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Post by trojansc on Oct 24, 2017 10:39:34 GMT -5
Check your BE update - Marquette lost to Butler and Villanova, not Xavier Correct. Not sure how Xavier slipped in - they are pretty irrelevant this year |
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Post by trollhunter on Oct 24, 2017 12:44:29 GMT -5
I think Cal Poly has wins over Dayton and High Point also, with one or both likely to be T50. Not really relevant as they are surely in NCAA tourney barring a meltdown, and unlikely to be compare well with other seeded teams. But it could matter if they stumble and don't get AQ or if they win out and are in seed discussion.
"Big West - Cal Poly (19-2) with their only losses coming to Oregon and Washington, has been the story of the Big West. They are looking to be a sure tournament team, but unlikely to be seeded. Their only signature win is Wichita State, with Hawaii (maybe) finishing top 50. If Cal Poly wins both matches this week, they are going to win the Big West auto bid."
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Post by dfw on Oct 24, 2017 13:30:39 GMT -5
Check your BE update - Marquette lost to Butler and Villanova, not Xavier Correct. Not sure how Xavier slipped in - they are pretty irrelevant this year Season ending injuries to key players killed their chances |
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Post by jayj79 on Oct 24, 2017 17:35:49 GMT -5
Valpo mid-season played without a setter and was having their libero set if she didn't take the pass in serve receive! While watching the Valpo @ UNI match, I couldn't figure out how Valpo could be a 10-10 team (at the time) against a not-that-challenging schedule, because they were playing really well, especially on defense. But if they were playing without a setter for much of the year, that would explain it. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the Crusaders upset Missouri State in one of their two upcoming matches against them, and/or make some noise in the conference tourney. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 24, 2017 18:11:24 GMT -5
I think Cal Poly has wins over Dayton and High Point also, with one or both likely to be T50. Not really relevant as they are surely in NCAA tourney barring a meltdown, and unlikely to be compare well with other seeded teams. But it could matter if they stumble and don't get AQ or if they win out and are in seed discussion. "Big West - Cal Poly (19-2) with their only losses coming to Oregon and Washington, has been the story of the Big West. They are looking to be a sure tournament team, but unlikely to be seeded. Their only signature win is Wichita State, with Hawaii (maybe) finishing top 50. If Cal Poly wins both matches this week, they are going to win the Big West auto bid." if they win out 0-2 vs. top 20 (Oregon & Washington...on the road) 3-0 vs. 20-50 (Wichita-neutral, Hawaii (x2) 5-0 vs. 51-100 (Santa Clara- neutral, North Dakota-neutral, High Point-neutral, Dayton-neutral, and UCIrvine (x2) given they will have played only 8 home matches all year, it will be interesting to see how they are handled if they get to 15 or 16 in RPI if they beat both Irvine & Hawaii this week - winning out becomes very realistic Creighton, BYU, Poly, Wichita .....2 or 3 of them could very well end up in the 14-18 range by season end |
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Post by trollhunter on Oct 24, 2017 18:32:36 GMT -5
I think Cal Poly has wins over Dayton and High Point also, with one or both likely to be T50. Not really relevant as they are surely in NCAA tourney barring a meltdown, and unlikely to be compare well with other seeded teams. But it could matter if they stumble and don't get AQ or if they win out and are in seed discussion. "Big West - Cal Poly (19-2) with their only losses coming to Oregon and Washington, has been the story of the Big West. They are looking to be a sure tournament team, but unlikely to be seeded. Their only signature win is Wichita State, with Hawaii (maybe) finishing top 50. If Cal Poly wins both matches this week, they are going to win the Big West auto bid." if they win out 0-2 vs. top 20 (Oregon & Washington...on the road) 3-0 vs. 20-50 (Wichita-neutral, Hawaii (x2) 5-0 vs. 51-100 (Santa Clara- neutral, North Dakota-neutral, High Point-neutral, Dayton-neutral, and UCIrvine (x2) given they will have played only 8 home matches all year, it will be interesting to see how they are handled if they get to 15 or 16 in RPI if they beat both Irvine & Hawaii this week - winning out becomes very realistic Creighton, BYU, Poly, Wichita .....2 or 3 of them could very well end up in the 14-18 range by season end Yes, this is why I pointed out the omission in analysis. This coming week will determine if CP needs to be considered for seeding or At-Large or unseeded AQ. Furthermore, High Point and Dayton are projected to be top 50 teams by end of season per RPI Futures. 43. Hawaii - Big West (19-8) - .5888, LW - 48, SOS - 65 44. Texas A&M - SEC (10-15) - .5882, LW - 32, SOS - 1 45. High Point - Big South (22-7) - .5877, LW - 52, SOS - 95 46. Washington State - Pac 12 (16-16) - .5874, LW - 40, SOS - 13 47. Miami-FL - ACC (19-7) - .5865, LW - 50, SOS - 77 48. Missouri - SEC (17-14) - .5863, LW - 42, SOS - 28 49. Dayton - Atlantic 10 (22-7) - .5861, LW - 49, SOS - 104 |
