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Post by speegs13 on Nov 25, 2015 19:09:43 GMT -5
Here is how I am seeing the bracket as of now. This has the maximum # of drive-ins - although there are probably another 100 other ways to have the same number of drive-ins. If these are the 16 hosts, then there will be more flying this year than last. Last 4 in - TCU, Oregon, Villanova, Boise State, Last 4 out - Long Beach State, Wyoming, Arkansas, Michigan State. RP Index as I see it ending the season in parenthesis. San Diego 1) USC (2): Loyola Marymount (29), UNCW (60), Northern Arizona (34), Furman (95) 16) BYU (13): Hawaii (26), Boise State (46), American (70) 8) Florida (5): North Carolina (21), Miami (42), UNCW (60), Coastal Carolina (85) 9) UCLA (11): San Diego (25), Northern Arizona (34), North Carolina (21), New Mexico State (68) Lexington 4) Wisconsin (4): Arizona (44), Marquette (37), Fairfield (174) 13) Louisville (16): Kentucky (18), Western Kentucky (17), Belmont (178) 5) Washington (6): Michigan (30), Lipscomb (54), Harvard (145) 12) Kansas (9): Purdue (32), Arizona State (35), Missouri State (39) Des Moines 3) Minnesota (3): Iowa State (24), Creighton (19), New Hampshire (154) 14) Missouri (14): Illinois (23), Arkansas State (20), Southern Illinois (38) 6) Nebraska (7): Wichita State (33), Kansas State (41), Denver (84) 11) Stanford (12): Colorado State (28), Santa Clara (36), Howard (226) Austin 2) Texas (1): SMU (31), Oregon (50), Jackson State (313) 15) Ohio State (15): Dayton (27), Ohio (53), Cleveland State (74) 7) Penn State (8): Pittsburgh (43), Villanova (45), Robert Morris (209) 10) Texas A&M (10): Florida State (22), TCU (48), Texas A&M Corpus Christi (72) So if Boise doesn't make in (or Wyoming replaces them, whichever), would that increase the likelihood of Colorado State being sent to BYU, or would it not matter at that point? I realize that Boise is within driving distance, so if they're in, they HAVE to go to BYU. I only ask this because Provo seems like the closest fly in location for CSU rather than Stanford (or any of the other west coast schools)... I'm just a casual fan, so I have no inside intel on how the seeding goes for the tournament. Thanks!
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 25, 2015 19:21:14 GMT -5
So if Boise doesn't make in (or Wyoming replaces them, whichever), would that increase the likelihood of Colorado State being sent to BYU, or would it not matter at that point? I realize that Boise is within driving distance, so if they're in, they HAVE to go to BYU. I only ask this because Provo seems like the closest fly in location for CSU rather than Stanford (or any of the other west coast schools)... I'm just a casual fan, so I have no inside intel on how the seeding goes for the tournament. Thanks! Yes. If Boise isn't in, then that opens up BYU for Colorado State. Don't know if shorter flight will have much impact - but at least CSU would have a chance of going there.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 25, 2015 19:32:49 GMT -5
Bluepenguin Can you tell me what the concern with driving versus flying is for the committee? Are they on the hook for air travel? Thanks. The committee's bracketing process is: 1) Pick (and rank) the 16 best teams. These teams will host subregionals. 2) Place the other 48 teams into those 16 subregionals, minimizing the number of flights. The NCAA will pay for flights on trips over 400 miles. Also in this step, they need to make sure all regional hosts are in the region they're hosting and to avoid intraconference matchups in rounds 1 & 2. Thus, geography plays a large roll in where the unseeded teams get sent for the first two rounds. yes, which is why year after year we have 1 or 2 loaded west coast regionals, and some weak ass east coast regionals. Also, the proximity of overrated non Big 10 midwest/mid atlantic seeds (*cough* SEC teams, *cough* seeded teams from 1 or 2 bid conferences) gives the big 10 essentially 2 additional regionals, per year.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 25, 2015 20:11:40 GMT -5
Usually at least one "valley of death" in the west, more often than not going through Seattle. So, when the Wahini are not hosting, which looks to be the case this year, the Committee has sent Hawaii to Seattle three straight times. Will they make it a fourth?
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Post by trojansc on Nov 25, 2015 20:22:13 GMT -5
Usually at least one "valley of death" in the west, more often than not going through Seattle. So, when the Wahini are not hosting, which looks to be the case this year, the Committee has sent Hawaii to Seattle three straight times. Will they make it a fourth? I am hoping that Hawaii is sent to Stanford or UCLA. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised by a potential NCAA 2nd round match of (31-1) #1 USC and the (26-1) #8 Wahine
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Post by dd2000 on Nov 25, 2015 20:55:23 GMT -5
Usually at least one "valley of death" in the west, more often than not going through Seattle. So, when the Wahini are not hosting, which looks to be the case this year, the Committee has sent Hawaii to Seattle three straight times. Will they make it a fourth? I am hoping that Hawaii is sent to Stanford or UCLA. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised by a potential NCAA 2nd round match of (31-1) #1 USC and the (26-1) #8 Wahine The Wahine have had some success at USC in the tournament. Less so at Washington. The matches are always exciting though. Second round is way too early for that kind of match up, but it happens all the time.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 25, 2015 21:19:04 GMT -5
MSU should be bubble safe, IMO.
MSU with a 50ish RPI, 2 wins against RPI top 25, 5 against top 50...If they aren't in, that's crazy. IMO better resume that almost all the teams in the 40's and 50's.
