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Post by gnu2vball on Feb 29, 2016 5:49:33 GMT -5
I know I've advocated, as far back as the 20th Century, that the English Language needs a punctuation mark for sarcasm. Emojis aren't enough.
I'm so embarrassed.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 29, 2016 10:14:21 GMT -5
Don't you just love it when they play the " I know what you don't but I won't share it with you" game. I get frustrated at all the secrecy going on at Penn State volleyball. Russ Rose is the only PSU coach that goes out of his way to keep information from PSU fans. Thankfully John Cook understands that fans want to know "what's up" with their teams and fully provides news updates. I would like to ask a fair and honest question. How is it that in a matter of about three months you went from bashing Nebraska volleyball and calling their coach a cheater, liar....... to them now being the gold standard? Also how PSU and their coach were the absolute gold standard in every way to what appears to be the opposite all of a sudden. What precipitated that? They appear to me to be the same programs and people.
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Post by vbprisoner on Feb 29, 2016 11:43:04 GMT -5
This thread has officially eclipsed the Texas and Nebraska threads for laughable posts by team fans!
How many teams can say they had a bad or disappointing year and still were a top 10 team in rankings? This year if passing improves then everything improves and you could be back in the hunt.
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Post by vbprisoner on Feb 29, 2016 11:44:47 GMT -5
Don't you just love it when they play the " I know what you don't but I won't share it with you" game. I get frustrated at all the secrecy going on at Penn State volleyball. Russ Rose is the only PSU coach that goes out of his way to keep information from PSU fans. Thankfully John Cook understands that fans want to know "what's up" with their teams and fully provides news updates. I would like to ask a fair and honest question. How is it that in a matter of about three months you went from bashing Nebraska volleyball and calling their coach a cheater, liar....... to them now being the gold standard? Also how PSU and their coach were the absolute gold standard in every way to what appears to be the opposite all of a sudden. What precipitated that? They appear to me to be the same programs and people. schizophrenic tendencies! LOL
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Post by vbprisoner on Feb 29, 2016 12:00:31 GMT -5
So you think "Dani Bushboom" is a better recruiter than Salima Rockwell? Another genius observation about an issue you know nothing about. First suggestion: learn the names of the people you are talking about suggestion: learn something about recruiting. Dani Bushboom Kelly is a much better recruiter than Salima in my opinion but you are entitled to your opinion. Until I see a couple top elite O/Hs commited to PSU I see no evidence to change that outlook in the slightest. It looks like Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin have learned more about recruiting in the past two years than PSU based upon PrepVolleyball class ratings. I don't need to be a genius to see who is winning on the court and the recruiting scene lately and it isn't PSU. www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205534182PSU was ranked #1 recruiting class in 2014! Granted Salima was not responsible for that class as she was at Texas when that class was committing........but she was the key recruiter in several top 5 classes at Texas and you saw her at every top tournament on a Saturday and Sunday at 8:00 AM until the final match watching every age group. She is a top recruiter and has only been back at PSU for 2 years so give her some time to get the 2017, 2018, etc.
Also, If I am a top 20 2015 recruit I am probably not going to consider PSU because they just got in the top prep ranked MB and OH in 2014 and had a couple AA still on the roster and I want to go somewhere where I know I will compete and great chance I will start as a Frosh.
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Post by akbar on Feb 29, 2016 13:16:50 GMT -5
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Post by MTC on Feb 29, 2016 15:44:30 GMT -5
Two years from the top ranked recruiting class. Overrated, they won a NC?. One year from a National Championship. How many years since a Nebraska, a Minnesota, a Wisconsin, a Stanford won an NC. Okay the rebuttal would be Nebraska last year, but how many years since then and how many NCs have they won? The expectations from "supposedly" PSU fans are unrealistic. Only Stanford can even sniff at the number of NCs that PSU has won. Since very few players from that top ranked class actually played for the PSU team when they won the NC, the best evidence for their talent will be the following three years. That gives them two more years to prove their mettle to the world. I'm not trying to be snarky but the problem is that too many players have not stepped up from that class. Your point is well taken and my expectations have proven to be unrealistic for PSU. The phrase that steel-sharpens-steel didn't seem to apply to PSU recently.