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Post by trojansc on Oct 25, 2017 11:29:15 GMT -5
Correct. Not sure how Xavier slipped in - they are pretty irrelevant this year Season ending injuries to key players killed their chances And Bessler's gone! I'm surprised they never made the NCAAs with her |
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Post by dfw on Oct 25, 2017 17:50:46 GMT -5
Season ending injuries to key players killed their chances And Bessler's gone! I'm surprised they never made the NCAAs with her They were one win away last year in the BE Championship, their best shot in years. They always seem to finish in the 50-70 RPI range, with 1 or 2 key RPI losses in pre-conf that could get them over the hump. Bessler was BE POY as a Junior, but I believe she got dinged up her senior year...and still made BE 1st team. |
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Post by trollhunter on Oct 26, 2017 14:14:15 GMT -5
The numbers don't match since the update:
There are 33 teams listed for 32 spots (and Maryland is listed IN, left off B1G list by name but would be 9th there)
(6) ACC - Louisville, North Carolina State, Florida State, Miami-FL, Notre Dame, North Carolina
(1) Big East - Marquette
(9) Big 10 - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan State, Illinois, Ohio
State, Michigan
(3) Big 12 - Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor
(1) MVC - Northern Iowa
(4) SEC - Florida, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas
(8) PAC-12 - Oregon, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Colorado, Oregon State, Washington State
(1) WCC - San Diego
Last 4 IN: North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Arkansas
First 4 OUT: Missouri, Iowa, Hawaii, Maryland
Next 4 OUT: Alabama, West Virginia, Tennessee, Ole Miss
^This is also assuming that Texas A&M is ineligible for the tournament
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 14:45:16 GMT -5
The numbers don't match since the update: There are 33 teams listed for 32 spots (and Maryland is listed IN, left off B1G list by name but would be 9th there) (6) ACC - Louisville, North Carolina State, Florida State, Miami-FL, Notre Dame, North Carolina (1) Big East - Marquette (9) Big 10 - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan State, Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan (3) Big 12 - Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor (1) MVC - Northern Iowa (4) SEC - Florida, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas (8) PAC-12 - Oregon, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Colorado, Oregon State, Washington State (1) WCC - San Diego Last 4 IN: North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Arkansas First 4 OUT: Missouri, Iowa, Hawaii, Maryland Next 4 OUT: Alabama, West Virginia, Tennessee, Ole Miss ^This is also assuming that Texas A&M is ineligible for the tournament Maryland listed as both last 4 in and first 4 out, so maybe that's where the discrepancy is coming from? Someone is supposed to be in the last 4 in that is accidentally placeholder-ed by Maryland? |
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Post by trojansc on Oct 26, 2017 17:21:52 GMT -5
The numbers don't match since the update: There are 33 teams listed for 32 spots (and Maryland is listed IN, left off B1G list by name but would be 9th there) (6) ACC - Louisville, North Carolina State, Florida State, Miami-FL, Notre Dame, North Carolina (1) Big East - Marquette (9) Big 10 - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan State, Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan (3) Big 12 - Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor (1) MVC - Northern Iowa (4) SEC - Florida, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas (8) PAC-12 - Oregon, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Colorado, Oregon State, Washington State (1) WCC - San Diego Last 4 IN: North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Arkansas First 4 OUT: Missouri, Iowa, Hawaii, Maryland Next 4 OUT: Alabama, West Virginia, Tennessee, Ole Miss ^This is also assuming that Texas A&M is ineligible for the tournament Maryland is out. Made a change but forgot to take them Off last 4 in. Was indecisive. Apologies |
