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Post by oldmanred on Feb 27, 2016 14:05:12 GMT -5
Only six months until the season's start? Only 6 months? Don't you mean; Oh no; six whole months? GO HUSKERS
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Post by bkedane on Feb 27, 2016 14:05:23 GMT -5
So you think "Dani Bushboom" is a better recruiter than Salima Rockwell? Another genius observation about an issue you know nothing about. First suggestion: learn the names of the people you are talking about suggestion: learn something about recruiting. Dani Bushboom Kelly is a much better recruiter than Salima in my opinion but you are entitled to your opinion. Until I see a couple top elite O/Hs commited to PSU I see no evidence to change that outlook in the slightest. It looks like Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin have learned more about recruiting in the past two years than PSU based upon PrepVolleyball class ratings. I don't need to be a genius to see who is winning on the court and the recruiting scene lately and it isn't PSU. www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205534182You can keep talking about things you don't know anything about. Again though, I encourage you to learn the names of the people you are talking about. At least that would be a small bit of progress from you. "Bushboom" -- keep trying.
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Post by gnu2vball on Feb 27, 2016 14:22:17 GMT -5
Only six months until the season's start? Only 6 months? Don't you mean; Oh no; six whole months? GO HUSKERS Hey! That's something about which I have some knowledge. Go easy on me.
In fairness, I couldn't even complete an easy response without the edit function.
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Post by bkedane on Feb 27, 2016 14:27:14 GMT -5
Just a general question, is "You don't know what you're talking about" a fair response? I can see that it is if the person does not know what they're talking about--especially if the responding person "knows" what they're talking about. But when it comes right down to it, how is that type of response much better than, "Oh yeah?" One thing PSU threads seem to share is that few of the participants actually know anything and "those who do" are seldom willing to share. I sure don't have an answer. Every year or so I get mildly perturbed over the lack of real information and the back and forth that ensues. Only six months until the season's start? When MTC pretends to know things I think it's good that those who do know point out that he's simply inventing fairytales. For example, he said that PSU had two staff openings well after one had already been filled. He said that PSU tried but failed to hire someone who was never a candidate for a position at PSU. He said PSU would be going all of spring season without hiring a replacement for the departed assistant coach. That search is also over. When someone knowingly lies about the program I think it's good that I and others sometimes offer correction. I fail to see why instead of inventing lies about the program he doesn't simply report that he does not know some of the things he wishes he did know. PSU will announce things when PSU chooses to do so. As for who knows and who does not know (I'm not sure what you mean by the scare quotes you use), it's pretty clear over time that MTC has no idea what is going on. With others of us I suggest you can similarly tell from the track records who knows and who does not know what they are talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 14:45:54 GMT -5
Just a general question, is "You don't know what you're talking about" a fair response? I can see that it is if the person does not know what they're talking about--especially if the responding person "knows" what they're talking about. But when it comes right down to it, how is that type of response much better than, "Oh yeah?" One thing PSU threads seem to share is that few of the participants actually know anything and "those who do" are seldom willing to share. I sure don't have an answer. Every year or so I get mildly perturbed over the lack of real information and the back and forth that ensues. Only six months until the season's start? When MTC pretends to know things I think it's good that those who do know point out that he's simply inventing fairytales. For example, he said that PSU had two staff openings well after one had already been filled. He said that PSU tried but failed to hire someone who was never a candidate for a position at PSU. He said PSU would be going all of spring season without hiring a replacement for the departed assistant coach. That search is also over. When someone knowingly lies about the program I think it's good that I and others sometimes offer correction. I fail to see why instead of inventing lies about the program he doesn't simply report that he does not know some of the things he wishes he did know. PSU will announce things when PSU chooses to do so. As for who knows and who does not know (I'm not sure what you mean by the scare quotes you use), it's pretty clear over time that MTC has no idea what is going on. With others of us I suggest you can similarly tell from the track records who knows and who does not know what they are talking about. Speaking of info.
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Post by gnu2vball on Feb 27, 2016 15:45:20 GMT -5
Just a general question, is "You don't know what you're talking about" a fair response? I can see that it is if the person does not know what they're talking about--especially if the responding person "knows" what they're talking about. But when it comes right down to it, how is that type of response much better than, "Oh yeah?" One thing PSU threads seem to share is that few of the participants actually know anything and "those who do" are seldom willing to share. I sure don't have an answer. Every year or so I get mildly perturbed over the lack of real information and the back and forth that ensues. Only six months until the season's start? When MTC pretends to know things I think it's good that those who do know point out that he's simply inventing fairytales. For example, he said that PSU had two staff openings well after one had already been filled. He said that PSU tried but failed to hire someone who was never a candidate for a position at PSU. He said PSU would be going all of spring season without hiring a replacement for the departed assistant coach. That search is also over. When someone knowingly lies about the program I think it's good that I and others sometimes offer correction. I fail to see why instead of inventing lies about the program he doesn't simply report that he does not know some of the things he wishes he did know. PSU will announce things when PSU chooses to do so. As for who knows and who does not know (I'm not sure what you mean by the scare quotes you use), it's pretty clear over time that MTC has no idea what is going on. With others of us I suggest you can similarly tell from the track records who knows and who does not know what they are talking about. Thanks for the response and for explaining why you feel as you do. Being among those who don't know, or for the most part don't track well enough to know, I appreciate you giving me some perspective that all statements aren't necessarily equal.
"Scare quotes" is a new expression to me, I can sorta get the meeting out of context.
As you say, PSU will announce things at a time and in a way of its choosing.
