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Jun 26, 2015 11:47:42 GMT -5
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jun 26, 2015 11:47:42 GMT -5
I'd like to see a 5-1 even if Dalton is healthy! I'd like her to be a 6 rotation outside or at least a DS. She's the best passer on the team (not including McCoy) so having her as a DS instead of setting is more important I think. I feel much better about the coaching staff's ability to teach blocking (to Collins) than their ability to teach passing (to White, Paulina, Yazzie, etc.). Plus I think Collins has better hands and connects better with each hitter than Dalton does. If Dalton is healthy this is what I think would bring the most success: OH: White/Paulina and Dalton MB: McCage and Ogbogu Opp: Ebony S: Collins L: McCoy Possible DS in Brooks/Neal for White/Paulina/Ebony Don't think it's reasonable to ever expect Dalton to return as a DS after returning from multiple surgeries to her hip / legs. I believe Elliott would be satisfied if she could make it through '16 in the same capacity as in '15.Yeah this is just a best case scenario if she's healthy!
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Post by elevationvb on Jun 26, 2015 12:00:02 GMT -5
Don't think it's reasonable to ever expect Dalton to return as a DS after returning from multiple surgeries to her hip / legs. I believe Elliott would be satisfied if she could make it through '16 in the same capacity as in '15. Do you mean make it through '15 as the same capacity as '14? We have not seen her in '15 yet. Yes. Thank you for the correction. Getting way ahead of myself!
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Post by southie on Jun 29, 2015 8:32:58 GMT -5
Obviously, we can't replace everything that Haley Eckerman did on the court with just one player. When you think of the left-side hitters we've had (Hooker, Faucette, Webster, Eckerman) on the court since 2006, this coming season doesn't have that "wow" OH.
Last season, we set the middle and especially the right side so much more than I could ever recall; perhaps that was due to the 6-2 offense. I can see us doing the same this year if our more reliable terminators are on the right side.
Back to Eckerman, we definitely lose her jump-serving ability, and not sure that will be replaced. Neal came in with a reputation as a great jump-server, but that just never translated at the collegiate level; she used a new serve last season, and it seem to be effective/consistent. I believe Nwanebu, while not a jump-server, does serve tough; and, I think Bedart-Ghani can jump server (think I recall her doing that in the UA all-star game last December). But, if they are our RS hitters in the 6-2 offense, we won't be seeing them at the service line (or is there a way?). So, anxious to see how tough of a serving team the 2015 squad will be.
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Post by tempesthorn on Jun 29, 2015 11:24:56 GMT -5
Obviously, we can't replace everything that Haley Eckerman did on the court with just one player. When you think of the left-side hitters we've had (Hooker, Faucette, Webster, Eckerman) on the court since 2006, this coming season doesn't have that "wow" OH. Last season, we set the middle and especially the right side so much more than I could ever recall; perhaps that was due to the 6-2 offense. I can see us doing the same this year if our more reliable terminators are on the right side. Back to Eckerman, we definitely lose her jump-serving ability, and not sure that will be replaced. Neal came in with a reputation as a great jump-server, but that just never translated at the collegiate level; she used a new serve last season, and it seem to be effective/consistent. I believe Nwanebu, while not a jump-server, does serve tough; and, I think Bedart-Ghani can jump server (think I recall her doing that in the UA all-star game last December). But, if they are our RS hitters in the 6-2 offense, we won't be seeing them at the service line (or is there a way?). So, anxious to see how tough of a serving team the 2015 squad will be. Amy had a new jump serve during the spring matches. It wasn't a traditional one but it was wicked and very effective. It will be interesting to see if she stays with it in the fall, sometimes they try something in the spring and then go back to something more consistent in the fall. I hope she sticks with it. Paulina has a jump serve. As far as "wow" OHs, going into Haley and Khat's freshman campaign everyone thought Khat was going to be the wow OH. I remember watching Haley the summer before playing with the JNT and thinking if Bell's the wow then she's a pretty good OH as well. Turns out she was the wow OH of that class. So you never know.