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Post by MTC on Feb 29, 2016 16:02:34 GMT -5
Don't you just love it when they play the " I know what you don't but I won't share it with you" game. I get frustrated at all the secrecy going on at Penn State volleyball. Russ Rose is the only PSU coach that goes out of his way to keep information from PSU fans. Thankfully John Cook understands that fans want to know "what's up" with their teams and fully provides news updates. I would like to ask a fair and honest question. How is it that in a matter of about three months you went from bashing Nebraska volleyball and calling their coach a cheater, liar....... to them now being the gold standard? Also how PSU and their coach were the absolute gold standard in every way to what appears to be the opposite all of a sudden. What precipitated that? They appear to me to be the same programs and people. You convinced me that I was wrong about Coach Cook and he was not doing anything improper. His coaching and recruiting have proven to be outstanding without any "best class ever" years. My expectations for PSU were unrealistic and I adjusted my outlook for the Lions for the next couple years. I am not like Hillary Clinton who claims to never make a mistake. I will continue to root for both teams and hope you can let this grudge fade into history.
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Post by MTC on Feb 29, 2016 16:04:26 GMT -5
This seems a little mean-spirited to me but you are allowed to your own opinion.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 29, 2016 16:07:39 GMT -5
I would like to ask a fair and honest question. How is it that in a matter of about three months you went from bashing Nebraska volleyball and calling their coach a cheater, liar....... to them now being the gold standard? Also how PSU and their coach were the absolute gold standard in every way to what appears to be the opposite all of a sudden. What precipitated that? They appear to me to be the same programs and people. You convinced me that I was wrong about Coach Cook and he was not doing anything improper. His coaching and recruiting have proven to be outstanding without any "best class ever" years. My expectations for PSU were unrealistic and I adjusted my outlook for the Lions for the next couple years. I am not like Hillary Clinton who claims to never make a mistake. I will continue to root for both teams and hope you can let this grudge fade into history. Not sure how I could have convinced of that when all I think I said was that you had no basis to make the claims about them that you did. You can root for whom ever you like, I never take issue with other opinions as long as there is some basis to it. Root away my friend!
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Post by Northern lights on Feb 29, 2016 16:17:49 GMT -5
This thread has officially eclipsed the Texas and Nebraska threads for laughable posts by team fans! How many teams can say they had a bad or disappointing year and still were a top 10 team in rankings? This year if passing improves then everything improves and you could be back in the hunt. At the risk of sounding repetitively boring, it's gonna take a lot more than improved passing. Win or lose they are the standard, but this year is shaping up to be the worst in recent memory.
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Post by vbprisoner on Feb 29, 2016 16:18:28 GMT -5
Two years from the top ranked recruiting class. Overrated, they won a NC?. One year from a National Championship. How many years since a Nebraska, a Minnesota, a Wisconsin, a Stanford won an NC. Okay the rebuttal would be Nebraska last year, but how many years since then and how many NCs have they won? The expectations from "supposedly" PSU fans are unrealistic. Only Stanford can even sniff at the number of NCs that PSU has won. Since very few players from that top ranked class actually played for the PSU team when they won the NC, the best evidence for their talent will be the following three years. That gives them two more years to prove their mettle to the world. I'm not trying to be snarky but the problem is that too many players have not stepped up from that class. Your point is well taken and my expectations have proven to be unrealistic for PSU. The phrase that steel-sharpens-steel didn't seem to apply to PSU recently. Top ranked 2014 class and results:
Washington - MB - starter, B1G FoY, led team in hitting %, was 3rd in kills Frantti, OH - starter, led team in Kills, 2 team AA, National FoY Lee, OH - played in 26 of 39 matches, had 12 kill in NCAA regional finals against Wisconsin L. Pierce, DS - played in 30 of 39 matches Reed - red shirt Thelen - she wasn't beating out Grant or Washington so saw limited action
I would say the class of 2014 were big contributors to the 2014 NC. When 2 of the 7 starters are from that class and were ranked 1st and 3rd on the team in kills per set they had an impact!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 16:30:29 GMT -5
Wow so many people jumping on the negativity train. Why not try and find positives, which their always is if u look hard enough. Psu is still good. They have created a impossible standard to maintain with what they did. I know they surely have things to work on but maintain some faith.
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Post by vbprisoner on Feb 29, 2016 16:41:33 GMT -5
Wow so many people jumping on the negativity train. Why not try and find positives, which their always is if u look hard enough. Psu is still good. They have created a impossible standard to maintain with what they did. I know they surely have things to work on but maintain some faith. I think I logged into the Bazaro VolleyTalk!
I can't believe I am defending PSU from one of its supposed loyal fans.
I can't do this anymore......I feel dirty!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 16:51:37 GMT -5
Wow so many people jumping on the negativity train. Why not try and find positives, which their always is if u look hard enough. Psu is still good. They have created a impossible standard to maintain with what they did. I know they surely have things to work on but maintain some faith. I think I logged into the Bazaro VolleyTalk!
I can't believe I am defending PSU from one of its supposed loyal fans.
I can't do this anymore......I feel dirty!
The moment things get tough they're Nebraska fan. Comming soon, to Texas page near you. When Nebraska doesn't want em, Texas will be next. Lol
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