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Post by MTC on Feb 27, 2016 15:45:52 GMT -5
When MTC pretends to know things I think it's good that those who do know point out that he's simply inventing fairytales. For example, he said that PSU had two staff openings well after one had already been filled. He said that PSU tried but failed to hire someone who was never a candidate for a position at PSU. He said PSU would be going all of spring season without hiring a replacement for the departed assistant coach. That search is also over. When someone knowingly lies about the program I think it's good that I and others sometimes offer correction. I fail to see why instead of inventing lies about the program he doesn't simply report that he does not know some of the things he wishes he did know. PSU will announce things when PSU chooses to do so. As for who knows and who does not know (I'm not sure what you mean by the scare quotes you use), it's pretty clear over time that MTC has no idea what is going on. With others of us I suggest you can similarly tell from the track records who knows and who does not know what they are talking about. Speaking of info. Don't you just love it when they play the " I know what you don't but I won't share it with you" game. I get frustrated at all the secrecy going on at Penn State volleyball. Russ Rose is the only PSU coach that goes out of his way to keep information from PSU fans. Thankfully John Cook understands that fans want to know "what's up" with their teams and fully provides news updates.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 15:51:52 GMT -5
Don't you just love it when they play the " I know what you don't but I won't share it with you" game. I get frustrated at all the secrecy going on at Penn State volleyball. Russ Rose is the only PSU coach that goes out of his way to keep information from PSU fans. Thankfully John Cook understands that fans want to know "what's up" with their teams and fully provides news updates. Rose's job is to get his team and players ready for season not to post everything going on to public. I'm sure everyone in his program is updated.
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Post by MTC on Feb 27, 2016 15:54:01 GMT -5
Dani Bushboom Kelly is a much better recruiter than Salima in my opinion but you are entitled to your opinion. Until I see a couple top elite O/Hs commited to PSU I see no evidence to change that outlook in the slightest. It looks like Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin have learned more about recruiting in the past two years than PSU based upon PrepVolleyball class ratings. I don't need to be a genius to see who is winning on the court and the recruiting scene lately and it isn't PSU. www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205534182You can keep talking about things you don't know anything about. Again though, I encourage you to learn the names of the people you are talking about. At least that would be a small bit of progress from you. "Bushboom" -- keep trying. Sorry Dani that I am a lousy speller. You are special in my book.
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Post by gnu2vball on Feb 27, 2016 15:58:05 GMT -5
Don't you just love it when they play the " I know what you don't but I won't share it with you" game. I get frustrated at all the secrecy going on at Penn State volleyball. Russ Rose is the only PSU coach that goes out of his way to keep information from PSU fans. Thankfully John Cook understands that fans want to know "what's up" with their teams and fully provides news updates. How Coach Rose, and the PSU Women's Volleyball program, controls information is a favorite subject of mine. It came up recently in a PSU-related site.
Here's an excerpt of what I posted there (I hate to type): Not for a minute do I believe that Coach Rose will get much if anything of value from the PSU "faniverse" if he were to provide more information about his program's goings on. Keeping things on the down low is probably better for the players. If I were being completely honest, I'd probably admit that I'm better off as things are--it's not as if knowing (in February) who has the inside track as the next right side hitter will really do me any good.
As someone who used to follow goings on in closed societies, I find good information control as something to be admired. I'm very impressed at how Coach Rose controls his message. PSU women's volleyball really exercises good information control and if there are on volleytalk who really do "know," they seem to have bought into Coach Rose's methods.
Until more information comes our way, I continue to make snarky comments--because I like to.
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Post by MTC on Feb 27, 2016 16:01:01 GMT -5
Don't you just love it when they play the " I know what you don't but I won't share it with you" game. I get frustrated at all the secrecy going on at Penn State volleyball. Russ Rose is the only PSU coach that goes out of his way to keep information from PSU fans. Thankfully John Cook understands that fans want to know "what's up" with their teams and fully provides news updates. Rose's job is to get his team and players ready for season not to post everything going on to public. I'm sure everyone in his program is updated. You mean everyone is updated as much as RR wants them to be. I have been told (from multiple sources) that he frequently tells people not to share any VB info with others until he releases it.
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Post by gnu2vball on Feb 27, 2016 16:20:15 GMT -5
Rose's job is to get his team and players ready for season not to post everything going on to public. I'm sure everyone in his program is updated. You mean everyone is updated as much as RR wants them to be. I have been told (from multiple sources) that he frequently tells people not to share any VB info with others until he releases it. It has been said that only one person can keep a secret. I'm still waiting for his number to show on my caller ID.
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Post by MTC on Feb 27, 2016 16:51:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 17:23:00 GMT -5
It's only been one or two years since PSU had the best recruiting class EVER. Stop being ridiculous. IMO it was overrated just like Stanford's 2012 class. But anyway you can't depend on one good recruiting class every 4 years as we are learning now. Things change very quickly in college sports and press clippings are very temporary. Next season PSU will only start one AA player who was last seen walking with crutches. To be fair, Stanford, IMO, would have probably won at least one (perhaps two) National Championship(s) with that 2012 class if PSU hadn't gotten in their way. If memory serves me correctly, Stanford was rated #1 most of the 2014 season. Also, I believe they were the 2nd best team in the country in 2013, especially at the end of the season.
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Post by CoolBean on Feb 27, 2016 19:44:03 GMT -5
Rose's job is to get his team and players ready for season not to post everything going on to public. I'm sure everyone in his program is updated. You mean everyone is updated as much as RR wants them to be. I have been told (from multiple sources) that he frequently tells people not to share any VB info with others until he releases it. You are full of %*$#!
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