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Post by gobruins on Nov 4, 2016 5:09:16 GMT -5
Is the 30 miles off campus rule as the crow flies, or street travel? I am thinking UCLA could host at the Pyramid at Long Beach State. There are no basketball games at Long Beach that weekend. Problem is that Long Beach State is slightly more than 30 miles from UCLA by road. I would suspect that, as the crow flies, it would be a little under 30 miles. As the crow flies. That starts to get expensive though. The arena must be booked from Thursday morning through Saturday evening plus there is a $12,000 guarantee and UCLA doesn't draw all that well to begin with let alone in Long Beach. If Long Beach State doesn't have anything else in the arena, I would think they would be willing to give UCLA a pretty good deal on rent. Also, UCLA has a very strong alumni base in the Long Beach area, so they may draw pretty well down there. But, bottom line, I would think that for the UCLA Athletic Department, $12,000 is not that much if it keeps the team from having to travel across the country, and gives them something of a home court advantage. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 4, 2016 6:50:37 GMT -5
Colorado State beats UNLV 3-2 and completes the season sweep over them. Huge match for the Rams. Doesn't get any easier for UNLV, as they have to play at Wyoming on Saturday When CSU goes to Boise that will probably decide the conference. CSU has the tiebreaker over UNLV and is one game ahead in the standings. Colorado St. and Boise St only meet once this season, so the winner of that match would also hold the tiebreaker. Wyoming can still win the conference, they could put UNLV at 4th place if they beat them Saturday! |
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Post by dfw on Nov 7, 2016 9:07:39 GMT -5
Anyone know the Big East tiebreakers?? It's possible 3 teams could finish 10-8 for spots #3 and #4 in BE Tourney. I believe head-to-head tie Breakers are:
1. Matches won
2. Sets won
3. Points
4. Record against team with best league record not involved in tie (Creighton)
That's all fine for head to head...how do you settle a 3-way tie? Same formula?
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Post by n00b on Nov 7, 2016 10:25:12 GMT -5
Anyone know the Big East tiebreakers?? It's possible 3 teams could finish 10-8 for spots #3 and #4 in BE Tourney. I believe head-to-head tie Breakers are: 1. Matches won 2. Sets won 3. Points 4. Record against team with best league record not involved in tie (Creighton) That's all fine for head to head...how do you settle a 3-way tie? Same formula? it's head-to-head matches, followed by head-to-head sets. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 9, 2016 15:32:34 GMT -5
Still updating this, but posting what I have for now.
Big Matches tonight:
Baylor vs. Texas
Utah / Oregon
Iowa/Nebraska
Kansas State / West Virginia
Purdue / Michigan State
Kentucky/Arkansas
Iowa State/Oklahoma
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Post by tempesthorn on Nov 9, 2016 15:46:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand how you are predicting Kansas to win the Big 12 conference but Texas to get the overall 3 seed in the tourney. IMO, Texas' only path to the 3 seed is to stay in a tie for the title (get the auto qualifier by virtue of the tiebreaker) or win it outright with a KU loss. Like Florida last year, if Texas with their high RPI doesn't win their conference I don't see the committee seeding them ahead of KU especially in a league with a true round robin.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 9, 2016 15:51:44 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand how you are predicting Kansas to win the Big 12 conference but Texas to get the overall 3 seed in the tourney. IMO, Texas' only path to the 3 seed is to stay in a tie for the title (get the auto qualifier by virtue of the tiebreaker) or win it outright with a KU loss. Like Florida last year, if Texas with their high RPI doesn't win their conference I don't see the committee seeding them ahead of KU especially in a league with a true round robin. I meant to change Texas to the AQ. I had KU last week. Fixed that - sorry. You can see in the at-large list I had KU listed as an at-large. |
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Post by n00b on Nov 9, 2016 21:34:14 GMT -5
Small correction... The A10 tournament will be hosted by Saint Louis next week, not Dayton.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 9, 2016 23:27:36 GMT -5
