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Post by Boof1224 on Jun 29, 2014 10:42:12 GMT -5
Any rumors about Penn State starting a sand program? With exception of maybe Florida. Is the weather on east coast right for sand volleyball?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jun 29, 2014 14:35:03 GMT -5
Any rumors about Penn State starting a sand program? Dykstra played sand for UCLA, but she's never been terribly interested in the sport (unlike Lara and her brother). And if playing sand was important, the last place she would transfer to would be Penn St.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 14:50:27 GMT -5
Sometimes players just need right coach to excel. We will see. If rose and Rockwell can't get it out of her then no one will and you would be right ucla but I'd bet on the opposite How was Rockwell at getting a lot out of her setters at Texas
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Post by cardcounter on Jun 29, 2014 14:55:02 GMT -5
This transfer is a head scratcher for me. I watched Skylar in her club days. She was a good all-around player and certainly got her share of accolades in high school. While her back row skills were very good, IMO she wasn't one of the best liberos in SoCal. At Penn State she gets no sand volleyball, out-of-state tuition, and rather expensive trips back home to visit family. I don't see Skylar getting playing time at Penn State. Maybe the chance for NCAA championship rings was the motivator.
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Post by PSUVolley on Jun 29, 2014 15:05:02 GMT -5
This transfer is a head scratcher for me. I watched Skylar in her club days. She was a good all-around player and certainly got her share of accolades in high school. While her back row skills were very good, IMO she wasn't one of the best liberos in SoCal. At Penn State she gets no sand volleyball, out-of-state tuition, and rather expensive trips back home to visit family. I don't see Skylar getting playing time at Penn State. Maybe the chance for NCAA championship rings was the motivator. Maybe the prospects for NCAA championship rings motivated her to go to Penn State, but what was RR's motivation for bringing her to Penn State? Apparently, he sees some use for her. I imagine it goes beyond using her for practice fodder in the gym. He can get plenty of those girls in Pennsylvania.
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Post by cardcounter on Jun 29, 2014 15:13:20 GMT -5
Yes, that was my first thought. Coach Rose must see some potential for her to help Penn State. I will be interested to see how things work out and interested to hear her reasons for going to Penn State. She certainly could have chose a school where she was pretty much guaranteed playing time.
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Post by dizzydean on Jun 29, 2014 16:37:05 GMT -5
I think she wanted to simply play for a good program, regardless of their sand or anything else. She was looking at Wisconsin, too. Starting right away was not a big concern, IMO.
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Post by akbar on Jun 29, 2014 16:39:51 GMT -5
PSU had a battle of sorts 4 years ago when Dom, Lacey and Ali were battling for some separation from each other for the Libero spot. Ali couldn't solidify that spot, Lacey just isn't wired for this role and Dom held on and has done a very solid job.
Next year we will see who of the remaining 8 or so emerge from the pack, including Spri's Canulli.
This has always been positions where experience and maturity is needed so some will clearly have an advantage.
If you get a opportunity to load up your bullpen, why not take a player like Dykstra if she falls into your lap. Very little risk here and the dividends could really pay off.
