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Post by volleyballjim on Jun 9, 2016 11:48:56 GMT -5
Read this in Dig: He (Casey) used passing into the net as a key offensive weapon. I followed Casey since I started watching pro beach, but not familiar with this. What is this and how is it an offensive weapon?
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Post by wang pu on Jun 9, 2016 11:51:38 GMT -5
Read this in Dig: He (Casey) used passing into the net as a key offensive weapon. I followed Casey since I started watching pro beach, but not familiar with this. What is this and how is it an offensive weapon? Jennings or Patterson?
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Post by ciscokeed on Jun 9, 2016 12:57:25 GMT -5
Sure he does. Along with purposely hitting out of bounds just to throw off the other team!
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Post by donnyb on Jun 9, 2016 13:10:21 GMT -5
I assume jenning. I've seen him dig some cuttys in the net on purpose which I assume teammates back into offense? Lol
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jun 9, 2016 13:37:46 GMT -5
That must be a mis quote, there is no Offensive play into the net. offensive plays go over the net.
Defensively, it is a great play to cover 1 armed stabs into the angle.
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Post by ciscokeed on Jun 9, 2016 14:11:02 GMT -5
It's never a great play. It's better then not getting the ball up but it sure doesn't make setting easier
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jun 9, 2016 14:50:17 GMT -5
It's never a great play. It's better then not getting the ball up but it sure doesn't make setting easier It is exactly a great play. One that wouldn't have been made if you didn't do it that way. Stab into the net, blocker able to throw something up, and a swing for a point. Great play.
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Post by ciscokeed on Jun 9, 2016 15:21:44 GMT -5
You miss my point. If the only thing you can do is stab it in the net-fine. But setting out of the net is far more difficult then if I pop the ball up without going in the net....the next step in that is why not take a short serve and whack it into the net and watch my partner flail to make that play. Digging into the net on purpose is never a great play- but it's okay if you're in a Mach 5 sellout to get the ball and that happens...
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jun 9, 2016 15:27:33 GMT -5
You miss my point. If the only thing you can do is stab it in the net-fine. But setting out of the net is far more difficult then if I pop the ball up without going in the net....the next step in that is why not take a short serve and whack it into the net and watch my partner flail to make that play. Digging into the net on purpose is never a great play- but it's okay if you're in a Mach 5 sellout to get the ball and that happens... Thought that would be a given, that it was the only choice.
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Post by volleyballjim on Jun 10, 2016 1:36:26 GMT -5
Yes it's Casey Jennings, and I doubt very much that DIG magazine had it "wrong". Still waiting for the defacto call on this. . .
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Post by guest2 on Jun 10, 2016 3:50:24 GMT -5
I don't think its beyond the realm of possibility that DIG had it wrong, but I agree with JB that this is a valuable tool. In particular with driven balls. If you can just push the ball into the net with pace, then it will hang up and be a relatively easy play for your partner to set.
I don't think its a great tool to use when you can pop the ball up in the middle of the court for your partner, but the ball comes at all kinds of awkward angles and speeds. I'd rather set a ball that rockets into the net than one thats 30 feet high and spinning like a top.
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Post by love2vball on Jun 10, 2016 12:23:49 GMT -5
I have seen him do this unique manuver several times in tournaments in his later years. It has always been effective and precise. I always have come away shaking my head over it. Not because he pulled it off...but because after all of the years of training and reps that he even had the mental awareness to attempt it. Personally, I would never even think of trying it during play and would just attempt to make a standard type up like most of us. It wouldn't be that smart of a move on most public nets, but the AVP and FIVB equiptment is much more taught and so the action off the net is much more predictable and true. I cant remember the exact circumstances where he has used it, but I remember always thinking how quick the thought process was to do it.
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Post by spikeandserve on Jun 10, 2016 12:23:57 GMT -5
Haven't read the article yet, but had the opportunity to partner with Casey Jennings and see this up close. On cut shots when he would lay it out for a dig, often times instead of digging it directly to the blocker he would send it into the net. To be honest the first times he did this it kinda freaked me out but after a while I would expect it. Done well, the ball sits in the net and is very easy to control in transition. Casey is the only person I've seen do this.
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Post by sandyoldguy on Jun 10, 2016 13:13:47 GMT -5
Haven't read the article yet, but had the opportunity to partner with Casey Jennings and see this up close. On cut shots when he would lay it out for a dig, often times instead of digging it directly to the blocker he would send it into the net. To be honest the first times he did this it kinda freaked me out but after a while I would expect it. Done well, the ball sits in the net and is very easy to control in transition. Casey is the only person I've seen do this. Agree, played with Casey's Brother, Joe (Joey) for a few years. Used it often on cut shots, and short dump shots. Very effective and easy to set,when You know it is coming.
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Post by volleyballjim on Jun 10, 2016 13:17:47 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I "get it" now...makes sense....Hopefully this doesn't catch on as it seems clear it is a high level play on high level courts...;-)
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