FINALIZED 2017 Bracketology (11/26)

[bluepenquin]

Oct 21, 2017 1:48:44 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Also, do not count out Tennessee, Ole Miss, Alabama, and yes, even Tom Black's Georgia. The SEC is starting to get wild, and if anyone can catch UF/UK off guard, those tesms could make significant strides. All are within striking distance

Q. It would appear that MU is easily a tournament team with Crow and easily not a tournament team w/o her - what if MU finishes with an RPI ~ 55, but Crow  is healthy for the last 3 matches and MU beats Arkansas and Alabama at home?  How much will they look at the health of Crow?

[les]

This is a switch - If the brackets were chose tomorrow the pac, most likely, would have more teams in the tourney than the larger big 10 conference. Oregon State is sitting 1 spot ahead of Ohio State in rpi and has had some great wins lately.

[pavsec5row10]

Oct 21, 2017 10:51:33 GMT -5 les said:

This is a switch - If the brackets were chose tomorrow the pac, most likely, would have more teams in the tourney than the larger conference big 10. Oregon State is sitting 1 spot ahead of Ohio State in rpi and has had some great wins lately.

9 < 11 

Washington St losing to Cal puts them closer to the bubble than in.  

[les]

Oct 21, 2017 11:38:28 GMT -5 pavsec5row10 said:

Oct 21, 2017 10:51:33 GMT -5 les said:

This is a switch - If the brackets were chose tomorrow the pac, most likely, would have more teams in the tourney than the larger conference big 10. Oregon State is sitting 1 spot ahead of Ohio State in rpi and has had some great wins lately.

9 < 11 

Washington St losing to Cal puts them closer to the bubble than in.  

I wasn't counting on WSU making it.  I see Oregon State being the last pac school in and Ohio missing tourney.
8>7. or 75% > 50%

[les]

Maryland and Ohio State in the tourney? Please. Will need some big upsets to occur and avoid any let downs.
Ohio state is 11-8
Future loses Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska,Illinois,Purdue
Wins: Maryland,Iowa,Rugers,Indiana

Final Record 15-14

Maryland 14-7
Future loses MSU,Purdue,Minn,Wis,Ne,PSU,NE,OSU
Wins NW,Iowa,Indiana

Final Record 17-15

[trojansc]

Ohio St should be okay to get in, Iowa or Maryland should join them.

[gopherguy]

Oct 21, 2017 10:51:33 GMT -5 les said:

This is a switch - If the brackets were chose tomorrow the pac, most likely, would have more teams in the tourney than the larger big 10 conference. Oregon State is sitting 1 spot ahead of Ohio State in rpi and has had some great wins lately.

Hmmm... if the brackets were set up tomorrow, wouldn't they use the 10/16 RPI?

I count 10 B1G teams solidly in: Penn State (1), Minnesota (2), Nebraska (6), Wisconsin (8), Purdue (14), Michigan State (18), Illinois (19), Ohio State (29), Michigan (33), Maryland (38) and Iowa at 45 in bubble territory. Penn State and Minnesota would both likely be at home the first four rounds, and Nebraska, Wisconsin and Purdue would host the first two.

I get 9 PAC-12 teams -- Cal, Arizona and Arizona State will not make the field. The PAC-12 would not have any regional hosts.

I wouldn't make travel plans yet, though... I'm confident they're not going to set the field tomorrow.

[les]

Oct 21, 2017 13:08:41 GMT -5 gopherguy said:

Oct 21, 2017 10:51:33 GMT -5 les said:

This is a switch - If the brackets were chose tomorrow the pac, most likely, would have more teams in the tourney than the larger big 10 conference. Oregon State is sitting 1 spot ahead of Ohio State in rpi and has had some great wins lately.

Hmmm... if the brackets were set up tomorrow, wouldn't they use the 10/16 RPI?

I count 10 B1G teams solidly in: Penn State (1), Minnesota (2), Nebraska (6), Wisconsin (8), Purdue (14), Michigan State (18), Illinois (19), Ohio State (29), Michigan (33), Maryland (38) and Iowa at 45 in bubble territory. Penn State and Minnesota would both likely be at home the first four rounds, and Nebraska, Wisconsin and Purdue would host the first two.

I get 9 PAC-12 teams -- Cal, Arizona and Arizona State will not make the field. The PAC-12 would not have any regional hosts.

