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Post by Wiswell on Dec 4, 2015 9:17:26 GMT -5
I was really impressed by the number of Oregon fans in attendance. Since I once looked into scheduling a trip to Eugene for a visit to UO, just last year, I know how expensive the trip must have been. (I'd love to see Hayward Field some day). It seemed like in the earlier match there were zippo Miami fans.
As others have stated, Gillis was a huge difference maker. I think Kriskova, while kind of quiet, had her points at key moments though. I think the only real bad stretch was from Oregon's point 12 in set 2 to their point 5 in set 3, otherwise the Badgers might quite a few nice adjustments. The Oregon serve receive seemed as though a double contact could have been called every time it was an overhand receive. I was super impressed by their defense. Wow. They didn't let the ball touch the floor.
I don't quite understand the point of the funky offense Oregon runs, but I guess I shouldn't care. And while there were about two line calls that were questionable, I didn't miss 5 minutes of standing around while they looked under the hood to check that could have happened (not that I mind IR, more than it has no time limits).
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Post by Longhorn20 on Dec 4, 2015 9:24:09 GMT -5
It is what it is, the better team did come out on top. I think Oregon will be better next year since they get most of their team back. Scott really shied away from the middle today. Next year we need a 5-1 opp and a six rotation passing OH2. Johnson and Rasmussen??
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 4, 2015 9:35:07 GMT -5
I don't quite understand the point of the funky offense Oregon runs, but I guess I shouldn't care. The thing I don't get is the Oregon fascination with the fast low pass to the setter. They would just push and bump the pass on a flat trajectory basically at the setters head. Seems to make the setter's life really hard to run an offense with passes like that - and could force them to tip off where they are going. They were often on their knees. I don't see how it is deceptive once you have gotten used to the rhythm as a blocker.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Dec 4, 2015 9:40:06 GMT -5
I don't quite understand the point of the funky offense Oregon runs, but I guess I shouldn't care. The thing I don't get is the Oregon fascination with the fast low pass to the setter. They would just push and bump the pass on a flat trajectory basically at the setters head. Seems to make the setter's life really hard to run an offense with passes like that - and could force them to tip off where they are going. They were often on their knees. I don't see how it is deceptive once you have gotten used to the rhythm as a blocker. Has to make it extremely difficult for the setter to do what most of them do so well - glance at the other side of the net to decide where the best set should go. But with such a low pass, the setter really has no time to take that quick glance, she just has to go. But it's their system and what they have worked on with some success I guess
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 4, 2015 10:48:41 GMT -5
Hey, Ducks, well played match. Though I'm not sorry Wisconsin won, I am sorry that your season ended early. You are a scrappy team with good serving, a fast and wiley offense, and amazing floor defense. Valiantly fought.
Hey, Badgers, I'm proud of you. Keep it rolling.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 4, 2015 10:58:47 GMT -5
Also, attendance was 4563, which seems low for us, but it was (a) on a Thursday night and (b) when the Packers/Lions game kicked off at the same time as the first serve of the volleyball game.
The numbers may have been lower, but the intensity was right there. I hope tonight's crowd is just as intense.
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Post by aryia111 on Dec 4, 2015 11:00:24 GMT -5
In support of the Haleigh Nelson for All American campaign, I would like to point out that her 10 kill, .381, 4 block match tonight caused her season stats to go down. Not many players would have that be the case. Nelson with 4 digs on the night also
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Post by kokyu on Dec 4, 2015 16:33:34 GMT -5
Scott really shied away from the middle today. Next year we need a 5-1 opp and a six rotation passing OH2. Johnson and Rasmussen?? I've seen neither yet.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Dec 4, 2015 16:43:13 GMT -5
I've seen Johnson and she is really good. No idea how it will translate to college, but I think she has 6 rotation potential. I've only heard about Rasmussen, but I've heard she is a good reciever/defender!
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 4, 2015 16:44:04 GMT -5
Taylor Agost led us in kills and hit .458 last night and you want to find a different opposite? You can always be counted on to provide incorrect analysis.
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Post by alwayslearning on Dec 4, 2015 16:48:51 GMT -5
I wish you had been right about Oregon not being able to disturb Wisconsin's passing. It would have made for a less gut wrenching night for me. There were some ridiculous Carlini sets of less than perfect passes, though. Your emotional investment in your own team made the match seem more precarious than it actually was. Wisconsin didn't dominate, but they were never in any real danger of losing control of that match. I disagree -- the Ducks had a chance to really seize the momentum and set 3 when the Badgers came out flat after intermission. Up 5-1, they proceeded to make a series of errors. In hindsight, it's easy to say the Badgers never lost control. Oregon failed to seize the moment, which has been their downfall all season. I'm not saying the Badgers played poorly or were not the better team; I'm just saying that the match was hanging in the balance there for a brief period.
