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Post by ay2013 on Oct 31, 2017 17:57:16 GMT -5
As of now I'm predicting seeds of
1 Penn State 8 Washington 9 Oregon 16 Creighton
2 Stanford 7 Texas 10 Michigan State 15 Iowa State
3 Kentucky 6 Florida 11 Wisconsin 14 USC
4 Minnesota 5 Nebraska 12 Kansas 13 Utah
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 31, 2017 18:08:32 GMT -5
I really think that if the committee truly values good non-conference scheduling AND wins, a team like Oregon is going to be well positioned with 3 wins against RPI top 25 non-conference.....
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 31, 2017 21:54:54 GMT -5
As of now I'm predicting seeds of 1 Penn State 8 Washington 9 Oregon 16 Creighton 2 Stanford 7 Texas 10 Michigan State 15 Iowa State 3 Kentucky 6 Florida 11 Wisconsin 14 USC 4 Minnesota 5 Nebraska 12 Kansas 13 Utah This looks about right to me - with Colorado/UCLA knocking on the door (with plenty of opportunity coming up). And opportunity for some in the top 16 to falter out of a seed. I personally have Nebraska ahead of Minnesota. It will be very fascinating to see where these two teams come out tomorrow. If Nebraska isn't ahead of Minnesota now, I am not sure how easy it will be for them to pass Minnesota later. They are not likely to pass them in RPI and there so few quality wins left on their schedule for change later.
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Post by FreeBall on Oct 31, 2017 22:22:58 GMT -5
If we go with trojansc's 64 and assume for now the top 16 in RPI are the seeds. Here are the drive-ins for the remaining 48. I did a quick tally of the number of teams within 400 miles of each potential host site in this scenario. Here are the numbers: Host Site | # of Teams w/in 400 Miles | Kentucky | 13 | Penn State | 8 | Michigan St. | 6 | Florida | 5 | Kansas | 5 | Wisconsin | 5 | Creighton | 4 | Iowa St. | 4 | Nebraska | 4 | USC | 3 | Minnesota | 2 | Stanford | 2 | Texas | 1 | Utah | 1 | Oregon | 0 | Washington | 0 |
There is a heavy overlap of teams able to drive to multiple sites in the central part of the country. Therefore, it looks like no more than four sites (Kentucky, Penn State, Florida & Michigan State) are likely to be filled entirely with drive-in teams. This seems to reinforce the suspicion that a higher than average numbers of teams will be traveling 400+ miles within this year's bracket.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 31, 2017 22:25:58 GMT -5
I really think that if the committee truly values good non-conference scheduling AND wins, a team like Oregon is going to be well positioned with 3 wins against RPI top 25 non-conference..... I'd bet on Oregon being 8 or 9 in Wednesday's ranking.. higher than most people think.
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Post by usvballfan on Oct 31, 2017 22:59:06 GMT -5
IMO, it's a little early to predict based on the match-up game that are yet to be played. Plus Pablo has Penn State #1, Nebraska #2, Stanford #3, Minnesota #4 and Texas #5. Kentucky is #10, Florida #7.
For Big 10, Penn state has to play Minnesota yet. So depending on the outcome of that game, one team may fall out. AND I don't think the NCAA will award 3 seed to the same conference anyway.
For SEC, it depends on the game tomorrow night, but one team will be lowered and definitely not host.
Stanford seems like a Top 4 lock. And I predict Texas to get the nod.
1 Penn State 8 Washington 9 Wisconsin 16 Kansas
2 Nebraska 7 Kentucky 10 BYU 15 Oregon
3 Stanford 6 Florida 11 Michigan State 14 USC
4 Texas 5 Minnesota 12 San Diego 13 Utah
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Post by usvballfan on Oct 31, 2017 23:56:05 GMT -5
The only problem is Pablo has Florida at #7 and Kentucky #10, Texas #5.
For the Big 10, Penn St. #1, Nebraska #2 and Minnesota #4. The NCAA will not give 3 host to the Big 10. Plus, Penn State and Minnesota have not yet played each other yet, so I'm thinking one will fall out anyway (depending on who wins that game).
