WOMEN CAN'T PLAY SPORTS!

[FemalesAreWimps]

What does social life have to do with this topic? I work very hard at my craft just like anyone else so of course it will cut back on my visits to night clubs and dating!

Anyway This is an extremely serious topic. It's simply disgusting that sex appeal instead of talent and skill means that the women's game draws more of the spectators' attraction than the men's game. Especially when considering the men's game is much faster, fewer errors(the women can't even perform a decent jump serve) and showcases skill on a much higher level. Yet they can't draw because they aren't wearing revealing clothes or aren't as pretty.

I can guarentee that over half the people who watch the women play are more fans of their skimpy spandex or bikinis than their actual game. Their actual game is extremely average(that's me being nice). I saw the NCAA women final four and the overall play was very disappointing.

As far as me vs the elite women goes.... BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Have you ever stopped looking at their buttocks long enough to notice that they are very slow? It would be like putting Laila Ali up against Roy Jones in a boxing ring just because she is dominating the women. It wouldn't be pretty because the physical talent gap is just too big between men and women in sports.

[FemalesAreWimps]

Men aren't necessarily better then the women just because they are bigger and stronger. Some of the top womens players would kick any men's behind.

I can assure that some of these top women such as Ogonna, Kim W., Logan Tom, Danielle Scott, Aury Cruz, Cassie Busse will all be able to hang with the men if not take them out.

Women are just as good as the men. Just because they aren't at the strength level or the size of men it doesn't make them any worse

I can guarentee you that some of these women are actually bigger than a few of the male players i've been around or up against. Them ladies would still go down in flames if they had to compete against them because of the way women come up short(pardon the pun) next to a man in terms of upper body strength, leg speed and explosive movement in general. The gender diffrence in movement dynamics alone would make the trained male too much to handle for these girls regardless of a height advantage they might have.

Not saying women shouldn't have their moment in the sun but not at the expense of the men's game ESPECIALLY when their play is poor in comparison.

[kolohekeiki]

FemalesAreWimps said:

What does social life have to do with this topic? I work very hard at my craft just like anyone else so of course it will cut back on my visits to night clubs and dating!

Anyway This is an extremely serious topic. It's simply disgusting that sex appeal instead of talent and skill means that the women's game draws more of the spectators' attraction than the men's game. Especially when considering the men's game is much faster, fewer errors(the women can't even perform a decent jump serve) and showcases skill on a much higher level. Yet they can't draw because they aren't wearing revealing clothes or aren't as pretty.

I can guarentee that over half the people who watch the women play are more fans of their skimpy spandex or bikinis than their actual game. Their actual game is extremely average(that's me being nice). I saw the NCAA women final four and the overall play was very disappointing.

As far as me vs the elite women goes.... BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Have you ever stopped looking at their buttocks long enough to notice that they are very slow? It would be like putting Laila Ali up against Roy Jones in a boxing ring just because she is dominating the women. It wouldn't be pretty because the physical talent gap is just too big between men and women in sports.

First off, is that the reason why you go to watch female games? Because I would say that that's the reason why the majority of the fans go to watch BEACH VOLLEYBALL. I for one as well as my friends go to watch VOLLEYBALL. And by what aspect are you considering slow. There are quite a few women that pull off great jump serves. Aury Cruz, Kim Willoughby, Brittany Hochevar, Logan Tom.

You aren't looking at the overall picture you just have a one set mind. Get it through your head that it is not comparable because women in general are just smaller and not as muscular as men. But talent wise women can definitely be better than men.

You say BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! to those elite women, let me see you get on the court with them first and see who will come out standing because I'm pretty sure that you'll go down in a heart beat.

[kolohekeiki]

FemalesAreWimps said:

I can guarentee you that some of these women are actually bigger than a few of the male players i've been around or up against. Them ladies would still go down in flames if they had to compete against them because of the way women come up short(pardon the pun) next to a man in terms of upper body strength, leg speed and explosive movement in general. The gender diffrence in movement dynamics alone would make the trained male too much to handle for these girls regardless of a height advantage they might have.

Not saying women shouldn't have their moment in the sun but not at the expense of the men's game ESPECIALLY when their play is poor in comparison.

You are just so ignorant to women. Just face it you are truly bias that's why you are saying this stuff. And you are just scared because women are slowly catching up to the men in their abilities.

And how are the women's moments in the sun coming at the expense of the men's game. Maybe only in volleyball they show more women then men's games, but in every other sport the men's sports get shown more so what is going through your head? What are you watching? Are you even on the same planet as us?

[Overlycheerful]

Here's the deal. Men's VB is comparable to men playing BB with 8 foot baskets and a 20 foot court. There comes a time when that power and strength you are so fixated upon becomes an aesthetic drawback. Just like tennis.

The women's game is a better spectator sport because they FIT the dimensions of the game. Even with the higher net, the same is not true for the men.

As for sex appeal, have you ever looked at football uniforms? Do you have any idea why MOST women watch the sport? Why the men want to wear those things? (I won't go into the whole homoerotic aspect.)

Anyhow. I know you are a troll. But it's still a good topic.