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Post by southie on Jun 29, 2015 12:32:32 GMT -5
In 2011, we did have Bailey Webster returning from her medical redshirt sophomore season, even though she still was unproven as she did not tear it up her freshman season in 2009 and was used mainly on the right side. But, expectations were definitely very high for her; so, the cupboard wasn't completely bare at OH (elite talent-wise) when Khat and Haley arrived.
I remember watching Haley on some video stream the summer before arriving at Texas in some international match in Central America. She was playing on the right side, and I'll never forget the confidence and composure she played with as she smacked the ball all over the court. That sold me on her being a contender for Big 12 FOY.
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Post by tempesthorn on Jun 29, 2015 16:51:09 GMT -5
I think the player that Bailey became is clouding your view of what the OUTSIDE HITTER cupboard was really like in the summer of 2011.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:44:09 GMT -5
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 29, 2015 18:44:09 GMT -5
I think the player that Bailey became is clouding your view of what the cupboard was really like in the summer of 2011. Your cupboard was stocked. You had 4 top ten senior aces in Bailey, Adams, allison and McNeal. 90 percent of division one programs would love to have that type of talent. Granted, you lost two great players, you returned a lot, not to mention, were gaining 2 outstanding players. What you consider bare, is what most teams in the nation would consider more than full
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Post by tempesthorn on Jun 30, 2015 9:29:53 GMT -5
I think the player that Bailey became is clouding your view of what the OUTSIDE HITTER cupboard was really like in the summer of 2011. Your cupboard was stocked. You had 4 top ten senior aces in Bailey, Adams, allison and McNeal. 90 percent of division one programs would love to have that type of talent. Granted, you lost two great players, you returned a lot, not to mention, were gaining 2 outstanding players. What you consider bare, is what most teams in the nation would consider more than full Southie and I were exchanging points about Outside Hitters and not having a "wow" OH. The outside hitter cupboard consisted of Bailey coming off knee surgery and having lost her spot in her freshman campaign. We can argue degrees all day long but that is not a full cupboard. We knew we'd have to rely on one if not two freshman. I'm sorry you are not capable of reading two and three posts prior and determining the context of someone's statement. My bad for not being explicit enough for you I FIFY. No one said anything about setters or middle blockers and not being stocked there.
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Post by vbprisoner on Jun 30, 2015 9:52:30 GMT -5
Your cupboard was stocked. You had 4 top ten senior aces in Bailey, Adams, allison and McNeal. 90 percent of division one programs would love to have that type of talent. Granted, you lost two great players, you returned a lot, not to mention, were gaining 2 outstanding players. What you consider bare, is what most teams in the nation would consider more than full Southie and I were exchanging points about Outside Hitters and not having a "wow" OH. The outside hitter cupboard consisted of Bailey coming off knee surgery and having lost her spot in her freshman campaign. We can argue degrees all day long but that is not a full cupboard. We knew we'd have to rely on one if not two freshman. I'm sorry you are not capable of reading two and three posts prior and determining the context of someone's statement. My bad for not being explicit enough for you I FIFY. No one said anything about setters or middle blockers and not being stocked there. Wahinefan is also a supporter of Texas so go easy on him.
The one point you stated regarding the OH(s) that I might disagree with is Bell was a MB coming out of HS/Club, and even if the coaching staff may have envisioned her as a potential OH/RS she ended up playing MB her Frosh. year until her injury.
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Post by tempesthorn on Jun 30, 2015 10:10:46 GMT -5
Southie and I were exchanging points about Outside Hitters and not having a "wow" OH. The outside hitter cupboard consisted of Bailey coming off knee surgery and having lost her spot in her freshman campaign. We can argue degrees all day long but that is not a full cupboard. We knew we'd have to rely on one if not two freshman. I'm sorry you are not capable of reading two and three posts prior and determining the context of someone's statement. My bad for not being explicit enough for you I FIFY. No one said anything about setters or middle blockers and not being stocked there. Wahinefan is also a supporter of Texas so go easy on him.
The one point you stated regarding the OH(s) that I might disagree with is Bell was a MB coming out of HS/Club, and even if the coaching staff may have envisioned her as a potential OH/RS she ended up playing MB her Frosh. year until her injury.
