I know avoiding my rotation from hell has often played a factor- especially in the women's game. Coaching men blocking matchups was my first priority. Coaching women minimizing my worst rotation was a sound philosophy
I think it's a lot like baseball. With Big Data now, they've found that lineups don't really matter much. The one point it matters is that your top 2-3 guys, over the course of a full season, will get up to bat an extra 40-50 times over the guys down farther in the lineup. So you hit your best guys up top and go.
At your level, how many rotations does a match go? If it's going 8-9, or 14-15 rotations--where a couple people are always winding up an extra time in the front row---then you make sure they get that extra couple chances to hit.
* * In theory?? Lineups and where to start (again, it can depend on your level--starting a best blocker in left-front on a 6th grade team makes far less sense than starting the kid who has a consistent hard serve...)
*Start with your best server *Start with the setter in the back row *Begin with your best hitter at LF. *Begin with your best blocker at LF. *Start with your best serve-receive passer (non-libero) at right back
Trying to line it up with matchups is a bit of a fool's errand and can't be counted on---because you don't really know if your opponent will stay the same/won't make adjustments. If you're worrying about your opponent, you aren't worrying about what YOU can do...at which point you've already lost. Always focus on your own abilities and force your opponent to think about you and what you are doing instead of what they are supposed to be doing.
Joe mentions a similar baseball stat in the article I previously linked. I agree with you on matchups- it's hard to align with a team when you don't for sure who will be standing where.
You mention starting the setter in the back row. Is there any reason this is better than starting her in the front row? I'm not debating against it because I don't know if it's better or not; I'm just curious as to anyone's reasoning for starting the setter back.
It's better if your team has a better combined S/SR score. One season we had a tall setter who was an iffy defender paired with a really good slide hitter. Our best three rotations were the three with a front-row setter. Another year we ran a 6-2, but we were constantly looking for which hitters hit best off of which setter. We wanted our "better" setter in more often.
Basically: Start the setter in the backrow if those are your best rotations.
They might be better because of a player who is serving. They might be better due to blocking, digging, passing, hitting. It's usually the sum of all of those things. Play in your best rotations more often. Make small adjustments if you need to, but just following that simple step will lead to better results than over-thinking things. Sometimes adjustments are needed, but sometimes I think we want to make adjustments just to feel like we have more control over the situation.
Dialing your rotation or trying to figure out optimum matchups isn't as big a factor in the modern era. You might get 14-18 rotations in a typical set if you are lucky. In the sideout era, you could maybe expect to see rotational matchups 3 or sometimes even 4 times a set.
I say find out where your best consecutive PPR rotations are on your pie and start there.
Post by genovese90210 on Jul 4, 2015 12:04:15 GMT -5
This question is likely to yield a number of different answers based on what level you coach and is usually a statistics and block matchup driven decision.
Here are a few considerations:
1. How many substitutions do you have and how do you intend to use them. For example internationally the USA national team may chose to start in S4 because they are trying to play as many rotations as they can with 3 hitters. (also appears to be some of the reasoning that led to the libero playing in middleback) If both team are siding out at a high clip then you may see the setter go through the frontrow 2 times if the setter starts in S4. If you figure two team siding out at a similar pace then you can expect 9-10 points after 6 rotations and use of the double sub under similar circumstances around 18-20 points.
2. Statistically speaking S1 is likely to be most teams weakest rotation simply because if a FBSO is not executed then you have two players blocking and attacking out of position so-to-speak. This is not always the case. In 2012 USA was pretty good in S1 because Hooker was hitting and blocking (if defended) in a position she was used to. With a left handed player like Murphy who is a good attacker in position 4 having to block combinations on that side of the court could present very big problems. Some may argue S2 is the weakest.
3. High level coaches don’t randomly decide to start to far ahead and/or behind in rotations because it is more difficult to maintain the ability to manage the match . Players who are used to seeing a particular sequence of combinations are faced with new responsibilities. You do not want a outside hitter who is used to seeing two hitter combinations all of a sudden having to deal with At the club or college it appears most players are interchangeable, internationally you can lose control very quickly.
4. The length of the set and which type of offense you use is a also a crucial factor in determining where to start. To use the example above you may chose to start as the receiving team in S6 or S5. A poor S1 sequence in a set to 25 is recoverable a negative 2-3 point sequence in a game to 15 at a high level may not be worth the risk.
One factor for a starting rotation to keep in mind. How well you first ball side out (FBSO) in each row (has been mentioned). Illustrating the top 8 teams from 2015 MPSF men's volleyball season: In the MPSF, middles are strong indicators for favorable FBSO. The BIC in certain rows is a valuable option. (*this graphs opposite FBSO in ro. 4, 5, 6 is back row, FBSO in 1, 2, 3 in front row)
I don't need a fancy graph to tell me that. If your middles killed the ball for a FBSO, or you ran an in-system bic, that means you were running it off a 3 pass anyway.
I never understood the other system. If you have a numbering system already in place (1--serving, 6--middle back, 5--left back, etc.), why do you use a different numbering system? Your setter is in 6, not 2.
OTOH, I understand that people don't like to count 1, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 ...
1.) Have my strongest OH and strongest MB be front row as much as possible when my setter is front row (we've been running a 5-1). So I've had MB1 leading the setter, OH1 following the setter. This way I'm hopefully not loosing too much offense when I only have 2 hitters front row.
2.) Have my strongest OH be front row for the largest number of rotations possible. Our matches usually go ~12-15 rotations.
So we've been starting in rotation 5 (OH1 in zone 4, setter in zone 3).
At GJNC's it seemed to work pretty - I was really happy with how many times my OH1 rotated into the front row right around our 21st point or so. We didn't win all those sets, but most of the time I had my biggest hitter swinging away when the game was on the line.