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Post by kokyu on Dec 4, 2015 17:05:49 GMT -5
Taylor Agost led us in kills and hit .458 last night and you want to find a different opposite? You can always be counted on to provide incorrect analysis. Never said she shouldn't be given a chance to see if she can hit/play back row. You shouldn't be so defensive/reactive.
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Post by timduckforlife on Dec 4, 2015 18:16:37 GMT -5
I don't quite understand the point of the funky offense Oregon runs, but I guess I shouldn't care. The thing I don't get is the Oregon fascination with the fast low pass to the setter. They would just push and bump the pass on a flat trajectory basically at the setters head. Seems to make the setter's life really hard to run an offense with passes like that - and could force them to tip off where they are going. They were often on their knees. I don't see how it is deceptive once you have gotten used to the rhythm as a blocker. Even as a Duck fan, I still don't understand the fascination of it either. I thiink when it works, everything can move so fast, it's much harder for the defense to react. Because by the time you think the ball should be getting to the setter, the hittters are already hitting. It puts a ton of pressure on the defensee. That is, when it works. And that requires spot on passing. One of the reasons I've always felt like Amanda Benson is completely underrated as a libero is because of this. There is a ton of pressure placed on her, hell they even have a 2 person serve receive as well, so they can get their hitters going fast. Personally, I think going this fast is a little counterproductive in the long run. I can definitely see timmes in a match where putting the pedal to the metal on going 120mph will work. But I honestly feel that they can slow the passes down, which will in turn help out their setter(s) and their offense. And they can still go fast, but a slower pass also gives the hitters a tick or 2 of time to get set up better as well. But thats just my opinion.
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Post by kokyu on Dec 4, 2015 18:58:32 GMT -5
Well Scott's obviously become very adept at setting balls overhand below her chest level. Quick passing has a couple of advantages, the trajectory to the setter being more direct decreases the difficulty in accuracy off difficult serves and hits. This relieves pressure off "shorter" setters, especially in 6-2 where overpasses are minimized. Having to pass 45% of the court, the low passing helps relieve pressure off the passer as well.
I think the quick passing should be used like quick setting, under conditions which give advantage to use them! In a scramble rally if the defender knows more than one hitter's out of position then it's better to pass/dig higher to allow hitters to transition. During the Plum years quick passing and setting was used exactly this way, it wasn't forced in every play. It's good for Moore to challenge the team but sometimes it looks like the desperate drone offense Karch was forcing first couple years on the NT and they have 6' 4" outsides with more tolerance for successful plays.
Having quick, hut, and regular passing/setting deceives the defense way better than having just one tempo all the time.
And to bsand, Plum's still the best American setter ever and real shame Karch dropped her for not following his stillborn drone offense couple years ago.
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 4, 2015 21:41:22 GMT -5
The thing I don't get is the Oregon fascination with the fast low pass to the setter. They would just push and bump the pass on a flat trajectory basically at the setters head. Seems to make the setter's life really hard to run an offense with passes like that - and could force them to tip off where they are going. They were often on their knees. I don't see how it is deceptive once you have gotten used to the rhythm as a blocker. Even as a Duck fan, I still don't understand the fascination of it either. I thiink when it works, everything can move so fast, it's much harder for the defense to react. Because by the time you think the ball should be getting to the setter, the hittters are already hitting. It puts a ton of pressure on the defensee. That is, when it works. And that requires spot on passing. One of the reasons I've always felt like Amanda Benson is completely underrated as a libero is because of this. There is a ton of pressure placed on her, hell they even have a 2 person serve receive as well, so they can get their hitters going fast. Personally, I think going this fast is a little counterproductive in the long run. I can definitely see timmes in a match where putting the pedal to the metal on going 120mph will work. But I honestly feel that they can slow the passes down, which will in turn help out their setter(s) and their offense. And they can still go fast, but a slower pass also gives the hitters a tick or 2 of time to get set up better as well. But thats just my opinion. I also wonder if this passing style will hurt Benson's development (after Oregon) in the long run as a lot of setters like the higher passes. I can also see being counterproductive if the other team is just much better at blocking and can read the plays well. Every hit will go straight to the block or will be covered.
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