With respect to Bell, Elliott was sort of pumping her as the next Destinee in Point Texas club prior to her freshman year so my opinion on our 2011 OH cupboard is probably shaped by hearing that as I had in my mind she'd be tried out as OH (which is what the coaching staff did). So in the summer of 2011 our potential OH cupboard was Eckerman - a freshman, Bailey - RS sophomore/knee injury/lackluster freshman campaign where she barely played in the playoffs, and Bell - freshman being converted to OH from MB. Contrasted to the 2015 cupboard, on paper we are in much better shape and my original point to Southie was you never know if Yazzie or Micaya will be a wow OH -- no one really thought Eckerman would be the wow OH in 2011.
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Post by vbprisoner on Jun 30, 2015 10:43:50 GMT -5
Wahinefan is also a supporter of Texas so go easy on him.
The one point you stated regarding the OH(s) that I might disagree with is Bell was a MB coming out of HS/Club, and even if the coaching staff may have envisioned her as a potential OH/RS she ended up playing MB her Frosh. year until her injury.
With respect to Bell, Elliott was sort of pumping her as the next Destinee in Point Texas club prior to her freshman year so my opinion on our 2011 OH cupboard is probably shaped by hearing that as I had in my mind she'd be tried out as OH (which is what the coaching staff did). So in the summer of 2011 our potential OH cupboard was Eckerman - a freshman, Bailey - RS sophomore/knee injury/lackluster freshman campaign where she barely played in the playoffs, and Bell - freshman being converted to OH from MB. Contrasted to the 2015 cupboard, on paper we are in much better shape and my original point to Southie was you never know if Yazzie or Micaya will be a wow OH -- no one really thought Eckerman would be the wow OH in 2011. I do see your point. It will be interesting where some of the players end up with several players possibly being OH or RS (Ebony, Yaz, Paulina) and then White and Neal being strictly OH. Most of this IMO will end up be subject to playing a 5-1 or 6-2. I would also not be surprised if McCage got some time at RS in pre-season if Morgan Johnson comes in hot to start camp because she has beast potential.
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Jun 30, 2015 12:06:58 GMT -5
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Post by jayvolleypro on Jun 30, 2015 12:06:58 GMT -5
White is killing it on CT 29 right now
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Post by southie on Jun 30, 2015 12:19:43 GMT -5
As I noted above, watching Eckerman in that tourney opened my eyes; was in awe of her arm swing. I had also heard (second hand) Elliott's comment about one of the new 2010 recruits possibly reminding Texas fans of Destinee; I just assumed he was talking about Eckerman based on her height and physique. Webster was still an unproven commodity going into 2010, but was told she was the best player in summer practices right before her ACL injury (guess that included Faucette).
We've been fortunate to have at least one of Hooker, Faucette, Webster, and Eckerman on the court since 2006. That's a formidable set of OHs, and each was All-American worthy. Do we have that type of terminator for 2015? Based on returning production from 2014, I'd say no. But, Ebony has proven what she can do when healthy; so, she's my best bet for most lethal pin hitter, although most seem to think she is going to play on the right side.
If Paulina can find the consistency to hit for a higher percentage, she certainly packs the power to be a go-to OH. Haven't seen enough of Micaya or Yaz to truly gauge their potential as true freshmen. Most on here (myself included) are thinking Yaz will play on the right side (which Elliott did mention she can after NSD last November); but, maybe she wins the OH spot vacated by Eckerman.
A new era for sure at the pins.
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Post by tempesthorn on Jun 30, 2015 12:46:07 GMT -5
I just realized I'm forgetting we had Amber in the 2011 coming back as an OH. How could I forgot our OH converted to DS? So the cupboard wasn't as bare as I remembered it. A new era at the pins for sure, regardless.
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Post by austex2010 on Jun 30, 2015 16:19:54 GMT -5
I just realized I'm forgetting we had Amber in the 2011 coming back as an OH. How could I forgot our OH converted to DS? So the cupboard wasn't as bare as I remembered it. A new era at the pins for sure, regardless. Yes but Amber was coming off of shoulder surgery so her status was a little iffy as well.
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