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Post by trojansc on Oct 26, 2017 17:24:00 GMT -5
The numbers don't match since the update: There are 33 teams listed for 32 spots (and Maryland is listed IN, left off B1G list by name but would be 9th there) (6) ACC - Louisville, North Carolina State, Florida State, Miami-FL, Notre Dame, North Carolina (1) Big East - Marquette (9) Big 10 - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan State, Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan (3) Big 12 - Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor (1) MVC - Northern Iowa (4) SEC - Florida, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas (8) PAC-12 - Oregon, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Colorado, Oregon State, Washington State (1) WCC - San Diego Last 4 IN: North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Arkansas First 4 OUT: Missouri, Iowa, Hawaii, Maryland Next 4 OUT: Alabama, West Virginia, Tennessee, Ole Miss ^This is also assuming that Texas A&M is ineligible for the tournament Maryland listed as both last 4 in and first 4 out, so maybe that's where the discrepancy is coming from? Someone is supposed to be in the last 4 in that is accidentally placeholder-ed by Maryland? Auburn is one of last 4 in. Ya'll will get a better update next Monday, bear with me |
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Post by n00b on Oct 26, 2017 17:40:09 GMT -5
Valpo mid-season played without a setter and was having their libero set if she didn't take the pass in serve receive! While watching the Valpo @ UNI match, I couldn't figure out how Valpo could be a 10-10 team (at the time) against a not-that-challenging schedule, because they were playing really well, especially on defense. But if they were playing without a setter for much of the year, that would explain it. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the Crusaders upset Missouri State in one of their two upcoming matches against them, and/or make some noise in the conference tourney. That was last season. Valpo has had a freshman setter running a 5-1 in every match this year. stats.ncaa.org/player/index?game_sport_year_ctl_id=12622&stats_player_seq=1901580 |
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Post by beba on Oct 26, 2017 17:57:26 GMT -5
The numbers don't match since the update: There are 33 teams listed for 32 spots (and Maryland is listed IN, left off B1G list by name but would be 9th there) (6) ACC - Louisville, North Carolina State, Florida State, Miami-FL, Notre Dame, North Carolina (1) Big East - Marquette (9) Big 10 - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan State, Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan (3) Big 12 - Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor (1) MVC - Northern Iowa (4) SEC - Florida, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas (8) PAC-12 - Oregon, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Colorado, Oregon State, Washington State (1) WCC - San Diego Last 4 IN: North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Arkansas First 4 OUT: Missouri, Iowa, Hawaii, Maryland Next 4 OUT: Alabama, West Virginia, Tennessee, Ole Miss ^This is also assuming that Texas A&M is ineligible for the tournament Don't know about you, but I think Stanford has a chance of getting in... |
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Post by FreeBall on Oct 26, 2017 18:01:17 GMT -5
The numbers don't match since the update: There are 33 teams listed for 32 spots (and Maryland is listed IN, left off B1G list by name but would be 9th there) (6) ACC - Louisville, North Carolina State, Florida State, Miami-FL, Notre Dame, North Carolina (1) Big East - Marquette (9) Big 10 - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan State, Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan (3) Big 12 - Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor (1) MVC - Northern Iowa (4) SEC - Florida, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas (8) PAC-12 - Oregon, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Colorado, Oregon State, Washington State (1) WCC - San Diego Last 4 IN: North Carolina, Maryland, Washington State, Arkansas First 4 OUT: Missouri, Iowa, Hawaii, Maryland Next 4 OUT: Alabama, West Virginia, Tennessee, Ole Miss ^This is also assuming that Texas A&M is ineligible for the tournament Don't know about you, but I think Stanford has a chance of getting in... That's why he has them listed as the PAC 12 automatic qualifier in the first part of the updated post on page one of this thread. The part quoted in the post you responded to is the list of at-large bid teams from each of the listed conferences. |
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