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Post by OHVBKING on Apr 27, 2024 13:23:22 GMT -5
USC is a train wreck. As a private school how can they allow this crap to take place on their campus. I don't care what side you are on, this is just BS.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 27, 2024 13:32:55 GMT -5
USC is a train wreck. As a private school how can they allow this crap to take place on their campus. I don't care what side you are on, this is just BS. I'm not sure that is the take home message At USC, arrests. At UCLA, hands off. Why pro-Palestinian protests have not blown up on UC campusesSo far, the demonstrations by pro-Palestinian demonstrators have been peaceful at UCLA, while across town, the LAPD arrested 93 protesters at USC. At USC, Los Angeles police officers in riot gear swarmed the campus, arresting 93 pro-Palestinian protesters and clearing their tent encampment. Across town at UCLA, scores of Palestinian supporters set up about 20 tents, created a perimeter around their “Palestine Solidarity Encampment” and peacefully protested day and night — all without arrests, suspensions or intervention by campus staff, who watched from the sidelines.
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Post by trojansc on Apr 27, 2024 13:33:43 GMT -5
USC is a train wreck. As a private school how can they allow this crap to take place on their campus. I don't care what side you are on, this is just BS. I guess I need clarification. There's been 3 key events in the recent timeline: -Are you saying USC was wrong to disallow the valedictorian to speak at commencement? This was part I -Or USC was wrong for 'allowing' the subsequent protests to take place? -Or was USC wrong for cancelling the main commencement ceremony?
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Post by jcvball22 on Apr 27, 2024 15:44:55 GMT -5
USC is a train wreck. As a private school how can they allow this crap to take place on their campus. I don't care what side you are on, this is just BS. I'm not sure that is the take home message At USC, arrests. At UCLA, hands off. Why pro-Palestinian protests have not blown up on UC campusesSo far, the demonstrations by pro-Palestinian demonstrators have been peaceful at UCLA, while across town, the LAPD arrested 93 protesters at USC. At USC, Los Angeles police officers in riot gear swarmed the campus, arresting 93 pro-Palestinian protesters and clearing their tent encampment. Across town at UCLA, scores of Palestinian supporters set up about 20 tents, created a perimeter around their “Palestine Solidarity Encampment” and peacefully protested day and night — all without arrests, suspensions or intervention by campus staff, who watched from the sidelines. I'm confused why any of this is in a Future of USC volleyball thread and not on Off The Net?
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 27, 2024 16:01:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure that is the take home message At USC, arrests. At UCLA, hands off. Why pro-Palestinian protests have not blown up on UC campusesSo far, the demonstrations by pro-Palestinian demonstrators have been peaceful at UCLA, while across town, the LAPD arrested 93 protesters at USC. At USC, Los Angeles police officers in riot gear swarmed the campus, arresting 93 pro-Palestinian protesters and clearing their tent encampment. Across town at UCLA, scores of Palestinian supporters set up about 20 tents, created a perimeter around their “Palestine Solidarity Encampment” and peacefully protested day and night — all without arrests, suspensions or intervention by campus staff, who watched from the sidelines. I'm confused why any of this is in a Future of USC volleyball thread and not on Off The Net? Because it is about college campuses and the impact on college athletes and their peers, including vb players, not about which candidate is older or has more indictments, and it is vb players that have been forwarding me social media posts from USC and other campuses where they are worried it could spread and happen to them.
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Post by brooselee on Apr 27, 2024 16:02:30 GMT -5
Easy for us keyboard warrior questioning the decision. We don’t have to be held accountable is something tragically happened.
Maybe the people making the decision are “spineless” but they are also the ones who have to be held accountable if death or injuries were to happen.
If the most important thing is the safety of the students then they did the right thing. It’s only a ceremony. Hundred of student can move on to their next phase in life in good health.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 27, 2024 16:09:51 GMT -5
Easy for us keyboard warrior questioning the decision. We don’t have to be held accountable is something tragically happened. Maybe the people making thr decision as spineless but they are also the ones who have to be held accountable if death or injuries were to happen. If the most important thing is the safety of the students then they did the right thing. It’s only a ceremony. Hundred of student can move on to their next phase in life in good health. That is easy to say when you haven't had two of the most important rites of passage taken from you. I don't know what specific threats they are mitigating, but the college across town is handling the situation very differently. To be fair, UCLA's graduation is a month later, so time is on their side.
