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Post by sIsam on Jan 17, 2004 14:10:43 GMT -5
Portugese team Castelo Da Maina withdrew from Top Teams Cup when their four american players were advised by their embassy not to travel to turkey. They are suspended for two years from european competition and also fines....
As a result, Vakif Gunes of Turkey automatically qualifies for semi final...
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Post by IdahoBoy on Jan 17, 2004 14:19:45 GMT -5
Who are the four American players and why were they advised to stay out of the Turkey?
Reminds me of "A Christmas Story's" father, who is incessantly trying to eat the Christmas turkey, for some reason.
Thanks sisam, don't mean to make fun of the country, just the name we Americans call it.
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Post by sIsam on Jan 17, 2004 14:39:05 GMT -5
The names are: Stephanie Kay HAGEN Lindsay Danielle HENNING Gretchen Anne MAURER Beth SPICER I'd think it's because of the bombings back in November. And IMO it really is stupid and is letting terror win! Btw the suspension is for three years and fine 2000 EUR. No offense takes, seen the movie myself...
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Post by IdahoBoy on Jan 17, 2004 15:02:35 GMT -5
By suspending them from European competition, does that mean they won't be able to even field a team?
Or is this just "post-season" so to speak competition?
Stephanie Hagen, Minnesota (1998-2001?), 6-3 MB Lindsay Henning, Penn State (1996-1999), 6-0 RS[Formerly of USPV Minnesota Chill] Gretchen Maurer, Washington (1999-2002), 5-10 S Beth Spicer, Tarlton? (1988?) -- Never heard of either.
Oh, yes, I forgot to mention... I would definately go to Turkey if I were in their situation. Terrorism should not prevail!
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Post by USAFAN on Jan 17, 2004 15:18:41 GMT -5
Besty Spicer played for the University of Illinois and in the USPV as well. Also the name of the club is Castelo de Maia.
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Post by Murina on Jan 17, 2004 20:31:12 GMT -5
The U.S. State Department issued a travel warning for Turkey on 11/20/03 as a result of the two bombings in Istanbul. It has no experation date. The full text of the warning is here: www.travel.state.gov/turkey_warning.htmlAs young women who probably don't have much experience traveling outside the United States, I don't blame them for taking the advice of the embassy staff. I would (someday will - I hope!) go to Turkey without any reservations, but my age and experience would be called upon to do as much as possible to ensure my safety. These young women don't have that to fall back on. Their best safety net is the advice of their embassy who they can trust to be conservative. Castelo De Maia has long been a top team in the Portugese league and so often participates in European Cup competition. You could call it post season competition because only the best teams from each country qualify to participate, but it is played at the same time as each national league. National Leagues usually play on Saturdays or Sundays, European Cup matches are Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday in most cases. Sisam6, don't you think Gunes was going to destroy Castelo anyway? I don't think I would give Castelo a single set in the two matches. Do you know which match up Gunes will play the winner of?
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Post by sIsam on Jan 18, 2004 8:40:11 GMT -5
Castelo De Maia has long been a top team in the Portugese league and so often participates in European Cup competition. You could call it post season competition because only the best teams from each country qualify to participate, but it is played at the same time as each national league. National Leagues usually play on Saturdays or Sundays, European Cup matches are Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday in most cases. Sisam6, don't you think Gunes was going to destroy Castelo anyway? I don't think I would give Castelo a single set in the two matches. Do you know which match up Gunes will play the winner of? The ban is definitely for participation in CEV organized Euro Cups like CL, Top Teams and CEV Cup. As for whether Gunes was going to win or not, I think they would have. However, I do not think they like to qualify like this. It's just so frustrating and really hurts the sport as well as the teams here. Gunes plays an Spanish team but forgot which one... Btw, Vakif's manager said that the Portugese team applied to CEV twice for a change of venue and was denied both times... I wonder whether a similar thing will be an issue with Eczaci's matches in two weeks. They're in the same group with an Italian team and Italians are notorious in Europe for using such things to their advantage... Hey Murina ! Hope to see you here one day:) We can catch a couple of games together...
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Post by foreignball on Jan 18, 2004 9:56:26 GMT -5
Hey Murina ! Hope to see you here one day:) We can catch a couple of games together... Don't forget some baklava and turkish coffee
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Post by sIsam on Jan 18, 2004 14:44:31 GMT -5
Don't forget some baklava and turkish coffee of course and maybe some raki (ouzo) and fish against the view of the bosphorus
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Post by Murina on Jan 18, 2004 16:20:06 GMT -5
of course and maybe some raki (ouzo) and fish against the view of the bosphorus Breaking into my piggy bank now!
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Post by foreignball on Jan 18, 2004 16:43:26 GMT -5
of course and maybe some raki (ouzo) and fish against the view of the bosphorus Sisam, Let’s clarify that: you wrote raki (ouzo) so it implies you count both as a same thing, right? I would say those are quite different beverages - by strength, by flavor and by taste even though both are hard liquors and are distilled out of fruit pulp. Actually “ouzo” is a brand name of a Greek liquor which gets in “mastika” family - some other brands are also available. This beverage is flavored strongly with aniseeds and its strength is 90 proof. Raki (also rakia or rakis) is a little bit less strong (80 proof) and doesn’t have aniseed flavor in general. As far as it comes to the menu I would suggest ouzo or rakia with appetizers (fresh salad, olives, etc.) before the main course and depending on the season I would recommend raki during the winter (it makes you feel warm) and ouzo during summer times. White wine or beer goes better with fish. Sorry, you took me somewhere where I claim to be almost a scientist ;D ;D ;D
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Post by sIsam on Jan 18, 2004 17:17:22 GMT -5
Sisam, Let’s clarify that: you wrote raki (ouzo) so it implies you count both as a same thing, right? I would say those are quite different beverages - by strength, by flavor and by taste even though both are hard liquors and are distilled out of fruit pulp. Actually “ouzo” is a brand name of a Greek liquor which gets in “mastika” family - some other brands are also available. This beverage is flavored strongly with aniseeds and its strength is 90 proof. Raki (also rakia or rakis) is a little bit less strong (80 proof) and doesn’t have aniseed flavor in general. As far as it comes to the menu I would suggest ouzo or rakia with appetizers (fresh salad, olives, etc.) before the main course and depending on the season I would recommend raki during the winter (it makes you feel warm) and ouzo during summer times. White wine or beer goes better with fish. Sorry, you took me somewhere where I claim to be almost a scientist ;D ;D ;D i know they are not the same thing but i do not know enough about the differences between the two. However, our raki does have a quite strong aniseed taste and smell. Are we talking about the same thing? There is also a drink we make out of distilling grape pulp (my family has some vinyards and we produce some of this stuff in order not to waste the pulp that is left after taking the juice from the grapes). As far as I know they then process this to make raki. Can it be what you are talking about? Well, to make the drink justice you start with the full course of apetizers (colds and hots) and continue to main course (usually after 10pm at night). We like our fish with raki (though I'm more of a beer drinker) but it won't do without the apetizers and grilled halvah as dessert. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by foreignball on Jan 19, 2004 0:29:50 GMT -5
.... won't do without the apetizers and grilled halvah as dessert. ;D ;D ;D ..and some lokum, please ;D OK, I'll IM to you more detailed explanation about ouzo and raki in order not to convert this thread to culinary art
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Post by sIsam on Jan 19, 2004 1:07:39 GMT -5
..and some lokum, please ;D OK, I'll IM to you more detailed explanation about ouzo and raki in order not to convert this thread to culinary art Sure why not as much as you like.... awaiting ur IM....
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