I wouldn't make travel plans yet, though... I'm confident they're not going to set the field tomorrow.

Take the fun out of speculation why don't you.  gee wiz party pooper, isn't speculation the whole point of bracketology?

[pavsec5row10]

Oct 21, 2017 13:06:06 GMT -5 les said:

Maryland and Ohio State in the tourney? Please. Will need some big upsets to occur and avoid any let downs.
Ohio state is 11-8
Future loses Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska,Illinois,Purdue
Wins: Maryland,Iowa,Rugers,Indiana

Final Record 15-14

Maryland 14-7
Future loses MSU,Purdue,Minn,Wis,Ne,PSU,NE,OSU
Wins NW,Iowa,Indiana

Final Record 17-15

Key words being "chose tomorrow".  The cut line is generally considered to be at 45 RPI, which more B1G teams are currently above. 

[les]

Oct 21, 2017 13:08:08 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Ohio St should be okay to get in, Iowa or Maryland should join them.

Seriously? I doubt a near 500 team with no significant wins will make it.  OSU needs 1-2 signature wins before they are going any where.  Does an 0-9 team go to a major bowl game just because they played and lost to the #1 team 9 times?

[trojansc]

Oct 21, 2017 13:14:50 GMT -5 les said:

Oct 21, 2017 13:08:08 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Ohio St should be okay to get in, Iowa or Maryland should join them.

Seriously? I doubt a near 500 team with no significant wins will make it.  OSU needs 1-2 signature wins before they are going any where.  Does an 0-9 team go to a major bowl game just because they played and lost to the #1 team 9 times?

Ohio State beat Purdue and Maryland. 1 top 25 and 2 top 50 wins. OSU will pick up 2 more top 50 wins, and that should be enough (if Md remains top 50)

[les]

Oct 21, 2017 13:24:28 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Oct 21, 2017 13:14:50 GMT -5 les said:

Seriously? I doubt a near 500 team with no significant wins will make it.  OSU needs 1-2 signature wins before they are going any where.  Does an 0-9 team go to a major bowl game just because they played and lost to the #1 team 9 times?

Ohio State beat Purdue and Maryland. 1 top 25 and 2 top 50 wins. OSU will pick up 2 more top 50 wins, and that should be enough (if Md remains top 50)

Purdue's got the Creighton win but nothing in conference.  They could finish with 19+ wins and they will make the tourney.  So this win is a decent pickup for OSU.  But a win over Maryland?  I see Maryland going 17-15 for the year.  Not much to pin your hat on.  These 3 teams combine for 2 signature wins (Creighton and USC).  They need to get at least one big signature conference win otherwise weak records with average rpis won't cut it.

[trojansc]

Oct 21, 2017 13:42:13 GMT -5 les said:

Oct 21, 2017 13:24:28 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Ohio State beat Purdue and Maryland. 1 top 25 and 2 top 50 wins. OSU will pick up 2 more top 50 wins, and that should be enough (if Md remains top 50)

Purdue's got the Creighton win but nothing in conference.  They could finish with 19+ wins and they will make the tourney.  So this win is a decent pickup for OSU.  But a win over Maryland?  I see Maryland going 17-15 for the year.  Not much to pin your hat on.  These 3 teams combine for 2 signature wins (Creighton and USC).  They need to get at least one big signature conference win otherwise weak records with average rpis won't cut it.

I don't think you understand completely how this works. But the bubble is REALLY weak this year. OSU beating Maryland and Purdue is already a better resume than Hawaii.

[les]

Oct 21, 2017 13:56:54 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Oct 21, 2017 13:42:13 GMT -5 les said:

Purdue's got the Creighton win but nothing in conference.  They could finish with 19+ wins and they will make the tourney.  So this win is a decent pickup for OSU.  But a win over Maryland?  I see Maryland going 17-15 for the year.  Not much to pin your hat on.  These 3 teams combine for 2 signature wins (Creighton and USC).  They need to get at least one big signature conference win otherwise weak records with average rpis won't cut it.

I don't think you understand completely how this works. But the bubble is REALLY weak this year. OSU beating Maryland and Purdue is already a better resume than Hawaii.

I guess your right, bubble is real sad this year.  Maybe we should include DII this year.

[gopherguy]

Maryland's sweep of USC and qualifying RPI not enough to get them in?