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Post by trojansc on Nov 1, 2017 11:55:23 GMT -5
1. Penn State 16. Creighton 9. Michigan State 8. Washington 5. Texas 12. Utah 13. Kansas 4. Kentucky 3. Nebraska 14. Colorado 11. Oregon 6. Florida 7. Stanford 10. Wisconsin 15. San Diego 2. Minnesota No USC, Iowa State. No way USD gets seeded over USC/UCLA. San Diego has just one top 25 win, and 3 other top 50 wins. Missouri and Hawaii might not even be top 50 at season end....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 12:05:20 GMT -5
1. Penn State 16. Creighton 9. Michigan State 8. Washington 5. Texas 12. Utah 13. Kansas 4. Kentucky 3. Nebraska 14. Colorado 11. Oregon 6. Florida 7. Stanford 10. Wisconsin 15. San Diego 2. Minnesota No USC, Iowa State. No way USD gets seeded over USC/UCLA. San Diego has just one top 25 win, and 3 other top 50 wins. Missouri and Hawaii might not even be top 50 at season end.... I see USC with five more possible losses and UCLA with four. If Lanier is out for good, the committee will take that into consideration. An RPI of 19 for USD right now doesn't put them out of the realm of possibility, and I think they're getting better, besting BYU this past weekend.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 1, 2017 12:11:55 GMT -5
No way USD gets seeded over USC/UCLA. San Diego has just one top 25 win, and 3 other top 50 wins. Missouri and Hawaii might not even be top 50 at season end.... I see USC with five more possible losses and UCLA with four. If Lanier is out for good, the committee will take that into consideration. An RPI of 19 for USD right now doesn't put them out of the realm of possibility, and I think they're getting better, besting BYU this past weekend. Their RPI can't really go up unfortunately. Their remaining opponents have a record of 74-91, which is going to continue to destroy their now-solid SOS. At 17-4, they have very little upside in their own winning percentage and perhaps most importantly, no chance for bonus points. They are most likely at, or very close, to their RPI cap. And there's no way a team outside the RPI Top 16 with only 1 Top 25 win (and none against seeds) gets a subregional.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 1, 2017 12:34:06 GMT -5
1. Penn State 16. Creighton 9. Michigan State 8. Washington 5. Texas 12. Utah 13. Kansas 4. Kentucky 3. Nebraska 14. Colorado 11. Oregon 6. Florida 7. Stanford 10. Wisconsin 15. San Diego 2. Minnesota No USC, Iowa State. No way USD gets seeded over USC/UCLA. San Diego has just one top 25 win, and 3 other top 50 wins. Missouri and Hawaii might not even be top 50 at season end.... USD’s nitty gritty leaves a lot to be desired
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 1, 2017 12:35:44 GMT -5
I am not sure why people are so intent on using Pablo for their predictions when RPI is what the committee uses along with SOS, last 10 matches, and H2H. Under that criteria, I don't see how Nebraska won't get a top 4 seed. They are #4 in RPI (could drop due to remaining schedule), but total wins against RPI top 25, H2H sweeps against PSU and Minn, a likely tie or outright win for the Big Ten conference title, and the money for the NCAA having them host at Devaney. Theyll probably end up as Pablo #1 as well if the committee cares about that at all. I think Nebraska and Stanford are near locks for a top 4 seed. PSU will get one if they can win 2 of 3 against MSU, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. If they go 1 for 3 it'll be interesting and if they go 0 for 3 they're obviously out. Minnesota will get one if they win out. Kentucky will get one if they beat Florida and take care of the rest of their schedule. Texas will be ready to jump in depending on how the dominoes fall for PSU, Minnesota, and Kentucky. The interesting scenario is if PSU wins their remaining matches except for Minnesota and Minnesota runs the table. Then Kentucky, Nebraska, and Stanford all win out. Maybe that drops Nebraska to #5? Not sure. Why Nebraska may not be a regional host.
1) There are 5 or 6 other teams that have/could have an excellent claim to be a top 4 seed. 2) Even if they win the rest of their matches - they are likely to be outside the top 4 in RPI - with an average finish ~ 5. 3) They are likely to have more losses/worse w/l% among the contenders without having what will be considered a tougher schedule. 4) They will likely have the worst loss of any of the contenders. 5) There is still about a 70% chance they lose one more match, which would complicate things for them.
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Post by indianscoach on Nov 1, 2017 12:48:14 GMT -5
2017 Bracketology (10/31 Halloween update)Big East - Creighton still fighting to be seeded, Marquette still trying to stay comfortably in the tournament. For now, both of those should happen. Marquette still has decent breathing room. Villanova and Butler have crept into at-large territory, but I don't see it happening. Butler certainly has the better chance. But with the 4-team Big East format, we've seen someone sneak in and *steal a bid*. (See: Seton Hall 2014). Speaking of which, Seton Hall is looking to steal the 4th spot in the Big East tournament. Villanova might be the team on the outside looking in. Marquette and Creighton will be there, and I think Butler will as well. The last spot comes down to Villanova and Seton Hall.. Really looking forward to the Creighton/Marquette match this weekend. Marquette has been clutch in some big matches this year. Creighton/Marquette this weekend likely decides Big East #1 for BE tourney. Seton Hall/Villanova this weekend could also decide Big East #4, last team in, for Big East tourney. So do you have Butler holding at #3 in that scenario?
