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Post by burbank55 on Dec 21, 2017 14:51:40 GMT -5
Seems like there’s a shift towards college golf’s scheduling where there are more tournaments/invitationals and fewer head to head dual matches. I’m guessing all non-profit sports will move towards this scheduling to minimize costs and school disruptions. Why travel to Washington State one long weekend and Oregon State the next when you can combine 6 teams in one tourney and get the same 4 matches done in only one weekend? Benefits the athletic dept and the scholar athletes, (unless more injuries occur because of the compressed competition).
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Post by Latvian on Dec 22, 2017 6:35:45 GMT -5
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Post by sandball on Dec 22, 2017 17:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by sandball on Dec 23, 2017 17:07:04 GMT -5
Holiday Photos Florida State  Photo: @fsu_BeachVB UCLA  Photo: @uclabeachvb LSU  Photo: @lsubeachvb South Carolina  Photo: @gamecockbeachvb Arizona  Photo: @arizonabvb Grand Canyon  Photo: @gcubeach TCU  Photo: @tcubeachvb Florida Atlantic  Photo: @faubeachvb Stetson  Photo: @stetsonbeachvb
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Post by sandball on Dec 26, 2017 10:20:34 GMT -5
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Post by sandball on Dec 28, 2017 0:44:37 GMT -5
Volleyballmag.com: "NCAA coaches discuss the possibility of converting college beach volleyball from a team sport to an individual sport with the goal of increasing participation" - tiny.cc/m1gppyrepost here Pros and cons to this. While it makes sense to the individual athlete (especially with the growing rosters), I agree that there might be an advantage to teams that either has a big budget and/or have close access to quality beach tournaments. Those teams will continue to improve while players on other teams won't have the same development. Athletes that want to get better will want to go to schools where the tournament access is better or pay out of their own pocket to attend matches further away. Those schools will continue to grow and attract the best talent while the have-nots don't. Even a team like Hawaii may be at a disadvantage. They have access to beaches and some tournaments, but the tournaments are not on the scale as they are in California. It's harder to draw good players to attend some of the tournaments in Hawaii (not necessarily the college ones), due to the cost a player would have to incur to fly to Hawaii. For example, the AVP Next tournaments are much more competitive in California. I know players that live on the Island and don't get the playing opportunities that their teammates from California have in the off-season. Now in-season, they may also be at a disadvantage to the teams that are a short drive from the best tournaments (players from USC and UCLA, for example, that aren't on the starting roster, might be able to find quality tournaments to participate in instead of just cheer on their teammates all season). Even UH's fall schedule is less than impressive compared to USC and some other teams. They had two intrasquad scrimmages, while USC played several tournaments. Again, the teams with the money to attend these tournaments (and close proximity to other schools) are the ones who benefit from the most from the increased Fall playing schedule. |
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Post by vballfreak808 on Dec 28, 2017 2:07:56 GMT -5
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Post by Latvian on Dec 29, 2017 3:46:13 GMT -5
Long Beach State2018 Roster announced !!!Nele Barber ............ 6-0 Sr. Berlin, Germany Sasha Karelov ......... 5-9 Sr. Raleigh, NC Hannah Matt ......... 5-10 Sr. Bettendorf, IA Rachel Nieto .......... 5-10 Sr. Walnut Creek, CA Anete Brinke ............ 6-2 Jr. Riga, Latvia Zoi Konstantopoulou .. 6-0 Jr. Limassol, Cyprus Megan Kruidhof ......... 6-0 Jr. Lakewood, CA Hailey Harward ......... 5-9 So. Phoenix, AZ NewcomersEmma Kirst ............... 6-4 Jr. Las Vegas, NV Alexis Patterson ......... 6-0 Jr. Glendale, AZ Kristyna Adamcikova .. 6-0 Fr. Opava, Czech Republic Ravena Bailey ........... 5-6 Fr. Escondido, CA Tegan Curren .......... 5-10 Fr. Paso Robles, CA Gina Lipscomb .......... 6-0 Fr. Yorba Linda, CA Claire Newlander ....... 6-0 Fr. Arroyo Grande, CA Marisa Ramsey ......... 5-7 Fr. Laguna Niguel, CA Nicci Reinking ......... 5-10 Fr. Fountain Valley, CA #7 Last Season 2018 Biggest Losses: Kobi Pekich, Heather Weiss, Morea Wagner, Jenelle Hudson It`s nice to see Anete Brinke is scheduled to play. No more injuries please! |
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Post by sandball on Dec 30, 2017 2:53:48 GMT -5