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Post by jcvball22 on Apr 27, 2024 16:43:36 GMT -5
I'm confused why any of this is in a Future of USC volleyball thread and not on Off The Net? Because it is about college campuses and the impact on college athletes and their peers, including vb players, not about which candidate is older or has more indictments, and it is vb players that have been forwarding me social media posts from USC and other campuses where they are worried it could spread and happen to them. Personally, I think it is an unmitigated disaster of a decision by the school. Stupid, petty, and makes the administration look feckless. And there are many schools also looking stupid in the same vein right now. I just don't think this discussion belongs here.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 27, 2024 17:17:25 GMT -5
Because it is about college campuses and the impact on college athletes and their peers, including vb players, not about which candidate is older or has more indictments, and it is vb players that have been forwarding me social media posts from USC and other campuses where they are worried it could spread and happen to them. Personally, I think it is an unmitigated disaster of a decision by the school. Stupid, petty, and makes the administration look feckless. And there are many schools also looking stupid in the same vein right now. I just don't think this discussion belongs here. I agree with you about the schools actions. I think you are as thoughtless as the administration to dismiss its impact to this class that has already been through cancellation of HS graduation and playing through Covid. That part has been discussed here in depth, and this is the culmination of those prior discussions. The final shoe to drop, so to speak.
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Post by jcvball22 on Apr 27, 2024 17:25:22 GMT -5
Personally, I think it is an unmitigated disaster of a decision by the school. Stupid, petty, and makes the administration look feckless. And there are many schools also looking stupid in the same vein right now. I just don't think this discussion belongs here. I agree with you about the schools actions. I think you are as thoughtless as the administration to dismiss its impact to this class that has already been through cancellation of HS graduation and playing through Covid. That part has been discussed here in depth, and this is the culmination of those prior discussions. The final shoe to drop, so to speak. I work with students every single day. I am well aware of the impact COVID and the current climate has had on all of them and their milestones. It is not unique to USC and it's students. This is a bigger discussion than plopping it the USC thread and, again, belongs OTN. Unless your motives are to somehow cast it as a moral failing attached to the volleyball program?
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 27, 2024 17:30:34 GMT -5
Because it is about college campuses and the impact on college athletes and their peers, including vb players, not about which candidate is older or has more indictments, and it is vb players that have been forwarding me social media posts from USC and other campuses where they are worried it could spread and happen to them. Personally, I think it is an unmitigated disaster of a decision by the school. Stupid, petty, and makes the administration look feckless. And there are many schools also looking stupid in the same vein right now. I just don't think this discussion belongs here. All one has to do is compare the situation at UC campuses (or public institutions except Texas) versus the private institutions to see how badly USC and privates are handling things. But also a discussion for another part of the forum.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Apr 27, 2024 17:45:02 GMT -5
Yeah, but Reggie got his Heisman back!
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 27, 2024 18:16:35 GMT -5
Yeah, but Reggie got his Heisman back! Yeah, the president was right on top of that announcement, under her name.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 27, 2024 18:22:16 GMT -5
I work with students every single day. I am well aware of the impact COVID and the current climate has had on all of them and their milestones. It is not unique to USC and it's students. This is a bigger discussion than plopping it the USC thread and, again, belongs OTN. Unless your motives are to somehow cast it as a moral failing attached to the volleyball program? Difference of opinion. I don't think DUIs belong here, but a discussion of them is up to 40 pages. I posted under USC because that is who is mostly affected for now, and hopefully as we get through June that will remain the case.
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Post by gobruins on Apr 28, 2024 4:55:50 GMT -5
I work with students every single day. I am well aware of the impact COVID and the current climate has had on all of them and their milestones. It is not unique to USC and it's students. This is a bigger discussion than plopping it the USC thread and, again, belongs OTN. Unless your motives are to somehow cast it as a moral failing attached to the volleyball program? Difference of opinion. I don't think DUIs belong here, but a discussion of them is up to 40 pages. I posted under USC because that is who is mostly affected for now, and hopefully as we get through June that will remain the case. The DUI involved a volleyball player. If a USC volleyball player was arrested during the protests, then it would have some relevancy here.
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