Very exciting to see how much talent will be on the A and B sides this year. Crazy.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 29, 2014 18:17:56 GMT -5
Sometimes players just need right coach to excel. We will see. If rose and Rockwell can't get it out of her then no one will and you would be right ucla but I'd bet on the opposite How was Rockwell at getting a lot out of her setters at Texas I will first say that Salima is top rate. The problem I have with the Rockwell comparison is that her gold standard and only big success story is Glass @ PSU. But IMO, she didn't turn cinderella into a princess. She started with an incredibly gifted top 10 recruit and taught her to set. But Glass' hands were never her best quality (and still isn't) and there were always NCAA setters with better hands. You also can't diminish the contribution Glass having so many incredible athletes to put down her sets. So how much of Glass' success was predicated on the athlete that Glass is despite who was coaching her? I'm not sure, and we'll never know, but what we do know is that the setting at Texas since Salima has arrived has not been anyway near Glass level. Sure it's been good enough to get them to the success they have reached, but I would not call any Texas setter during Salima's tenure top rate. We shall see what she does at PSU, but even then it's hard to really gauge HER impact. She's gonna turn 1st team AA Micha Hancock into what? Weiskircher was the top setting prospect in the 2014 class (save Taylor Tashima who was ranked one spot above, but I digress) so SHOULDN'T be pretty darn good regardless of who is coaching her? Anyway, my point is that Salima is great, but her real impact on setters is, IMO, hard to gauge.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 19:04:09 GMT -5
How was Rockwell at getting a lot out of her setters at Texas I will first say that Salima is top rate. The problem I have with the Rockwell comparison is that her gold standard and only big success story is Glass @ PSU. But IMO, she didn't turn cinderella into a princess. She started with an incredibly gifted top 10 recruit and taught her to set. But Glass' hands were never her best quality (and still isn't) and there were always NCAA setters with better hands. You also can't diminish the contribution Glass having so many incredible athletes to put down her sets. So how much of Glass' success was predicated on the athlete that Glass is despite who was coaching her? I'm not sure, and we'll never know, but what we do know is that the setting at Texas since Salima has arrived has not been anyway near Glass level. Sure it's been good enough to get them to the success they have reached, but I would not call any Texas setter during Salima's tenure top rate. We shall see what she does at PSU, but even then it's hard to really gauge HER impact. She's gonna turn 1st team AA Micha Hancock into what? Weiskircher was the top setting prospect in the 2014 class (save Taylor Tashima who was ranked one spot above, but I digress) so SHOULDN'T be pretty darn good regardless of who is coaching her? Anyway, my point is that Salima is great, but her real impact on setters is, IMO, hard to gauge. Personally, I think Salima didn't have much to work with at Texas. A slow and high offense doesn't require a great setter. Nothing against Hannah Allison, but she wasn't a Hancock or Carlini (or even a Val Nichol if we're being honest). Rockwell was pretty much overruled by Elliot's idea of just throwing the ball out to Haley and Bailey. If you look at 2010, when their offense was a tad faster, Kocher had some pretty nice setting abilities that I didn't see in 2008. With that being said (I hate getting on the topic of Texas) I think Salima will strengthen any setter who comes in. I also have to disagree with you about Weiskircher, I think that Rachel Minark was the top setting prospect in the 2014 class. Additionally, back to the topic at hand, I think that Skylar was brought in to add depth to the libero position for 2015 and beyond. Skylar was redshirted because Meg Norton and Madie Smith were both seniors. We also know that Russ recruited Skylar in high school, so he obviously saw potential then as well. Russ is a very smart man and I'm positive he has his reasons for bringing Dykstra in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 21:54:24 GMT -5
How was Rockwell at getting a lot out of her setters at Texas I will first say that Salima is top rate. The problem I have with the Rockwell comparison is that her gold standard and only big success story is Glass @ PSU. But IMO, she didn't turn cinderella into a princess. She started with an incredibly gifted top 10 recruit and taught her to set. But Glass' hands were never her best quality (and still isn't) and there were always NCAA setters with better hands. You also can't diminish the contribution Glass having so many incredible athletes to put down her sets. So how much of Glass' success was predicated on the athlete that Glass is despite who was coaching her? I'm not sure, and we'll never know, but what we do know is that the setting at Texas since Salima has arrived has not been anyway near Glass level. Sure it's been good enough to get them to the success they have reached, but I would not call any Texas setter during Salima's tenure top rate. We shall see what she does at PSU, but even then it's hard to really gauge HER impact. She's gonna turn 1st team AA Micha Hancock into what? Weiskircher was the top setting prospect in the 2014 class (save Taylor Tashima who was ranked one spot above, but I digress) so SHOULDN'T be pretty darn good regardless of who is coaching her? Anyway, my point is that Salima is great, but her real impact on setters is, IMO, hard to gauge. ...for you. Surprising.
