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Post by trojansc on Oct 30, 2017 10:49:48 GMT -5
Good update coming tonight (late west coast time) - some things much clearer, some more messy!
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 30, 2017 11:40:06 GMT -5
Really soft bubble.
If season ended today, last four in: Auburn, Northern Iowa, Mizzou, Iowa
First Four Out: Arkansas, Hawaii, Alabama, North Carolina
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 30, 2017 13:51:47 GMT -5
Assuming we have a Southern California host, and that team likely being USC at this point in time, are we really going to see a Cal Poly/San Diego 1st round match? These are Pablo #10 and #14, respectively....crazy. For the sake of west coast teams having a shot in the tournament, it's arguably best for there to NOT be a Southern California host and fly all of those damn teams out.
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Post by southie on Oct 30, 2017 13:54:36 GMT -5
Assuming we have a Southern California host, and that team likely being USC at this point in time, are we really going to see a Cal Poly/San Diego 1st round match? These are Pablo #10 and #14, respectively....crazy. For the sake of west coast teams having a shot in the tournament, it's arguably best for there to NOT be a Southern California host and fly all of those damn teams out. Yes. NCAA wants to save money.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 30, 2017 14:02:17 GMT -5
Assuming we have a Southern California host, and that team likely being USC at this point in time, are we really going to see a Cal Poly/San Diego 1st round match? These are Pablo #10 and #14, respectively....crazy. For the sake of west coast teams having a shot in the tournament, it's arguably best for there to NOT be a Southern California host and fly all of those damn teams out. Cal Poly would probably end up in Palo Alto.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 30, 2017 14:25:39 GMT -5
Assuming we have a Southern California host, and that team likely being USC at this point in time, are we really going to see a Cal Poly/San Diego 1st round match? These are Pablo #10 and #14, respectively....crazy. For the sake of west coast teams having a shot in the tournament, it's arguably best for there to NOT be a Southern California host and fly all of those damn teams out. Cal Poly would probably end up in Palo Alto. But they also might try to protect Stanford if they are a regional host.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 30, 2017 14:54:22 GMT -5
Assuming we have a Southern California host, and that team likely being USC at this point in time, are we really going to see a Cal Poly/San Diego 1st round match? These are Pablo #10 and #14, respectively....crazy. For the sake of west coast teams having a shot in the tournament, it's arguably best for there to NOT be a Southern California host and fly all of those damn teams out. Cal Poly would probably end up in Palo Alto. given that Cal Poly, USC/UCLA, & San Diego are all in that 16-22 region - based on the past those 3 would get paired Cal Poly could also end up in Palo Alto, since no seeding after 16 - my guess is if Hawaii somehow makes it, they would be the ones to go to Palo Alto
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 30, 2017 15:11:16 GMT -5
I think it's entirely likely the committee acts deliberately and tries to arrange as "easy per RPI" a sub regional for the top 4 seeds as possible. I'd be willing to bet that we'd see a team in the upper 20's/lower 30's that HAVE to fly somewhere, like Michigan, Colorado State, or Auburn, to fill out the brackets of the top 4 seeds before we see purposeful placing of seed worthy teams in the top 4 sub regionals when they COULD go elsewhere.
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Post by lo4um on Oct 30, 2017 15:30:40 GMT -5
Any of you know if Michigan made the tourney where they might be headed?
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Post by FreeBall on Oct 30, 2017 15:35:54 GMT -5
Any of you know if Michigan made the tourney where they might be headed? Kentucky is the only projected non-Big 10 seed within 400 miles of Ann Arbor. If they didn't end up there, they would be a candidate to fly to almost any of the other non-Big 10 hosts.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 30, 2017 15:36:01 GMT -5
Any of you know if Michigan made the tourney where they might be headed? 1a- Stanford 1b- Washington 2- Oregon I'd actually be pretty shocked if, assuming there is only 1 sub regional in Southern California, Michigan does NOT end up at one of these Pac-12 schools. Actually, as much as I could see a Cal Poly/San Diego 1st round match @ USC, I think we could also see a Cal Poly/Michigan 1st round match @ Stanford.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 30, 2017 15:47:38 GMT -5
Any of you know if Michigan made the tourney where they might be headed? Kentucky is the only projected non-Big 10 seed within 400 miles of Ann Arbor. If they didn't end up there, they would be a candidate to fly to almost any of the other non-Big 10 hosts. I think you can feasibly cross off a number of non-big 10 hosts actually. Florida can fill its sub-regional with drive ins, Iowa State, Creighton, Kansas have drive in Big 10 team possibilities, a Southern California host can fill their sub regional with west coast teams, Kentucky is a *possibility* but I'm guess Purdue lands there (or Ohio State should they be eligible). Texas has likely just one spot available as UTRGV and Sam Houston State can go there and my guess is that it's a landing spot for a Pac-12 or ACC fly in, my money being on UCLA or Colorado.