[7thWoman]

FemalesAreWimps said:

Anyway This is an extremely serious topic. It's simply disgusting that sex appeal instead of talent and skill means that the women's game draws more of the spectators' attraction than the men's game...Yet they can't draw because they aren't wearing revealing clothes or aren't as pretty.

I can guarentee that over half the people who watch the women play are more fans of their skimpy spandex or bikinis than their actual game.

Disgusting? What the hell is so disgusting about being interested in the opposite sex? What is so wrong with appreciating beauty? We answered your question about why we watch the women's game, now you're telling us our answers aren't good enough? We will watch what we choose to watch, and if you don't like it, that's just too damn bad. If I were you, I would stop crying about it and go play my game. You're probably better off without all the fans anyway. Popularity has a tendency to really ruin sports.

[planetasia01]

im a guy.. but if USC women were to play USC men on a co-ed net... i would put my money on the USC women

[Aikea]

planetasia01 said:

im a guy.. but if USC women were to play USC men on a co-ed net... i would put my money on the USC women

I think I'd put USC women up against 90% of the men's team out there.

[kolohekeiki]

Bowzo said:

I think I'd put USC women up against 90% of the men's team out there.

You can put the USC women up against 90% of the men's teams, but they are still going to lose. I'm telling you guys, the men's and women's games are different. And remember that is like 18 of the men's teams out of 20. And the men's teams are stronger because all the top players only have a select few teams to go to. So the men's teams are definitely stronger.

So what I'm trying to say is that the USC women are going to get pummeled by men's teams. Just because they dominate on the women's side, it doesn't mean they would win on the men's side.

[tigfan]

planetasia01 said:

im a guy.. but if USC women were to play USC men on a co-ed net... i would put my money on the USC women

I'd like to add that I was the first to bring up this argument... about 2 months ago... however, that had more to do with the fact that USC's men are TERRIBLE, and little to do with how good the USC women are/were...

...Emily Adams, although 6'6", only gets about 12 inches off the ground... sheer athleticism if you ask me.

[sistahsledge]

All the talk about how the USC women or other top players could "hold their own" against male players is cute and wonderfully P.C., but it's really just wishful thinking. A warm-up hitting line of Willoughby, Ogonna, Cruz, Logan, etc. would be pretty awesome. But if you inserted any 6' male player from any NCAA team and had him hit on a 7'4" net, there would be a huge difference in velocity and trajectory. Watch any setter or libero in the men's game during warm-ups (the only time they really get to hit) and they put a lot more heat on the ball than any woman. Switching to a women's net height would be like spiking over a badminton net.

The one time that I recall seeing men and women of approximately equal caliber competing together was the old Team Cup league at the L.A. Forum in the 80's. There were '84 Olympians and some older players. Each team had two women/four men on the court at all times but the women were always relegated to passing and backrow play (they adjusted the rotation rules). I don't think any female player ever had a spink attempt. All the teams knew that an over-the-hill Sinjin Smith, who was not considered a great hitter in the men's game, was a more effective offensive weapon than Rita Crockett who was a world-class hitter for the '84 Olympic team.She did not look impressive when she was hitting warm-up spikes on the men's net.

[fightingminime]

Well I don't know about you ladies, but I certainly look impressive hitting on a mens net . . .

[macpahl]

I'm not sure that velocity and trajectory of warm-up spikes are indicative of how a woman would perform in an actual match. I think most here have agreed that hitting with no blocker or defense is much different than hitting in a game situation.
The women's game is different than the men's game--IMO it involves more ball control and defense, less pure power. I enjoy watching women play volleyball more than men because the rallies tend to last longer and are more exciting. Men's defense does not match their ability to hit the ball powerfully.
I've seen and played in many co-ed matches on a men's net and have seen women dominate quite a bit, both through blocking and hitting and through defense. I think any excellent women's collegiate team would give a men's team a run for their money--not because they are as powerful as men or have as much upper body strength but because they typically excel at ball control and are good blockers, even on a higher net.

[chilipalmer]

Women's volleyball is appealing in much the same way that women's tennis is appealing: there are actual rallies. Men's volleyball, for all it's skill, can get really boring: Serve, pass, kill. Serve, pass, kill.

If you, "females are wimps," are so wrapped up in skill, then you must hate the NBA where no one can hit a jump shot

[Barefoot In Kailua]

macpahl said:

I've seen and played in many co-ed matches on a men's net and have seen women dominate quite a bit, both through blocking and hitting and through defense. I think any excellent women's collegiate team would give a men's team a run for their money--not because they are as powerful as men or have as much upper body strength but because they typically excel at ball control and are good blockers, even on a higher net.

Women may have a better ball control game but realistically I doubt that excelling at ball control will make a difference in a match between a men's team and a women's team. I don't see a women's team digging and transitioning or blocking a men's team consistently or successfully enough to keep them close in a match. The men may not be as good defensively but consider this, the men face opponents who hit much harder and sharper balls. It will be far more easy for the men to defend the women than it will be for the women to defend the men.

The USC women would get swept playing any D1 men's team.

Fwiw, I prefer the women's game. I disagree with the topic caption.