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Post by usvballfan on Nov 1, 2017 12:53:33 GMT -5
That's right. there were 3 big 10 hosts last year. I forgot about Wisconsin. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Post by southie on Nov 1, 2017 13:10:56 GMT -5
Last season, all 4 regional hosts resided in the Central time zone. For this coming season, it appears as if two (PSU, UF or UK) could very well be in the Eastern time zone.
If Stanford wins out, I believe they will host a regional as the PAC is the second strongest RPI conference, I believe. I'm sure ESPN would love having a regional out West.
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Post by italianmattd on Nov 1, 2017 14:15:03 GMT -5
So, what are the odds that the three teams sent to State College for round 1/2 are AMERICAN YALE KENNESAW ST. Asking for a friend. The question is, does RR go immediately to the front of the line when he enters The Creamery? I'd say, looking at the picture, the answer is yes. Well, I don't know about going immediately to the front of the line but I think he's pointing at the sign of all the flavors he orders at one sitting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 21:05:31 GMT -5
1. Penn State 16. Creighton 9. Michigan State 8. Washington 5. Texas 12. Utah 13. Kansas 4. Kentucky 3. Nebraska 14. Colorado 11. Oregon 6. Florida 7. Stanford 10. Wisconsin 15. San Diego 2. Minnesota No USC, Iowa State. trojansc: I got 4 seeds correct, predicted the top three would be B1G teams, and 9/10 teams right overall (only missing Oregon). Do I still suck
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Post by trojansc on Nov 1, 2017 21:15:22 GMT -5
1. Penn State 16. Creighton 9. Michigan State 8. Washington 5. Texas 12. Utah 13. Kansas 4. Kentucky 3. Nebraska 14. Colorado 11. Oregon 6. Florida 7. Stanford 10. Wisconsin 15. San Diego 2. Minnesota No USC, Iowa State. trojansc : I got 4 seeds correct, predicted the top three would be B1G teams, and 9/10 teams right overall (only missing Oregon). Do I still suck Here was my post in its entirety, word for word: "No way USD gets seeded over USC/UCLA. San Diego has just one top 25 win, and 3 other top 50 wins. Missouri and Hawaii might not even be top 50 at season end...." I had no other issues with your seedings because they are all plausible results. San Diego being seeded is not a plausible result to me. The rest I wouldn't change much. I have your 15 seeds + (USC/UCLA). Don't be messy for no reason now
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 21:20:55 GMT -5
trojansc : I got 4 seeds correct, predicted the top three would be B1G teams, and 9/10 teams right overall (only missing Oregon). Do I still suck Here was my post in its entirety, word for word: "No way USD gets seeded over USC/UCLA. San Diego has just one top 25 win, and 3 other top 50 wins. Missouri and Hawaii might not even be top 50 at season end...." I had no other issues with your seedings because they are all plausible results. San Diego being seeded is not a plausible result to me. The rest I wouldn't change much. I have your 15 seeds + (USC/UCLA). Don't be messy for no reason now I just wanna be loved
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Post by Fight On! on Nov 1, 2017 23:48:39 GMT -5
Updates to bracket predictions based on today’s top 10?
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 2, 2017 0:10:43 GMT -5
1. Penn State 16. Creighton 9. Michigan State 8. Washington 5. Texas 12. Utah 13. Kansas 4. Kentucky 3. Nebraska 14. Colorado 11. Oregon 6. Florida 7. Stanford 10. Wisconsin 15. San Diego 2. Minnesota No USC, Iowa State. trojansc: I got 4 seeds correct, predicted the top three would be B1G teams, and 9/10 teams right overall (only missing Oregon). Do I still suck well, you weren't all that clear on whether you are predicting season end (seems like it) or what the early top 10 would look like, those are two different questions. The former presupposes what the committee will do with past results AND make predictions about future results, the latter only relies on past results. I also don't think it's all that remarkable to have "predicted" 9 out of 10, considering 8 of them were a damn near given. Also, most people had at least two Big 10 teams in the top 3. I had those 3 big 10 teams in the top 3 in my initial guess and that was prior to last weekends matches.
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Post by azsker on Nov 2, 2017 0:13:36 GMT -5
Updates to bracket predictions based on today’s top 10? 1. Penn State 16. USC 8. Washington 9. Oregon 4. Stanford 13. Iowa State 5. Kentucky 12. Kansas 3. Minnesota 14. Utah 6. Florida 11. Michigan State 2. Nebraska 15. Creighton 7. Texas 10. Wisconsin By this, Penn State wouldn't have a bad draw. Stanford either, IMO. That Lincoln regional would be slammed, and the Cornhusker state would be in quite a frenzy with a Creighton/Nebraska game and then and Elite 8 game with Wiscy or Texas. Yikes...Minnesota will have a battle to get through their regional as well. I still think Washington has time to rise...probably right in to the Lincoln regional. Nebraska at #3 before it's over and Washington at #6 Texas to #8 sounds good to me. Send em' to State College...I think Creighton is pretty much set on ending up in Lincoln one way or another. A loss to Marquette would probably drop them out of hosting, but still place them in Lincoln sub-regional. I think Wisconsin will increase as well...maybe #7?
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