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Post by live2play on Jul 24, 2017 15:55:30 GMT -5
Someone just told me that this tournament is moving to San Diego Convention Center next year, Jan. 5-7. This info is not up yet on the SCVA website. Can anyone confirm this? Not sure if this is a permanent move for the tournament.
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Post by Volleyfan024 on Jul 24, 2017 16:26:50 GMT -5
Someone just told me that this tournament is moving to San Diego Convention Center next year, Jan. 5-7. This info is not up yet on the SCVA website. Can anyone confirm this? Not sure if this is a permanent move for the tournament. SCVA sent out an email with this information a couple of days ago. Wish they would have kept the tournament at the end of January
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Post by teamjess on Jul 24, 2017 16:34:56 GMT -5
This will be a fun change. The tournament at the end of January was tough because it was always at the end or just before finals week for many high schools.
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Post by lietuva on Jul 24, 2017 17:19:10 GMT -5
I am sure that will be a great drive home to Los Angeles on a sunday,afternoon
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Post by mattlovesvolley on Jul 24, 2017 18:58:02 GMT -5
Interesting to note that the NCVA Far Westerns Qualifier will be January 6-7, a direct conflict with the SCVA Invitational. This was the case in 2016, and all of the main Northern California clubs (MVVC, Bay to Bay, NCVC, and Pacific Rim) elected to stay in Northern California to get their bids and this resulted in a less competitive SCVA Invitational. However, Bay to Bay and Pac Rim decided to go to the SCVA Holiday Classic instead that season in December. It will be interesting to see what these clubs decide to do.
Also, does anyone know why the tournament was moved from Anaheim to San Diego?
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Post by mattlovesvolley on Jul 24, 2017 19:03:54 GMT -5
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Post by teamjess on Jul 24, 2017 19:49:46 GMT -5
it was originally listed that way last year too but then later changed to have a separate division for 17 and 15s - it seemed like just a week or two before so who knows.
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Post by live2play on Jul 24, 2017 20:38:47 GMT -5
Interesting to note that the NCVA Far Westerns Qualifier will be January 6-7, a direct conflict with the SCVA Invitational. This was the case in 2016, and all of the main Northern California clubs (MVVC, Bay to Bay, NCVC, and Pacific Rim) elected to stay in Northern California to get their bids and this resulted in a less competitive SCVA Invitational. However, Bay to Bay and Pac Rim decided to go to the SCVA Holiday Classic instead that season in December. It will be interesting to see what these clubs decide to do. Also, does anyone know why the tournament was moved from Anaheim to San Diego? Well, last year they had to move the date to late January because of a scheduling conflict with the annual New Year's Party at the Anaheim Convention Center. But looking at next year, New Year's eve is on Sunday and Jan. 5-7 would've worked out fine but maybe it was already booked for another event. Anyway, San Diego should be a fun change at least.
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Jul 25, 2017 19:35:07 GMT -5
Moving to San Diego would be dumb. It'd definitely be real fun and a cool change, but I would feel terrible for the guys and parents from like Manhattan and North LA. That's terrible to have it that far south.
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Post by vbinca on Jul 25, 2017 20:18:08 GMT -5
Moving to San Diego would be dumb. It'd definitely be real fun and a cool change, but I would feel terrible for the guys and parents from like Manhattan and North LA. That's terrible to have it that far south. But on the other hand, out of region teams who are flying in are going to love having an airport less than ten minutes from the Convention Center. Being from San Diego myself, this means my drive to the SCVA Invitational will take less than half the time it takes me to drive my son to his club practice.
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Post by socal3 on Jul 25, 2017 20:20:37 GMT -5
What about the Legacy crew traveling from Valencia and the Sports Academy club from Newbury Park and Santa Barbara. OC is already a long drive for many clubs and stretching the journey to SD seems over the top. Why not use LA Convention Center instead.
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Post by teamjess on Jul 25, 2017 20:31:59 GMT -5
It's a stay and play tournament so I am sure they are hoping this way more teams will stay over night rather than commute.
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Post by backinthesaddle on Jul 25, 2017 21:11:44 GMT -5
teamjess, I think you nailed it with the play and stay extortion. Unfortunately, like many for profit things, this is an opportunity for the SCVA and THS Housing to make more money on the backs of those parents who will, as always, do what needs to be done so the boys have a great experience. How many Boy's clubs are there in the San Diego area, maybe 2-3? So, what else could it be? Somebody in the know please weigh in so we are well informed. On the upside, perhaps less teams will enter so that the rediculousness of the #1 seed playing #110 can be avoided.
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Jul 25, 2017 22:11:44 GMT -5
Moving to San Diego would be dumb. It'd definitely be real fun and a cool change, but I would feel terrible for the guys and parents from like Manhattan and North LA. That's terrible to have it that far south. But on the other hand, out of region teams who are flying in are going to love having an airport less than ten minutes from the Convention Center. Being from San Diego myself, this means my drive to the SCVA Invitational will take less than half the time it takes me to drive my son to his club practice. This tournament shouldn't be about the out-of-region teams. I think that is partially why it's the same weekend as the NorCal qualifier. If SCVA cares about well-being of their members, they would want less out-of-region teams competing for the SoCal's bids. I don't really like how out-of-region teams can come in and steal SoCal bids. Imagine if SCVC, Balboa, and 949 just went to the Midwest qualifiers and accepted their bids at that tournament.. The midwest would be in an uproar. This tournament should be designed around the SCVA teams, not others. And it shouldn't be a stay-and-play tournament. It's a local region tournament centrally located for that exact reason. I agree that it seems like they are extorting the stay and play side of it for profit which is really sad. There's only a few San Diego teams, there's no debating OC is the most centrally located and ideal location for this tournament. Also, John Wayne Airport is like 15 minutes from Anaheim.
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Jul 25, 2017 22:48:23 GMT -5
This tournament is more than a regional tournament. It's a bid tournament that is meant to be competitive so that only the best teams are in the Open divisions. SCVA people should not be complaining about having to make the drive down to San Diego, because there are many teams traveling much further than SCVA residents. You shouldn't bash the idea of making the tournament less convenient for teams that fly in, because some of the teams that fly in for this tournament are the most competitive in their respective age groups. This is the SCVA regional tournament. If the midwest moved the midwest regional tournaments farther away from the midwest clubs to make the tournament more convenient for the SCVA teams that fly in, would you not be mad? If the NorCal regional bid tournament got moved farther south to make it more convenient for the SCVA teams that fly in, would you not be mad? The day the Chicago tournament negatively impacts the local clubs in order to help Balboa and SCVC have a more convenient time taking those bids. I'm sorry if it comes off as rude, but changing the SCVA tournament to help out of region teams and hurting SCVA teams is a terribly stupid idea. It's not the only bid tournament. It's the SCVA bid tournament. And if you want to talk about which teams are the most competitive in their respective age groups, arguing against the SoCal teams is not going to end well for you in any debate.
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