Small correction... The A10 tournament will be hosted by Saint Louis next week, not Dayton. Hmmm.. I thought the A-10 website had said highest seed hosts, but guess I was wrong. This is what I had listed now, let me know if you see any corrections: American East - at highest seed, Nov.18-20 (Albany/UNH) Atlantic 10 - at Saint Louis Nov.18-20 Atlantic Sun - at Lipcsomb, Nov. 17-19 Big East - at Butler, Nov.25-26 Big South - at Liberty, Nov.18-20 Colonial Athl - at UNCW, Nov. 18-20 Conference USA- at Rice, Nov. 18-20 Horizon League- at highest seed, Nov. 18-20 (Clev St) Metro Atlantic- at Fairfield, Nov. 18-20 Mid-American - at Northern Illinois, Nov. 17-20 Mid-Eastern - at Maryland Eastern Shore, Nov. 18-20 Missouri Vall - at Northern Iowa, Nov. 24-26 Northeast Conf- at highest seed, Nov. 19-20 (Sac Heart) Ohio Valley - at highest seed, Nov. 17-19 (Murray St) Patriot League- at highest seed, Nov. 19-20 (American) Big Sky - at highest seed, Nov. 17-19 (North Dakota) Southland - at Central Arkansas, Nov. 18-20 Southern - at Samford, Nov. 19-21 Summit League - at Denver, Nov. 18-20 Sun Belt - at Texas-Arlington, Nov. 18-20 Southwestern - at Jackson State, Nov. 18-20 Western Athl - at New Mexico State, Nov. 17-19 |
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Post by gobruins on Nov 10, 2016 5:38:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand how you are predicting Kansas to win the Big 12 conference but Texas to get the overall 3 seed in the tourney. IMO, Texas' only path to the 3 seed is to stay in a tie for the title (get the auto qualifier by virtue of the tiebreaker) or win it outright with a KU loss. Like Florida last year, if Texas with their high RPI doesn't win their conference I don't see the committee seeding them ahead of KU especially in a league with a true round robin. I meant to change Texas to the AQ. I had KU last week. Fixed that - sorry. You can see in the at-large list I had KU listed as an at-large. You have the same problem in the Pac-12. You have Washington as the AQ, and also in the at-larges. I am assuming you want Stanford as the AQ. |
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 10, 2016 12:17:52 GMT -5
Bracketology (11/09)
Rough Prediction of Top 16 seeds
(1) Nebraska (16) Penn State
(8) Kansas (9) Florida
(2) Wisconsin (15) UCLA
(7) North Carolina (10) Michigan State
(3) Texas (14) Washington
(6) Stanford (11) BYU
(4) Minnesota (13) Michigan
(5) San Diego (12) Missouri
This looks really unbalanced. It appears to favor Wisconsin and Minnesota, at the expense of Nebraska and Texas. |
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Post by n00b on Nov 10, 2016 12:30:42 GMT -5
Bracketology (11/09)
Rough Prediction of Top 16 seeds
(1) Nebraska (16) Penn State
(8) Kansas (9) Florida
(2) Wisconsin (15) UCLA
(7) North Carolina (10) Michigan State
(3) Texas (14) Washington
(6) Stanford (11) BYU
(4) Minnesota (13) Michigan
(5) San Diego (12) Missouri
This looks really unbalanced. It appears to favor Wisconsin and Minnesota, at the expense of Nebraska and Texas. Penn State's best non-conference win was West Virginia and they've lost 4 conference matches already. They will be extremely under-seeded relative to their true strength and some region will draw the short straw and have them as the bottom seeded team in the region or even as an incredibly strong seeded team. Texas's subregion isn't the easiest but I don't think it's abnormally tough. Washington is #13 in the Pablo so that's about right. Stanford is number 4 so that's a bit of a tough draw, but Stanford-Florida-Penn State are all within a hair of each other for 4th-6th in the Pablos. |
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 10, 2016 13:18:41 GMT -5
This looks really unbalanced. It appears to favor Wisconsin and Minnesota, at the expense of Nebraska and Texas. Penn State's best non-conference win was West Virginia and they've lost 4 conference matches already. They will be extremely under-seeded relative to their true strength and some region will draw the short straw and have them as the bottom seeded team in the region or even as an incredibly strong seeded team. Texas's subregion isn't the easiest but I don't think it's abnormally tough. Washington is #13 in the Pablo so that's about right. Stanford is number 4 so that's a bit of a tough draw, but Stanford-Florida-Penn State are all within a hair of each other for 4th-6th in the Pablos. I'm glad you mentioned Pablo, as it caused me to look at these projected groupings in terms of the average Pablo rank of each set of four teams. | Nebraska | 1 | | Penn State | 5 (T) | | Kansas | 14 | | Florida | 5 (T) | | Average Pablo | 6.25 |
| Texas | 7 | | Washington | 13 | | Stanford | 4 | | BYU | 8 | | Average Pablo | 8 |
| Wisconsin | 3 | | UCLA | 9 | | N. Carolina | 27 | | Michigan St. | 12 | | Pablo Average | 12.75 |
| Minnesota | 2 | | Michigan | 20 | | San Diego | 10 | | Missouri | 26 | | Average Pablo | 14.5 |
IMO this confirms my initial reaction that these projected regional pairings are unbalanced in an illogical way. |
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 10, 2016 13:40:38 GMT -5
Using average Pablo points rather than average Pablo ranking, here's another way to compare the relative strength of these groupings: | Nebraska Region | 7048.75 | | Texas Region | 6855 | | Wisconsin Region | 6752.5 | | Minnesota Region | 6745 |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 10, 2016 14:41:15 GMT -5
Not to jinx it, who get's Hawai'i? I would love to see a Wisconsin rematch or a Minnesota match. If Hawai'i can play like they did agains't LBSU or CSUN, they will beat a lot of seeded teams.
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