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Post by brybast on Nov 27, 2017 2:44:36 GMT -5
I'm beyond fuming. High Point?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Having a hard time seeing why are you so upset about High Point. You had them as the First Four Out. Committee had them Last Four In. So, only slightly higher than you had them. Not sure that is cause for OUTRAGE! Overall, you were amazingly close to what the actual selection were. You missed two of the seeds, but those 2 missed, you had as Last Four In, and the 2 who were chosen were in your First Four Out. Combined, the Last 4 In and First 4 Out, the 8 teams were exactly the same as the 8 teams the committee had. You only missed on 2 seeds, and they were your #15 and #16 seeds. Great job! I'm glad you've said this, but when someone puts as much thought and effort into an analysis as Trojansc has, and has had the kind of success in predicting the field as he has, seeing his 3rd team out get in over seeminly more deserving teams feels pretty jarring. I think it has more to do with how unprecedented it is for a team with zero top-50 wins to get an at-large bid. This is breaking new ground in bracketology. |
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Post by Cruz'n on Nov 27, 2017 3:03:53 GMT -5
trojanscThanks again for all the hard work you put in. And as gobruins pointed out, you did a great job! Switch around a couple from you first-four out, and your last-four in, and you nailed it!
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Post by vbkid111 on Nov 27, 2017 10:31:45 GMT -5
Having a hard time seeing why are you so upset about High Point. You had them as the First Four Out. Committee had them Last Four In. So, only slightly higher than you had them. Not sure that is cause for OUTRAGE! Overall, you were amazingly close to what the actual selection were. You missed two of the seeds, but those 2 missed, you had as Last Four In, and the 2 who were chosen were in your First Four Out. Combined, the Last 4 In and First 4 Out, the 8 teams were exactly the same as the 8 teams the committee had. You only missed on 2 seeds, and they were your #15 and #16 seeds. Great job! I'm glad you've said this, but when someone puts as much thought and effort into an analysis as Trojansc has, and has had the kind of success in predicting the field as he has, seeing his 3rd team out get in over seeminly more deserving teams feels pretty jarring. I think it has more to do with how unprecedented it is for a team with zero top-50 wins to get an at-large bid. This is breaking new ground in bracketology. ZERO! top-50 wins! ZERO! Oh, and LSU with one (and that would be High Point). And the fact that their ONE T-50 win is HP makes it all look so suspicious. |
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Post by Steve vb on Nov 27, 2017 10:42:11 GMT -5
It seems to me that Trojansc, through his preparation and passion for the game, had a better bracket than the committee. Edit to add: That said, I do agree with the committee's decision to seed BYU and either Wichita State/Cal Poly.
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Post by dman on Nov 27, 2017 10:48:31 GMT -5
It seems to me that Trojansc, through his preparation and passion for the game, put in more thought into the selections than the committee did. Trojan missed on what...two teams?? Both even he admitted to being on the bubble. Really not that different from NCAA. |
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Post by BuckysHeat on Nov 27, 2017 10:54:53 GMT -5
If you watched Maryland vs Toledo and High Point vs Georgia, you'd pick High Point. If you watched Maryland vs USC and High Point vs UNCG, then you take Maryland. Add in the fact that who knows if all of those Big South matches are even available to watch. I would actually watch Toledo because I know people on that team  |
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Post by Steve vb on Nov 27, 2017 10:55:35 GMT -5
It seems to me that Trojansc, through his preparation and passion for the game, put in more thought into the selections than the committee did. Trojan missed on what...two teams?? Both even he admitted to being on the bubble. Really not that different from NCAA. I think that the big differences, where Trojan excelled, were in the seedings and where to send the teams. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 27, 2017 11:27:45 GMT -5
It seems to me that Trojansc, through his preparation and passion for the game, put in more thought into the selections than the committee did. Trojan missed on what...two teams?? Both even he admitted to being on the bubble. Really not that different from NCAA. LSU getting in made sense with committee decisions in past years, but High Point did not. The message the NCAA is sending, that High Point did more than North Texas for example to get in the NCAA's, is a joke. This committee did a really good job of spreading teams out to avoid early conference rematches in the Regionals, something they've never done before. Dman, you gonna make the trip out here to LA? Lol |
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Post by dman on Nov 27, 2017 11:34:29 GMT -5
Trojan missed on what...two teams?? Both even he admitted to being on the bubble. Really not that different from NCAA. LSU getting in made sense with committee decisions in past years, but High Point did not. The message the NCAA is sending, that High Point did more than North Texas for example to get in the NCAA's, is a joke. This committee did a really good job of spreading teams out to avoid early conference rematches in the Regionals, something they've never done before. Dman, you gonna make the trip out here to LA? Lol Had to make my plans to Minnesota next weekend first, Trojan!  Actually, scrambling for flight stuff now to see if I can get there. I definitely can see the High Point controversy...I was just pleased to see their name first as I knew then that LSU would be called eventually. |
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Post by brybast on Nov 27, 2017 11:59:01 GMT -5
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Post by volleyg on Nov 27, 2017 12:16:50 GMT -5
Great job Trojanssc! The detailed information you provided from the seedlings, first in and first out, as well as bubble teams, selections were on point and extremely helpful. Thanks for help calming my stress. Awesome job! Thank you.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 27, 2017 12:26:06 GMT -5
Great job Trojanssc! The detailed information you provided from the seedlings, first in and first out, as well as bubble teams, selections were on point and extremely helpful. Thanks for help calming my stress. Awesome job! Thank you. Who's your team? Just curious, hehe. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 27, 2017 12:28:47 GMT -5
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 27, 2017 13:13:23 GMT -5
Top 25 Wins:
9: Penn State, Stanford, Nebraska, Washington
8: Texas
7: USC
6: Utah
5: Minnesota, UCLA, Oregon
4: Kentucky, Baylor, Kansas, Colorado, Purdue
3: Florida, Creighton, Iowa St, Michigan St, Michigan, Oregon St, Washington St, UNI
2: BYU, Wisconsin, Illinois
If seeding based on rewarding quality wins (forget about avoiding conference match-ups):
1 Penn State v 16 Florida
8 Minnesota v 9 UCLA
2 Stanford v 15 Purdue
7 Utah v 10 Oregon
3 Nebraska v 14 Colorado
6 USC v 11 Kentucky
4 Washington v 13 Kansas
5 Texas v 12 Baylor
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 27, 2017 13:30:55 GMT -5
Top 25 Wins: 9: Penn State, Stanford, Nebraska, Washington 8: Texas 7: USC 6: Utah 5: Minnesota, UCLA, Oregon 4: Kentucky, Baylor, Kansas, Colorado, Purdue 3: Florida, Creighton, Iowa St, Michigan St, Michigan, Oregon St, Washington St, UNI 2: BYU, Wisconsin, Illinois If seeding based on rewarding quality wins (forget about avoiding conference match-ups): 1 Penn State v 16 Florida 8 Minnesota v 9 UCLA 2 Stanford v 15 Purdue 7 Utah v 10 Oregon 3 Nebraska v 14 Colorado 6 USC v 11 Kentucky 4 Washington v 13 Kansas 5 Texas v 12 Baylor This is silly Now if you made a seeding by using top 25 w-l %, it would be more illuminating |
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Actually, scrambling for flight stuff now to see if I can get there. I definitely can see the High Point controversy...I was just pleased to see their name first as I knew then that LSU would be called eventually.