For SEC, game tomorrow night will determine the top dog if the SEC gets a nod.
The Wildcard may be
1 Penn State 8 Washington 9 Oregon 16 Creighton
2 Stanford 7 Texas 10 Michigan State 15 Iowa State
3 Kentucky 6 Florida 11 Wisconsin 14 USC
4 Minnesota 5 Nebraska 12 Kansas 13 Utah
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 1, 2017 0:39:21 GMT -5
IMO, it's a little early to predict based on the match-up game that are yet to be played. Plus Pablo has Penn State #1, Nebraska #2, Stanford #3, Minnesota #4 and Texas #5. Kentucky is #10, Florida #7. For Big 10, Penn state has to play Minnesota yet. So depending on the outcome of that game, one team may fall out. AND I don't think the NCAA will award 3 seed to the same conference anyway. For SEC, it depends on the game tomorrow night, but one team will be lowered and definitely not host. Stanford seems like a Top 4 lock. And I predict Texas to get the nod. 1 Penn State 8 Washington 9 Wisconsin 16 Kansas 2 Nebraska 7 Kentucky 10 BYU 15 Oregon 3 Stanford 6 Florida 11 Michigan State 14 USC 4 Texas 5 Minnesota 12 San Diego 13 Utah 1- What does Pablo have to do with anything? 2- What is this nonsense about the NCAA not giving 1 conference 3 regional seeds? I'm pretty sure that just happened last year 3- I'd like to hear your justification for Texas seeded higher than Minnesota
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Post by norskie56 on Nov 1, 2017 1:21:41 GMT -5
Yes there were three seeds from the Big Ten last year and right now it is 1. Penn State, 2. Minnesota. 3. Kentucky, and 4. Nebraska in the RPI. I am not sure why people are so intent on using Pablo for their predictions when RPI is what the committee uses along with SOS, last 10 matches, and H2H. Texas is number 6 in the RPI and lost at home to Minnesota so no way is Texas seeded higher than Minnesota as long as Minnesota wins the rest of their matches except for their last one. They could drop the Penn State and still be hosting in the regional, however, if they run the table I see them getting a regional for sure. It will be interesting seeing what the 1-10 predicted seeds are tomorrow.
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Post by gobruins on Nov 1, 2017 3:04:24 GMT -5
What is the deal with Texas A&M? They are 7-11, with 7 matches left to play. They would need to go 6-1 to get over .500, with one of their remaining matches against Florida (almost certain loss). So, why did Texas A&M only schedule 25 matches? Aren't they allowed 28 (or is it 29)? Could they add another match to their schedule to help them get to .500? It was a little weather event they refer to as a hurricane in the area. You may have seen some news about it. They cancelled 5-6 matches during those two weekends. Can you give me dates and opponents of the 5-6 matches Texas A&M canceled due to the "little weather event" I may "have seen some news about"? Weekend of Aug. 25-26 they played Sam Houston State and VCU at home. Weekend of Sept. 2-3 they played Penn State and Stanford at home. Weekend of Sept. 9-10 they played Lipscomb and Wisconsin at Wisconsin. On Wednesday, Sept. 13 they played Texas at home. They had no matches the weekend of Sept. 16-17, but in reading the game summary of the Texas match, there is no mention of matches scheduled that weekend. The release talks about their next match opening SEC play on Sept. 22 at LSU. For those that asked, you can add matches to your schedule late in the season provided you don't exceed the maximum number of matches (or play dates). Arizona did it a few years ago. It is actually pretty common in Baseball and Softball to add matches late in the season to make up for rain-outs earlier in the season.