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Post by seymour8 on Nov 25, 2015 22:14:56 GMT -5
Here is how I am seeing the bracket as of now. This has the maximum # of drive-ins - although there are probably another 100 other ways to have the same number of drive-ins. If these are the 16 hosts, then there will be more flying this year than last. Last 4 in - TCU, Oregon, Villanova, Boise State, Last 4 out - Long Beach State, Wyoming, Arkansas, Michigan State. RP Index as I see it ending the season in parenthesis. San Diego 1) USC (2): Loyola Marymount (29), UNCW (60), Northern Arizona (34), Furman (95) 16) BYU (13): Hawaii (26), Boise State (46), American (70) 8) Florida (5): North Carolina (21), Miami (42), UNCW (60), Coastal Carolina (85) 9) UCLA (11): San Diego (25), Northern Arizona (34), North Carolina (21), New Mexico State (68) Lexington 4) Wisconsin (4): Arizona (44), Marquette (37), Fairfield (174) 13) Louisville (16): Kentucky (18), Western Kentucky (17), Belmont (178) 5) Washington (6): Michigan (30), Lipscomb (54), Harvard (145) 12) Kansas (9): Purdue (32), Arizona State (35), Missouri State (39) Des Moines 3) Minnesota (3): Iowa State (24), Creighton (19), New Hampshire (154) 14) Missouri (14): Illinois (23), Arkansas State (20), Southern Illinois (38) 6) Nebraska (7): Wichita State (33), Kansas State (41), Denver (84) 11) Stanford (12): Colorado State (28), Santa Clara (36), Howard (226) Austin 2) Texas (1): SMU (31), Oregon (50), Jackson State (313) 15) Ohio State (15): Dayton (27), Ohio (53), Cleveland State (74) 7) Penn State (8): Pittsburgh (43), Villanova (45), Robert Morris (209) 10) Texas A&M (10): Florida State (22), TCU (48), Texas A&M Corpus Christi (72) So if Boise doesn't make in (or Wyoming replaces them, whichever), would that increase the likelihood of Colorado State being sent to BYU, or would it not matter at that point? I realize that Boise is within driving distance, so if they're in, they HAVE to go to BYU. I only ask this because Provo seems like the closest fly in location for CSU rather than Stanford (or any of the other west coast schools)... I'm just a casual fan, so I have no inside intel on how the seeding goes for the tournament. Thanks! Glad casual fan. Burger King whopper with cheese if you are right. Though, you aren't right. No way Louisville, Kentucky and Western Kentucky go the same place. No way. You must live in Colorado and enjoying the brownies. And no way Lipscomb and Harvard traveling that far. Sorry, you must be real casual. Though the Burger King whopper deal still stands. We can exchange money on Pay pal.
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Post by 5280volleyball on Nov 25, 2015 22:24:15 GMT -5
Hawaii should end up at Stanford.
Missouri currently has an RPI of 17, but just lost to Texas A&M. The Tigers should handle South Carolina, which leaves them squarely on the hosting bubble. What would be really interesting is if they end up losing that host spot...a trip to their archrival Kansas is very likely at that point.
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Post by 5280volleyball on Nov 25, 2015 22:26:11 GMT -5
I could see Kentucky hosting again, with Western Kentucky, Arkansas State, or Florida State as the #2 seed.
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Post by flvoldad on Nov 25, 2015 22:26:32 GMT -5
Forget about Missouri hosting...that is ridiculous...I am predicting either North Carolina or FSU hosting...2 Sec teams and 2 ACC teams
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Post by flvoldad on Nov 25, 2015 22:29:42 GMT -5
Kentucky hosting is just as crazy...They are lower in both RPI and Avca ...also all of their RPI strength came from other SEC teams...
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Post by cyclonepower on Nov 25, 2015 22:58:41 GMT -5
The hosting bubble just isn't as strong this year as the past. We have 15 locks and the closest contest to Mizzou for that 16th hosting slot are WKU, whose one good win came in the first match of the season against a team that would sweep the Hilltoppers now, and Arkansas State, whose best win is ... Southern Illinois?
North Carolina actually doesn't have that bad of a case, but its RPI is in the territory where not many hosts are chosen. Then, even further back, Florida State and Iowa State have resumes that are probably on par or better than Mizzou, but the RPI gap is definitely too big there.
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Post by speegs13 on Nov 25, 2015 23:02:45 GMT -5
So if Boise doesn't make in (or Wyoming replaces them, whichever), would that increase the likelihood of Colorado State being sent to BYU, or would it not matter at that point? I realize that Boise is within driving distance, so if they're in, they HAVE to go to BYU. I only ask this because Provo seems like the closest fly in location for CSU rather than Stanford (or any of the other west coast schools)... I'm just a casual fan, so I have no inside intel on how the seeding goes for the tournament. Thanks! Glad casual fan. Burger King whopper with cheese if you are right. Though, you aren't right. No way Louisville, Kentucky and Western Kentucky go the same place. No way. You must live in Colorado and enjoying the brownies. And no way Lipscomb and Harvard traveling that far. Sorry, you must be real casual. Though the Burger King whopper deal still stands. We can exchange money on Pay pal. That wasn't my bracket that I predicted, I was just commenting on someone else's. I only enjoy regular brownies, not the special kind
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Post by Dakota on Nov 25, 2015 23:33:03 GMT -5
The NCAA is going to leave out a team with a 24 RPI? They've done a lot dumber things in the past. I just don't see a case outside of RPI and this is the year - supposedly - that more factors will play a role.
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