South Carolina signed "a pair of high-profile graduate transfers Cadie Bates (6-2) from Duke and Lydia Dimke (6-3) from Creighton, with both student-athletes enrolling in January to compete immediately for the 2018 spring season. (...) Bates will have two seasons of eligibility at South Carolina, Dimke will have just the upcoming 2018 season." www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-svolley/spec-rel/111017aad.htmlSouth Carolina head coach Moritz Moritz: "Cadie and Lydia have been major contributors at high-level programs, and we're excited to bring their physical skill set and incredible leadership qualities to our program. Both of these young women should bring an instant impact to our program's culture as well as our skill level on the sand." Creighton’s All-American setter Lydia Dimke is the latest indoor transfer to take on the beach game www.flovolleyball.tv/articles/6063723-lydia-dimke-is-the-latest-indoor-transfer-to-take-on-the-beach-game"The 6-foot-3 setter Lydia Dimke was named the Big East Player of the Year in 2016. (...) A 6-3 frame makes her the tallest player on the South Carolina roster. (...) Head coach Moritz Moritz has had plenty of success adding indoor transfers to his roster. (...) He doesn’t think the trend of indoor players making the transition to the beach game for their fifth and final season of eligibility will slow down anytime soon. (...) If money is a factor indoor is often a more attractive choice for top athletes and their families as they make their college choice. Only a few of top level kids who have size and skill will choose to commit to beach volleyball full-time, and, for the time being, most of them are going to the most successful programs like USC, Pepperdine, and UCLA. For South Carolina - and other similarly positioned teams - picking up indoor transfers for their grad year has been a great way to add some size to their rosters." South Carolina head coach Moritz Moritz: "We’ve kind of depended on [indoor transfers] the last couple of years. We’re starting to get bigger, nowhere near where a UCLA or a Southern Cal or even like an FIU or an LSU; they’re very tall, very athletic. We haven’t been able to counter with our high school level recruits, but have been able to counter with some of our transfers. (...) Some of these crossover players that maybe have some beach experience in the past and are athletic and are tall definitely have tools that can make an immediate impact." |
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Post by sandball on Dec 30, 2017 7:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 30, 2017 17:44:23 GMT -5
This is on my list of My Top 5 Threads on VT.
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Post by socal3 on Dec 30, 2017 20:18:39 GMT -5
The challenge with the tall 5th year beach players, from what I’ve seen, is it takes them awhile to learn the beach game. They don’t really get good until the latter part of the season and then they’re gone. This will most likely change as beach evolves and the 5th year comes in with a little beach experience. I think the best recruiting fishing ponds for NCAA beach programs (other than the top 5 programs who get the top recruits) are the smaller OHs who are really good, dynamic players that aren’t big enough to play as OH’s at top indoor schools. This type of player doesn’t take long to pick up the beach game and can give a school 4 good years of work. Instead some schools are so stuck on the six footers they are recruiting and scholarshiping 6 foot beach-only high school juniors that struggle with the fundamentals (Passung and overall BC). I think 5’9 - 5’10 dynamic player is far better than 6’1 and can’t pass.
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Post by sandball on Jan 1, 2018 3:45:33 GMT -5
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Post by Fight On! on Jan 1, 2018 21:27:49 GMT -5
The challenge with the tall 5th year beach players, from what I’ve seen, is it takes them awhile to learn the beach game. They don’t really get good until the latter part of the season and then they’re gone. This will most likely change as beach evolves and the 5th year comes in with a little beach experience. I think the best recruiting fishing ponds for NCAA beach programs (other than the top 5 programs who get the top recruits) are the smaller OHs who are really good, dynamic players that aren’t big enough to play as OH’s at top indoor schools. This type of player doesn’t take long to pick up the beach game and can give a school 4 good years of work. Instead some schools are so stuck on the six footers they are recruiting and scholarshiping 6 foot beach-only high school juniors that struggle with the fundamentals (Passung and overall BC). I think 5’9 - 5’10 dynamic player is far better than 6’1 and can’t pass. I was wondering about this for Dimke whom I saw aced off the court at local R4s tournament on Saturday. Passing men’s jump serves indoors may not be equivalent to passing women’s serves on the sand, of course. |
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Post by socal3 on Jan 2, 2018 12:36:34 GMT -5
Serve receive in the elements is challenging to the new beach comer and more height doesn’t help. I even see the tall newcomer struggle serving, even with a standing float serve... into the tape, out by 10 feet. IMO 5th year’s aren’t as valuable as one might think “unless” they bring some previous beach experience so they aren’t starting from scratch with everything.
Success indoor doesn’t necessarily translate to the beach immediately. The successful indoor player/blocker has not learned to read the set and make a decision to stay or drop. I’ve witnessed 5th year players really struggle with this decision. Then, if the decision is drop, learn to drop and dig. Very hard to drop in time to set up for the controlled dig. Not easy for the indoor player who has only been responsible for a tiny portion of the court related to offblocker defense. The new comer-5th year’s I’ve seen can and do learn these necessary skills, but again, it takes the better part of the season so their contribution is limited.
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