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Post by Wiswell on Dec 2, 2015 14:26:33 GMT -5
You know who pays the bills when the Badgers are in the playoffs at home and the splash page is MBB.
No links to stats page yet, but, I did find this:
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Post by kokyu on Dec 2, 2015 14:35:30 GMT -5
Have the Ducks already arrived in Madison?
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Post by hammer on Dec 2, 2015 14:40:35 GMT -5
I am quite sure Oregon and their fans would love for Wisconsin to target their libero on the serve. Not trying to demean her in anyway, all I know about oregon is based off their stats and record. Looking at the stats, they have 2 players that receive the bulk of the serves - Benson and Vander Weide. Just looking at serve receive percents, Benson has a .932 while Vander Weide has a .966. I understand that some people feel serve receive percentage is meaningless, I do not agree and this is all I have to go off of in comparison and looking for ways to beat them. So which way would you go? The one that has proven over an entire season to have a higher percentage? Or the one where it looks like you will get more OOS plays and potential aces? If it isn't woking you can adjust. But would you not take that shot? What you fail to understand is that Benson is one of the best passers in the Pac. You will see many of her passes heading to zone 3 near the tape, with little arc and no spin. Now ask yourself: Is that the type of pass you need to run a fast diverse attack? |
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Post by buckypete on Dec 2, 2015 14:43:49 GMT -5
It's a simple business with Oregon. All teams must pass well to win. Ducks have to pass extremely well, low, and fast to win. Wisconsin has not seen an offense like this all season. The Ducks not only play fast, they run a lot of combo, x, and gimmick plays between the MH's and OH's. I'm hoping that having Page, the middle, back will engergize them. Oregon still blocks badly and plays blase defense at times. Both teams are playing their best right now, but Wisconsin hasn't been tested in the last month, so I'll go with the Ducks in five. It has been interesting to see all the points about the unique and quick Oregon offense, but all the somewhat ignored points about what appears to be a very "meh" at best Oregon defense. If the Oregon defense isn't that strong, they will not win. The teams that have been able to give the Badgers a challenge have been able to keep the ball off the floor quite well and get a good block up. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 2, 2015 14:48:25 GMT -5
Not trying to demean her in anyway, all I know about oregon is based off their stats and record. Looking at the stats, they have 2 players that receive the bulk of the serves - Benson and Vander Weide. Just looking at serve receive percents, Benson has a .932 while Vander Weide has a .966. I understand that some people feel serve receive percentage is meaningless, I do not agree and this is all I have to go off of in comparison and looking for ways to beat them. So which way would you go? The one that has proven over an entire season to have a higher percentage? Or the one where it looks like you will get more OOS plays and potential aces? If it isn't woking you can adjust. But would you not take that shot? What you fail to understand is that Benson is one of the best passers in the Pac. You will see many of her passes heading to zone 3 near the tape, with little arc and no spin. Now ask yourself: Is that the type of pass you need to run a fast diverse attack? Um, it doesn't matter one bit how fast the pass is...the set and the speed are generated by the setter. The opposing defense will not move following a serve based on how fast the pass this. That is a silly comment. All that matters is how fast and how deceptively the ball comes from the setter. Oh, and the setter is in zone 7 along the net. I get what zone 3 is, but it's not the normal nomenclature. |
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Post by tomclen on Dec 2, 2015 14:53:19 GMT -5
I don't think Oregon has the ability this year to get to the championship match again. But, what they do have, IMO, is the ability to get hot for a match or two and defeat any of the 64 teams in the tournament.