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Post by Cruz'n on Nov 1, 2017 4:03:11 GMT -5
What is the deal with Texas A&M? They are 7-11, with 7 matches left to play. They would need to go 6-1 to get over .500, with one of their remaining matches against Florida (almost certain loss). So, why did Texas A&M only schedule 25 matches? Aren't they allowed 28 (or is it 29)? Could they add another match to their schedule to help them get to .500? It was a little weather event they refer to as a hurricane in the area. You may have seen some news about it. They cancelled 5-6 matches during those two weekends. I don't think A&M cancelled any matches. Texas State canceled one match with A&M, but two other matches were played at A&M that day. (8/25 or 8/26, can't remember)
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 1, 2017 6:22:47 GMT -5
It was a little weather event they refer to as a hurricane in the area. You may have seen some news about it. They cancelled 5-6 matches during those two weekends. Can you give me dates and opponents of the 5-6 matches Texas A&M canceled due to the "little weather event" I may "have seen some news about"? Weekend of Aug. 25-26 they played Sam Houston State and VCU at home. Weekend of Sept. 2-3 they played Penn State and Stanford at home. Weekend of Sept. 9-10 they played Lipscomb and Wisconsin at Wisconsin. On Wednesday, Sept. 13 they played Texas at home. They had no matches the weekend of Sept. 16-17, but in reading the game summary of the Texas match, there is no mention of matches scheduled that weekend. The release talks about their next match opening SEC play on Sept. 22 at LSU. For those that asked, you can add matches to your schedule late in the season provided you don't exceed the maximum number of matches (or play dates). Arizona did it a few years ago. It is actually pretty common in Baseball and Softball to add matches late in the season to make up for rain-outs earlier in the season. Wow. Correct, they only had one cancelled because of the storm. Their were many matches cancelled because of the storms and I assumed with that blank weekend that they had. Very bizarre that she would only schedule 26 matches. My guess is that no additional matches will be scheduled. Very bizarre.
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Post by jasonr on Nov 1, 2017 8:31:13 GMT -5
I am not sure why people are so intent on using Pablo for their predictions when RPI is what the committee uses along with SOS, last 10 matches, and H2H. Under that criteria, I don't see how Nebraska won't get a top 4 seed. They are #4 in RPI (could drop due to remaining schedule), but total wins against RPI top 25, H2H sweeps against PSU and Minn, a likely tie or outright win for the Big Ten conference title, and the money for the NCAA having them host at Devaney. Theyll probably end up as Pablo #1 as well if the committee cares about that at all. I think Nebraska and Stanford are near locks for a top 4 seed. PSU will get one if they can win 2 of 3 against MSU, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. If they go 1 for 3 it'll be interesting and if they go 0 for 3 they're obviously out. Minnesota will get one if they win out. Kentucky will get one if they beat Florida and take care of the rest of their schedule. Texas will be ready to jump in depending on how the dominoes fall for PSU, Minnesota, and Kentucky. The interesting scenario is if PSU wins their remaining matches except for Minnesota and Minnesota runs the table. Then Kentucky, Nebraska, and Stanford all win out. Maybe that drops Nebraska to #5? Not sure.
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Post by dfw on Nov 1, 2017 8:47:20 GMT -5
2017 Bracketology (10/31 Halloween update)Big East - Creighton still fighting to be seeded, Marquette still trying to stay comfortably in the tournament. For now, both of those should happen. Marquette still has decent breathing room. Villanova and Butler have crept into at-large territory, but I don't see it happening. Butler certainly has the better chance. But with the 4-team Big East format, we've seen someone sneak in and *steal a bid*. (See: Seton Hall 2014). Speaking of which, Seton Hall is looking to steal the 4th spot in the Big East tournament. Villanova might be the team on the outside looking in. Marquette and Creighton will be there, and I think Butler will as well. The last spot comes down to Villanova and Seton Hall.. Really looking forward to the Creighton/Marquette match this weekend. Marquette has been clutch in some big matches this year. Creighton/Marquette this weekend likely decides Big East #1 for BE tourney. Seton Hall/Villanova this weekend could also decide Big East #4, last team in, for Big East tourney.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 9:07:40 GMT -5
1. Penn State 16. Creighton 9. Michigan State 8. Washington
5. Texas 12. Utah 13. Kansas 4. Kentucky
3. Nebraska 14. Colorado 11. Oregon 6. Florida
7. Stanford 10. Wisconsin 15. San Diego 2. Minnesota
No USC, Iowa State.
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