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Post by jsn112 on Jun 30, 2014 0:30:54 GMT -5
How was Rockwell at getting a lot out of her setters at Texas I will first say that Salima is top rate. The problem I have with the Rockwell comparison is that her gold standard and only big success story is Glass @ PSU. But IMO, she didn't turn cinderella into a princess. She started with an incredibly gifted top 10 recruit and taught her to set. But Glass' hands were never her best quality (and still isn't) and there were always NCAA setters with better hands. You also can't diminish the contribution Glass having so many incredible athletes to put down her sets. So how much of Glass' success was predicated on the athlete that Glass is despite who was coaching her? I'm not sure, and we'll never know, but what we do know is that the setting at Texas since Salima has arrived has not been anyway near Glass level. Sure it's been good enough to get them to the success they have reached, but I would not call any Texas setter during Salima's tenure top rate. We shall see what she does at PSU, but even then it's hard to really gauge HER impact. She's gonna turn 1st team AA Micha Hancock into what? Weiskircher was the top setting prospect in the 2014 class (save Taylor Tashima who was ranked one spot above, but I digress) so SHOULDN'T be pretty darn good regardless of who is coaching her? Anyway, my point is that Salima is great, but her real impact on setters is, IMO, hard to gauge. I think this may be one of the reasons that Salima came back to PSU. At Texas, she may have been overruled a lot, so the full impact wasn't realized. It's hard to imagine that Salima liked the idea of high ball setting that Allison was setting. But this is just a guess though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 1:08:56 GMT -5
I will first say that Salima is top rate. The problem I have with the Rockwell comparison is that her gold standard and only big success story is Glass @ PSU. But IMO, she didn't turn cinderella into a princess. She started with an incredibly gifted top 10 recruit and taught her to set. But Glass' hands were never her best quality (and still isn't) and there were always NCAA setters with better hands. You also can't diminish the contribution Glass having so many incredible athletes to put down her sets. So how much of Glass' success was predicated on the athlete that Glass is despite who was coaching her? I'm not sure, and we'll never know, but what we do know is that the setting at Texas since Salima has arrived has not been anyway near Glass level. Sure it's been good enough to get them to the success they have reached, but I would not call any Texas setter during Salima's tenure top rate. We shall see what she does at PSU, but even then it's hard to really gauge HER impact. She's gonna turn 1st team AA Micha Hancock into what? Weiskircher was the top setting prospect in the 2014 class (save Taylor Tashima who was ranked one spot above, but I digress) so SHOULDN'T be pretty darn good regardless of who is coaching her? Anyway, my point is that Salima is great, but her real impact on setters is, IMO, hard to gauge. I think this may be one of the reasons that Salima came back to PSU. At Texas, she may have been overruled a lot, so the full impact wasn't realized. It's hard to imagine that Salima liked the idea of high ball setting that Allison was setting. But this is just a guess though. An incorrect guess. Salima didn't leave Texas because Jerritt was "overruling" her too much. Lord.
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Post by hawaiifan808 on Jun 30, 2014 2:18:58 GMT -5
Don't I smell the continuation of the Nitty Lion dynasty?
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Post by gobruins on Jun 30, 2014 7:13:41 GMT -5
I don't understand why Penn State fans are so excited about picking up a player who couldn't get any playing time with a very mediocre UCLA team last year. Its because she's a good player and has mass potential. This is why ucla was mediocre. They're coaching is just bad. They win a nc and the next two years they don't make tourney. That's bad. I understand teams have off years but ucla should make tourney every year. Rose is one of the best at getting players potential out of them and I think she will excel at psu. Although I think it will start next year. Gonzalez will be starter here senior year. So, you think Mike Sealy was just too stupid to see Dysktra's "massive potential"? LOL! BTW, it is "THEIR" coaching, not "they're". 4th grade English class. One other thing: Do any of the Dykstra siblings ever stay at a school for more than one year? (this question is rhetorical with a bit of hyperbole. I know the eldest Dysktra stayed at Davidson for 4 years. The other 4 siblings though...)
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