, and of course mentioned by Dave on that interview with Cindy Luis, he said that he is looking into it, so it is definitely a possibility. They are looking at Kendra as an opposite. Knowing the history of the Wahine offense, Dave will most likely run a 5-1. You're the one who's confused. Cindy has not mentioned that Koelsch is being looked at as an opposite. Koelsch is the backup setter for now, but supposedly has the potential to beat Higgins for the starting job or figure in a 6-2 offense.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 13, 2014 14:10:55 GMT -5
You tend to make-up a lot of stories. Higgins is highly regarded setter/recruit out of high school. Kendra is good player but not the setter that Tayler Higgins is. A 6-2 would be nice, and of course mentioned by Dave on that interview with Cindy Luis, he said that he is looking into it, so it is definitely a possibility. They are looking at Kendra as an opposite. Knowing the history of the Wahine offense, Dave will most likely run a 5-1. You're the one who's confused. Cindy has not mentioned that Koelsch is being looked at as an opposite. Koelsch is the backup setter for now, but supposedly has the potential to beat Higgins for the starting job or figure in a 6-2 offense. Thank you! That's all I tried to say. I never claimed they WOULD run a 6-2 or that she would beat higgins in a 5-1 cause quite frankly, I don't think she will. But she definitely has the potential to run a 6-2, but that's only if Dave thinks the 6-2 can Benefit the team more than a 5-1.
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