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Post by ence on Nov 23, 2014 17:43:30 GMT -5
So since Lindsey Oates and Jesse Mahoney both owned their tournaments, four out of five Colorado teams are going to the tournament, and they're all from difference conferences.
Will we see all of them in Moby?
Is there any reason the committee would skip the obvious travel benefit and break this up?
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 23, 2014 17:57:50 GMT -5
You can almost certainly count on those four schools comprising the pod hosted by Colorado State the first weekend of the tournament. There are no other probable qualifiers located within 400 miles of Fort Collins, so there is no reason for the committee to do anything other than follow the travel guideline.
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Post by brunie on Nov 23, 2014 17:59:00 GMT -5
Sure sounds to me like this would be an easy decision for the committee to do this. So does that mean it won't happen?
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Post by volleyfan24 on Nov 23, 2014 18:03:09 GMT -5
Yes we will see an all Colorado sub regional. Ask Texas schools that all get sent to Austin every year. Or ask Florida and Florida State about competing in state against each other although both should avoid this this season as they will both be seeded. The committee will send all these teams to Moby. This should make for the most interesting sub regional match up CSU and Colorado? I am salivating thinking about this match up Colorado doesn't travel well but Boulder isn't far from Fort Collins. I'll bet there is a little bad blood after Gabby committed to CSU and left for CU with her sisters. CSU is consistent they won't beat themselves and play everything well, when on Colorado can beat and compete with anyone but they can also look mediocre. It should be a good one.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 23, 2014 18:05:34 GMT -5
Sure sounds to me like this would be an easy decision for the committee to do this. So does that mean it won't happen? how close is BYU to Fort Collins? may need teams to travel to Kansas or K-State as well, not so sure all Colorado teams will stay
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 23, 2014 18:10:12 GMT -5
BYU is >400 miles. This is also true of all other probable tournament qualifiers.
What you have is a cluster of four teams that are "geographically isolated" amongst themselves for purposes of the NCAA travel restrictions. They will all be together in Fort Collins.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 23, 2014 18:12:13 GMT -5
Really lucky for Colorado getting an AQ-caliber team. They might ship out UNC to the NW to fill the AQ-team quota up there. Kinda like how they flew out Fairfield last year when they could have bussed them to State College.
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 23, 2014 18:18:43 GMT -5
Really lucky for Colorado getting an AQ-caliber team. They might ship out UNC to the NW to fill the AQ-team quota up there. Kinda like how they flew out Fairfield last year when they could have bussed them to State College. Every year there are more than three teams within 400 miles of State College. Some of them have to go elsewhere and that is certainly what happened with Fairfield last year. Not even close to this situation with the Colorado teams.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 23, 2014 18:19:35 GMT -5
Really lucky for Colorado getting an AQ-caliber team. They might ship out UNC to the NW to fill the AQ-team quota up there. Kinda like how they flew out Fairfield last year when they could have bussed them to State College. Every year there are more than three teams within 400 miles of State College. Some of them have to go elsewhere and that is certainly what happened with Fairfield last year. Not even close to this situation with the Colorado teams. Utah was most certainly not within 400 miles.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Nov 23, 2014 18:55:27 GMT -5
Sure sounds to me like this would be an easy decision for the committee to do this. So does that mean it won't happen? how close is BYU to Fort Collins? may need teams to travel to Kansas or K-State as well, not so sure all Colorado teams will stay Utah seems a more likely candidate than BYU especially since they have already played this season Salt Lake is a lot closer than Provo and Utah is looking like a likely tournament team. Neither will though which is good for Colorado and Colorado State cause both BYU and Utah are good teams.
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Post by joethecoach on Nov 23, 2014 18:55:48 GMT -5
Interesting sub story given the bad blood between CU and CSU.
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 23, 2014 19:47:53 GMT -5
Every year there are more than three teams within 400 miles of State College. Some of them have to go elsewhere and that is certainly what happened with Fairfield last year. Not even close to this situation with the Colorado teams. Utah was most certainly not within 400 miles. I stand corrected on that one! (Is it possible they sent Utah there last year at least in part due to the hue and cry about the ease of Penn State's subregional in prior years?)
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 23, 2014 19:49:37 GMT -5
Utah was most certainly not within 400 miles. I stand corrected on that one! (Is it possible they sent Utah there last year at least in part due to the hue and cry about the ease of Penn State's subregional in prior years?) I think they wanted to make sure each seed played an AQ-caliber team in the first round, and they didn't have enough to go around without flying somebody out.
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 23, 2014 19:55:27 GMT -5
That seems right. A secondary result of this was that they avoided having two AQ-caliber teams playing each other in the first round, and an offsetting pod where two "higher quality" teams were unfairly matched up with each other. These types of pairings had been a significant problem in brackets from prior years.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 23, 2014 19:56:04 GMT -5
I stand corrected on that one! (Is it possible they sent Utah there last year at least in part due to the hue and cry about the ease of Penn State's subregional in prior years?) I think they wanted to make sure each seed played an AQ-caliber team in the first round, and they didn't have enough to go around without flying somebody out. This is not part of their process. All unseeded teams are supposed to be considered the same when it comes to spreading them around in the 16 sub-regionals. They do assess the quality of the teams inside each sub-regional once they have them distributed, for the purpose of figuring out which team plays the seeded team in the first round.
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