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Post by kokyu on Dec 2, 2015 14:57:11 GMT -5
It's a simple business with Oregon. All teams must pass well to win. Ducks have to pass extremely well, low, and fast to win. Wisconsin has not seen an offense like this all season. The Ducks not only play fast, they run a lot of combo, x, and gimmick plays between the MH's and OH's. I'm hoping that having Page, the middle, back will engergize them. Oregon still blocks badly and plays blase defense at times. Both teams are playing their best right now, but Wisconsin hasn't been tested in the last month, so I'll go with the Ducks in five. It has been interesting to see all the points about the unique and quick Oregon offense, but all the somewhat ignored points about what appears to be a very "meh" at best Oregon defense. If the Oregon defense isn't that strong, they will not win. The teams that have been able to give the Badgers a challenge have been able to keep the ball off the floor quite well and get a good block up. Their blocking's weak but their back row defense is very strong and Benson never sets high balls like every other libero in the country. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 2, 2015 14:57:19 GMT -5
I don't think Oregon has the ability this year to get to the championship match again. But, what they do have, IMO, is the ability to get hot for a match or two and defeat any of the 64 teams in the tournament. Sure. That's probably true of about 20 teams in the tourney. However, OR has failed to beat the top teams in the PAC, with the exception of UCLA. I know they're supposedly "getting hot," but hard to judge given they haven't done much against the top teams but take a game. |
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Post by kokyu on Dec 2, 2015 14:59:01 GMT -5
I don't think Oregon has the ability this year to get to the championship match again. But, what they do have, IMO, is the ability to get hot for a match or two and defeat any of the 64 teams in the tournament. Sure. That's probably true of about 20 teams in the tourney. However, OR has failed to beat the top teams in the PAC, with the exception of UCLA. I know they're supposedly "getting hot," but hard to judge given they haven't done much against the top teams but take a game. Oregon lost almost 20 deuce sets this year so it's a matter of correcting one or two unforced errors which they've been doing. |
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 2, 2015 14:58:38 GMT -5
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Post by kokyu on Dec 2, 2015 15:04:01 GMT -5
Thread poll has Ducks around 26% to win, better than Pablo.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 2, 2015 15:04:49 GMT -5
It's a simple business with Oregon. All teams must pass well to win. Ducks have to pass extremely well, low, and fast to win. Wisconsin has not seen an offense like this all season. The Ducks not only play fast, they run a lot of combo, x, and gimmick plays between the MH's and OH's. I'm hoping that having Page, the middle, back will engergize them. Oregon still blocks badly and plays blase defense at times. Both teams are playing their best right now, but Wisconsin hasn't been tested in the last month, so I'll go with the Ducks in five. It has been interesting to see all the points about the unique and quick Oregon offense, but all the somewhat ignored points about what appears to be a very "meh" at best Oregon defense. If the Oregon defense isn't that strong, they will not win. The teams that have been able to give the Badgers a challenge have been able to keep the ball off the floor quite well and get a good block up. Then I can only hope our defense can be as good as Arkansas'. |
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Post by tomclen on Dec 2, 2015 15:07:55 GMT -5
It has been interesting to see all the points about the unique and quick Oregon offense, but all the somewhat ignored points about what appears to be a very "meh" at best Oregon defense. If the Oregon defense isn't that strong, they will not win. The teams that have been able to give the Badgers a challenge have been able to keep the ball off the floor quite well and get a good block up. Then I can only hope our defense can be as good as Arkansas'.  |
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 2, 2015 15:08:58 GMT -5
Have the Ducks already arrived in Madison? According to their twitter page, appears that it was midnight last night. Three planes. Classes, last practice, then heading out, I imagine. How long would that flight be? 3.5 hours? |
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 2, 2015 15:09:31 GMT -5
It has been interesting to see all the points about the unique and quick Oregon offense, but all the somewhat ignored points about what appears to be a very "meh" at best Oregon defense. If the Oregon defense isn't that strong, they will not win. The teams that have been able to give the Badgers a challenge have been able to keep the ball off the floor quite well and get a good block up. Then I can only hope our defense can be as good as Arkansas'. Arkansas' defense wasn't very good. The badgers hit 0.293 in that match. The badgers block was just not working, and much of the early part of the year. Couldn't stop the slide at all. The badgers defense was a general problem in the beginning of the year. But it got to be best in conference even with that slow start. |
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