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Post by FreeBall on Oct 30, 2017 16:11:16 GMT -5
Kentucky is the only projected non-Big 10 seed within 400 miles of Ann Arbor. If they didn't end up there, they would be a candidate to fly to almost any of the other non-Big 10 hosts. I think you can feasibly cross off a number of non-big 10 hosts actually. Florida can fill its sub-regional with drive ins, Iowa State, Creighton, Kansas have drive in Big 10 team possibilities, a Southern California host can fill their sub regional with west coast teams, Kentucky is a *possibility* but I'm guess Purdue lands there (or Ohio State should they be eligible). Texas has likely just one spot available as UTRGV and Sam Houston State can go there and my guess is that it's a landing spot for a Pac-12 or ACC fly in, my money being on UCLA or Colorado. Agreed with respect to Florida. Illinois, Purdue, Michigan and Ohio State are all within 400 miles of Kentucky. Of these four teams, Illinois is the only one within 400 miles of another projected host, so you can almost count on them getting sent to Iowa State. That means one of Purdue, Michigan or Ohio State is a lock to go to Kentucky. The other two could end up at any of the other non-Big 10 host sites (with the exception of Florida). Iowa (if they make the tournament field) is almost certain to end up at either Creighton or Kansas. They could also go to Iowa State, but Illinois being a likely team there probably eliminates that possibility. Maryland (if they make the tournament field) would not be within 400 miles of any non-Big 10 host. That means they could end up at any of the other host sites (with the exception of Florida).
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Post by FreeBall on Oct 30, 2017 16:34:57 GMT -5
Kentucky is the only projected non-Big 10 seed within 400 miles of Ann Arbor. If they didn't end up there, they would be a candidate to fly to almost any of the other non-Big 10 hosts. . . . a Southern California host can fill their sub regional with west coast teams. . . Other than Cal Poly and San Diego, what non-PAC-12 teams from the west coast do you see filling out a sub-regional field at either USC or UCLA? The only possibilities I see are Bakersfield if they win the WAC bid and Sacramento State if they win the Big Sky bid. There won't be nearly enough west coast teams to fill probable sub-regional fields at USC/UCLA, Stanford, Oregon and Washington, so quite a few fly-in teams will be needed for those locations.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 30, 2017 16:40:19 GMT -5
I think you can feasibly cross off a number of non-big 10 hosts actually. Florida can fill its sub-regional with drive ins, Iowa State, Creighton, Kansas have drive in Big 10 team possibilities, a Southern California host can fill their sub regional with west coast teams, Kentucky is a *possibility* but I'm guess Purdue lands there (or Ohio State should they be eligible). Texas has likely just one spot available as UTRGV and Sam Houston State can go there and my guess is that it's a landing spot for a Pac-12 or ACC fly in, my money being on UCLA or Colorado. Agreed with respect to Florida. Illinois, Purdue, Michigan and Ohio State are all within 400 miles of Kentucky. Of these four teams, Illinois is the only one within 400 miles of another projected host, so you can almost count on them getting sent to Iowa State. That means one of Purdue, Michigan or Ohio State is a lock to go to Kentucky. The other two could end up at any of the other non-Big 10 host sites (with the exception of Florida). Iowa (if they make the tournament field) is almost certain to end up at either Creighton or Kansas. They could also go to Iowa State, but Illinois being a likely team there probably eliminates that possibility. Maryland (if they make the tournament field) would not be within 400 miles of any non-Big 10 host. That means they could end up at any of the other host sites (with the exception of Florida). I think there is more to it than this. Do you think it's by coincidence that in the last 10 years, when Michigan has made the tournament, they only time they HAVEN'T been sent out west as a fly in is when they hosted a sub regional, were the only non-seeded Big 10 team in the bracket or in the year when they had more than 1 drive-in site available when both Kentucky and Louisville hosted. I don't think it's coincidental.
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